Perhaps the Greatest Sermon by Mere Man
Another great sermon. The church is asleep! You will never again be the same after hearing this. Listen if you dare!
Paris Reidhead: Ten Shekels and a Shirt
MUST HEAR SERMON! Must listen to all 6 parts. You will never be the same!
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nfx1h2bl47w
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcG0KY_92u4&feature=related
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6vERc7-4XU&feature=related
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGzNn38y3pQ&feature=related
Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mKfoPyam34&feature=related
“Dear friends, there is only one reason for a sinner to repent. And that’s because Jesus Christ deserves the worship and the adoration and the love and the obediance of his heart. Not because he’ll go to heaven. If the only reason you repented dear friend was to keep out of hell, all you are is just a levite serving for ten sheckles and a shirt. That’s all. You’re trying to serve God because He’ll do you good. But a repentant heart is someone who has seen the enormity of the crime of playing God and denying the just and righteous God of the worship and obediance He deserves.”
Part 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHyOMtxcfbY&feature=related
WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF FALSE PROPHETS!
By Marsha West
August 30, 2008
NewsWithViews.com
The Holy Spirit is on the move. He’s working in the minds and mouths of the false prophets. BAM! They’ve fallen and they can’t get up.
On June 23rd God moved a mountain — figuratively speaking — and the Charismatic church has been in chaos ever since. That day several of the New Apostolic Reformation leaders met in Lakeland, Florida for Todd Bentley’s “apostolic alignment commissioning service.” What happened was mind-blowing. I’m not talking about miraculous signs and wonders. There was no gold dust, no oil soaked hands, no angels with shimmering clothes and bright blue eyes hovering on stage. There was none of that — but there was a whole lot of shakin’ goin’ on!
Such notables as C. Peter Wagner, leader of the International Coalition of Apostles, his wife, Doris, Ché Ahn, John Arnott, Bill Johnson, Rick Joyner and several others came to the 10,000-seat tent to support what Todd Bentley and Fresh Fire were doing and to commission him as an evangelist. There was only one problem. The leaders failed to put Bentley through a proper vetting process to find out if he was deserving of their high honor. Turns out he wasn’t. Now they have egg on their collective faces and everyone knows it.
As a result, many in the Charismatic church are furious with them — but it’s too late. The damage is already done and cannot be undone. What’s worse, thousands of people believed there was a “revival” going on and traveled from all over the globe to be a part of it. Some went hoping to be healed. They weren’t. Now they realize they were duped and have fallen into despair. People are wondering if they are even saved! (For those who doubt their salvation, remember that anyone who comes to faith in the real Jesus Christ is saved.)
This article is not about false prophet Todd Bentley; it’s about the esteemed leaders and role models who helped create the Lakeland disaster.
Before I proceed, let’s unpack the “latter rain” movement. Without getting too far afield, New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) movement holds that God is restoring the lost offices of church governance, namely the offices of Prophet and Apostle. The founder of the movement is C. Peter Wagner. (More on Wagner in a moment.) The Prophets and Apostles are said to be given:
“…power and authority by God to lead by serving, as described in the biblical letter of the apostle Paul to the Ephesians. As such, they believe in the 5-fold offices of the Church first popularized in Charismatic groups; of which the prophet and apostle has been absent from the Church for the last 2000 years, and are now being restored.” [1]
People in this movement believe that the Apostles and Prophets have authority over the Church. Even though they hold a high office, the “apostles” and “prophets” don’t see eye to eye on everything. It has now come to light that some of the “apostles” were concerned about the possible dangers of commissioning Todd Bentley and warned other “apostles” but they were rebuffed – and they’re not taking it lying down. They wrote letters to apologize for the bad judgment of those who disagreed with them, thus bringing outsiders into the squabble. The letters are posted on their websites for the entire world to read.
Returning to the Lakeland disaster, according to The Voice Magazine:
“Discerning Christians recognized the tell tale signs of a disaster in the making at the Lakeland Revival. We’ve seen these sorts of tragedies occur time and time again in the Body of Christ over the decades. We all hoped to see a different outcome here, but the fruit of Bentley’s personal life reveals he was not ready for the level of public ministry he received and that he should never have been commissioned in an internationally televised ‘apostolic alignment commissioning service.’ Stepping down is an appropriate move in the right direction. Our concern is not only for the Bentleys, but the thousands of people around the world who are questioning everything they saw on God TV from the meetings at the Lakeland Revival. A lot of healing is going to be needed in the days ahead and many questions answered.” [2]
We are already receiving answers to our questions. Charismatic pastor Dutch Sheets said the following in his official statement on Lakeland, which he deems an apology: (All Dutch Sheets’ quotes are from his apology [3])
“But looking past some of the immediate and positive results, I, like many, also looked ahead to the possible fruit from questionable doctrine and experiences, exaggeration and hype, youthful pride, character issues and the frightening potential of a 32 year ‘young’ man leading a movement that could shape the future of the Church.
“These things were frightening, very frightening, to others and me. When something has the potential of setting precedent, birthing a movement and being reproduced as a prototype, we are no longer simply endorsing good brothers, good intentions and miracles.
“Doctrine and foundations will be built on these events. Teachings and paradigms for future ministries will be formed – in short, the next generation of the church and the move of God in the earth could be greatly impacted. This is why I stopped short of endorsing everything at Lakeland.”
Dutch also stopped short of expressing his concerns to the Body of Christ, even though he claims he had a “check” in his spirit. He decided to ignore “…the uneasiness, the sickening feeling deep in my spirit telling me something else was wrong – terribly wrong – in this situation.”
Many Charismatic leaders felt something was terribly wrong at Lakeland as well, but they were not candid about their concerns. Sheets now comes forward and says he knew something was terribly wrong, yet he tried to push Bentley’s “showmanship” out of his mind:
“…the ‘bams,’ the head butts and kneeing, along with certain experiences and doctrines, all in order to embrace the good. Like many of my friends I tried to be – and believe I was – gracious, accepting, ready to think ‘out of the box’, etc. But try as I may, the uneasiness in my spirit just wouldn’t leave.”
It seems it was more important for Rev. Sheets to “think out of the Box” than to warn gullible sheep who were flocking to the “revival.” Now that the cat is out of the bag, he owns up to the fact that “mistakes were made” (which is the understatement of the year) and says there is plenty of blame to go around in the Charismatic church. Boy, I’ll say.
Sheets confesses:
“Some of my closest friends endorsed and participated in the Lakeland meetings. … Should they have been more discerning and have listened to the warnings they received? Obviously. Should those who ‘aligned’ Todd with spiritual fathers (which was a good thing and positioned him to receive help if he chooses to accept it) have realized to do so publicly was a mistake and could be interpreted by those watching in no other way than as a complete endorsement? Yes, they should have, especially when the event became a commissioning ceremony, complete with decrees and prophecies of going to higher levels, predictions of Todd’s increasing world-wide influence and leading a world-wide revival, emphatic and prolific endorsements of his character, etc. How could those watching believe the evening was anything but an aligning, endorsing and commissioning ceremony? It was. It really doesn’t matter who laid their hands on Todd – all share responsibility. This was unwise at best, naïve at least and at its worst, foolish.”
Please. The commissioning ceremony was anything but “naïve.” To me it looks as if their motives were self-serving, that the “apostles” wanted to be in the limelight and what better way than to appear on God TV and YouTube. Don’t tell me they weren’t thrilled that millions of people were watching them anoint Todd Bentley as he lay quivering like a bowl of Jell-O at their feet.
“The shot heard round the world” is a well-known phrase that represents the start of the American Revolution. The voices of the false prophets who pretended to speak for God have been heard round the world, thanks to the ubiquitous video camera. It may not start a revolution. But a battle is brewing among Charismatics and Pentecostals.
I’ve gotten off point.
Going back to Dutch, he complains that the leaders involved realized there was a problem:
“Those of us connected to them relationally, ministerially, and as movements – some even in alignment with them apostolically and as sons and daughters – would feel minimalized, if not betrayed, by the fact that they were in essence taking us onto the stage with them? Yes. These feelings were inevitable, especially when we had such uneasiness and asked them not to.”
Harsh words. But he was their equal – and they ignored his warning.
More…
“Should there be an acknowledgment of these mistakes to the body of Christ for the sake of accountability and in order to rebuild trust? I believe so, and remain hopeful this will happen.”
If these men and women are truly God’s people, it will happen. (They should also acknowledge that the Apostolic movement disregards the fundamental tenets of the Christian faith. In other words, it is outside the parameters of orthodoxy.)
As I mentioned earlier, Bill Johnson is one of the “apostles” who participated in the commissioning ceremony, hence he contributed to the Lakeland disaster. Bill pastors Bethel Church and is the founder of the Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry in Redding, California. Both his statement and sermon on Todd Bentley have been posted on his website. Here’s his reason for going to Lakeland: (All Bill Johnson’s quotes are from his statement [4])
“I went to Lakeland because of his enemies. The relentless criticism and opposition, coupled with the grueling and sometimes unwise schedule, were bound to take their toll on this young man—emotionally, mentally, physically, and spiritually. It happened two years ago, and it could happen again. It was my intention to bring a deflection into the mix so that he wouldn’t take all the heat by himself. Little did I realize it was too late. He was at the place of burnout again, abandoning his marriage and pulling out of all public ministry.”
Poor Todd. His grueling schedule took a toll on him. He became so spiritually and emotionally drained that he found solace in the arms of another woman. It was not the first time this has happened, by the way, which is what Bill meant by “it happened two years ago.” Nonetheless, he stood by Todd, even counseled the Bentleys through all the turmoil. Which begs the question: Why didn’t he pass what he knew about Todd’s private life on the other “apostles” and “prophets”? In John Arnott’s statement he says he wishes he had known Todd was struggling in his marriage but he wasn’t told. Peter Wagner wasn’t told either. Yet Bill indicates they all knew about Todd’s issues: (My remarks in brackets.)
“And it was thought to all of us involved that the healing had taken place when in fact there were areas [of sin] that just weren’t dealt with. He just drug it into this great outpouring [that turned out to be not so great because they ignored his sin].”
I asked this question of Fresh Fire Ministries in my recent article, Todd Bentley Separates From Wife and Lakeland: “What did they know and when did they know it?” Now I’ll ask the same question of the “apostles” who commissioned Bentley: What did they know and when did they know it?
Johnson calls those who exposed Todd Bentley as a false prophet “sharks.” He also says:
“I’ll never blame the opponents [sharks] of this outpouring for Todd’s choices [sin]. However, it had a greater effect on the outcome than any of his critics will likely own up to in this lifetime. History proves this.”
So Bentley’s opponents drove him into an “unhealthy relationship” with a woman on his staff? But how can that be when so-called sharks weren’t swimming around Todd Bentley two years ago? He wasn’t that popular until April 2008 when he showed up in Lakeland. (Watch Johnson’s sermon video here [5] Note: His “shark” remark is 7 minutes into his speech.)
“Apostle” Bill Johnson was one of the leaders who “prophesied” over Todd Bentley during the commissioning. Here’s what he said:
“When David wanted Uriah killed, he sent him into battle and then withdrew from him. As a company of people, we refuse to do that. Many revivals through history have been cut short of their intention, God’s destiny and intention over individuals, because of jealousies and fears that get stirred-up in the people of God, and we refuse to do that. We shape the coarse of history by partnering with you, giving honor where it’s due. You welcome the glory as well as anybody I’ve ever seen in my life. I long to learn from you=2 0in that. And I bless you and I pray with the rest of these, that the measure of glory would increase; that Moses would no longer be considered the high-water mark, with the glory shown from his face, but instead the revelation of the goodness of God would change the face of the church, and He would use your voice; He would use your grace, your anointing to alter the face of the church before this world; that the goodness of the Lord will be seen once again. I pray this over you in Jesus’ name.”[6]
Jealousies and fears, huh? I find this disturbing on so many levels. Where to begin… First of all, Bill knew better than anyone that Todd Bentley had deep character flaws. Secondly, he was aware of concerns over: doctrinal error… unverifiable stories… the angel “Emma-O,” the money angel “Winds of Change” and other alleged angelic visitations (nowhere in Scripture does it say that we should elevate angels, nor did the apostles point us to angels, our focus is to be on Jesus Christ alone)… exaggerated healings… unsubstantiated claims that people were raised from the dead…bizarre and dangerous “healing” practices (assaulting the sick with leg drops, high kicks, head punches, etc.)… excessive drinking. Thirdly, Todd had been unfaithful to his wife and there was a rumor going around that he was at it again! This is the man the “apostles” and “prophets” hoped to “partner with…to shape the course of history?” It’s the sort of insanity that goes on in politics — but not in the Church of Jesus Christ!
May the Lord restore Todd Bentley and heal him.
Returning to Dutch Sheets’ apology:
“With such strong statements of disagreement, what is the affirmation toward my friends who led, participated in or endorsed this ceremony (and the meetings in general)? Simply stated, I know their hearts. It is not a contradiction of my criticisms toward some of their actions to, at the same time, defend and endorse their hearts and character. It is completely appropriate – when true – to defend a person’s heart and integrity while disagreeing with their actions.”
He knows their hearts? The Bible says, “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” (Jer 17:9)
Furthermore, Sheets’ states that:
“I think the blunder of that night was huge and very damaging to the body of Christ, but I also realize that in their hearts, those involved honestly felt they were doing the right things. Again, while not defending the action taken, I would defend the character and integrity of Peter and Doris Wagner as vigorously as anyone I know, and do so with absolute confidence. There are no two people, and I mean that literally, who embody the qualities of humility, integrity, holiness (no compromise!), sacrifice, unselfish kingdom-thinking, the tireless giving of themselves to Christ’s cause and the body of Christ -and do I need to add risk-taking? – as much as Peter and Doris Wagner. It remains my great honor to be associated with them and call them a spiritual father and mother. And again, while not minimizing or ‘sweeping under the rug’ any wrong decisions, I remain steadfast in my belief that similar affirmations could be made of others involved – either directly or indirectly – in the ceremony. And some of them still see their endorsing of Lakeland as an endorsement of revival generally, not of Todd personally.”
Spiritual Father Peter Wagner brought the commissioning ceremony to the wide screen and used his “apostolic authority” to endorse Todd Bentley, a man he claims he never met. Now Wagner is back peddling:
“I could easily see that Todd needs deep inner healing and professional-level deliverance he has not yet had the opportunity to receive. One of our critics said that we got it backwards and should have taken him into a back room and ministered to him before the ceremony. We had the luxury of a few minutes with Todd before the evening meeting. We had never met the man before. Was I to say ‘Hey, Todd, you’re a mess and need help in the next five minutes?’”
So instead of taking the “mess” into a back room, he commissioned him as an evangelist?
Here is what Peter Wagner said to Todd Bentley when he stepped onto the stage: (All “prophecies” are from the VodPod video of Todd Bentley’s commissioning [7])
“This commissioning represents a powerful spiritual transaction taking place in the invisible world. With this in mind, I take the apostolic authority that God has given me and I decree to Todd Bentley:
Your power will increase.
Your authority will increase.
Your favor will increase.
Your influence will increase.
Your revelation will increase.
I also decree that:
A new supernatural strength will flow through this ministry.
A new life force will penetrate this move of God.
Government will be established to set things in their proper order.
God will pour out a higher level of discernment to distinguish truth from error.
New relationships will surface to open the gates to the future.”[7]
Wagner admits that he said these words to a man who needs deep inner healing. And by the way, those in the commissioning group hold that “professional-level deliverance” means deliverance from demons!
Here are other “prophecies” uttered by those involved in the commissioning:
John Arnott:
“We bless you today, Todd Bentley. You’re a friend. You’re a man of God. You’re a man of prayer. You’re a man of the spirit. You love the anointing. And I would say that it’s not just the Lakeland revival, but the whole world that goes into revival. And you’re leading an amazing charge. And, multitudes are getting in behind you and saying, ‘Come on. I’m gonna go with you.’ And so we bless all of that. Thank you, Holy Spirit, for raising up this young man, to lead such a mighty charge around the world, and to partner with God TV in all that has happened here in the last, uh, several months now, three months almost. We bless it in the name of Jesus, and we stand with you, and we encourage you, and we honor you.”
We honor you? Does John Arnott now regret his prophecy over Bentley? Not at all. (Read his statement here
Che Ahn:
“Recognizing that God has chosen you and appointed you to bear much and lasting fruit in this Lakeland revival, and revival around the world. Recognizing that He has called you as an Ephesians 4 evangelist and a revivalist moving in signs and wonders. Knowing that you have walked in a manner worthy of the Lord, pleasing Jesus in every way, bearing fruit in every good work, and growing in the intimacy and knowledge of God, we as your brothers and your friends, who have a deep love for you, Shonnah, your whole family, we just esteem you. We are here to stand with you, support you. And we are here to commission you in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit–in the power of His name–with special oil from Chuck Pierce. It’s called ‘Revival Oil.’ Chuck could not make it, so he sent this Fed-Ex. Special oil for you. He’s in Africa. And so we anoint you and commission you in Jesus’ name.”
Special “Revival oil”? Oh brother. What Todd needs is truth serum! I watched the “commissioning” on YouTube and got a “check” in my spirit…. because I knew from all the research I’ve done on Todd Bentley that these men and women were out of touch with reality. I tested the spirits by the Word of God, and low and behold, what these so-called apostles and prophets prophesied over Bentley was not from God! And if what they prophesied does not come to pass, God himself labels them false prophets, and he will judge them!
Dr. Clarice Fluitt:
“Hallelujah! For the word of the Lord would say, Behold the vanguard. Behold the tugboat that is cutting through the ice of religious traditions–the cruel, hard things. The understanding of the mind of men will now bow to the reality of the revelation of the finished work of Calvary. Behold, sayeth God, you have been equipped with cutting power. You have been equipped to go through those traditions of the mind of man. Yea, sayeth God, and you are pulling the church into the realm of glory. Behind you is a great ship that is laden with healing and deliverance and prosperity. This is the word to you, oh man of God- arise, kill, and eat. No longer; no longer; no longer will men call unclean what I have called clean.”
Apparently, when they “prophesy” in King James English they’re hoping to convince those listening to them that they are actually speaking for Almighty God. (Try using this tactic on your kids and you’ll see amazing results.)
What really threw me off in Fluitt’s “prophetic utterance” was her use of the modern term “tugboat” instead of “ship” or “sailing vessel.” That aside, did Todd Bentley pull the church into the realm of glory as the pretend prophetess said he would? Well, not exactly. In fact, he tried to pull the church into the realm of the occult – and he would have succeeded if the “demon of lust” hadn’t gotten him off track.
Joshua Fowler:
“Todd, the Lord has made you to be a detonator. I see cables going around the world to different nations. I see Great Britain being set ablaze by the power of God. I see even as you go into places that God says you’ll go even with the glory even like William Branham, and the Lord says you’ll carry a portal anointing. And whatever city you go over, there will be a portal! ‘There’ll be a portal that will be opened up,’ sayeth the Lord! The Lord says you’ll detonate, and BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! There’ll be a release of glory through the nations, says the Spirit of the Lord!”
Another “prophet” who believes he speaks for God. Yet he cites William Branham, a “Latter Rain” false prophet who denied the doctrine of Trinity. He held to a variation of a second century heresy taught by Sabellius know as Modalistic Monarchianism or Patripassianism. And yet Fowler–and Bentley—idolize the man. (Bentley acknowledged Branham as the greatest healing evangelist who ever lived! Read about Branham here [9]) The false prophet proclaimed himself an angel of Revelation 3:14 and 10:7. He prophesied:
“…by1977 all denominations would be consumed by the World Council of Churches under the control of the Roman Catholics, that the Rapture would take place, and that the world would be destroyed. He died in 1965, but many of his followers expected him to be resurrected, some believing him to be God, others believing him to be virgin-born.
Branham’s influence has continued in many churches where his prophecies are considered to be divinely inspired. His teaching on the power of the spoken word has been a characteristic of later revivalists.”[10]
Instead of Fowler’s promised “release of glory,” God released (BOOM! BOOM! BOOM!) many of the people who were under the spell of the false teachers.
Isaiah 44:24, 25: “Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself; That frustrateth the tokens of the liars, and maketh diviners mad; that turneth wise men backward, and maketh their knowledge foolish.”
Listen to what Gregory Koukl gleaned from 2 Timothy:
“In Paul’s final warning to the church, he does not counsel them to face the challenges of the future by embracing new movements of the Spirit. Instead, he tells them to look backwards, to continue in and guard what has already been revealed.
“This is Paul’s message throughout his entire letter. ‘Retain the standard of sound words which you have heard from me’ (1:13). ‘Guard…the treasure which has been entrusted to you’ (1:14). ‘And the things which you have heard from me…these entrust to faithful men, who will be able to teach others also’ (2:2).
“Paul warns of a time of moral chaos falling on the world and theological chaos falling on the church. The antidote for both is the same: Steady at the helm. Guard what has already been entrusted to you. Continue in the things which you have already learned.
“Everything we need to be fruitful and productive, to be trained in righteousness, to be adequately equipped for every good work, has already been revealed. For Paul, all the old stuff was all the right stuff.
“New movement of the Spirit? Maybe. And maybe not. I don’t have to decide. Instead, I’m taking the safe route by heeding Paul’s advice and focusing on the old movement of the Spirit. And so should you.”[11]
Some good has come out of the “Lakeland Outpouring.” It brought to light the highly unorthodox beliefs of the NAR. Those who are a part of this movement should commit 2 Timothy to memory. Another good thing that came out of it is that the Charismatic church leaders who participated in Todd Bentley’s coronation ceremony have been exposed as false prophets and fools.
The chickens have come home to roost.
Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart. — Jer 14:14
Vision of Joel Osteen
August 31 2008
I awoke with heavy heart and “saw” Joel Osteen. His face was pasty white. His eyes were blinking and his head bobbing left to right with that smile. His movements were like that of a puppet. But I could not see the strings. It jarred me. (As I write this I believe God is speaking to me, “There is life in the blood.”) Joels’ face being pasty white, with no blood. The church has become anemic with the bloodless messages being preached. She is weak when she refuses the Blood of the Lamb.
As I “saw” this I felt sad for Joel. Unusual for me to feel anything but contempt for a false teacher. This too jarred me.
I SAW the false movement and how it does not offend anyone with the truth of the Cross. How the masses of deceived people have heaped up teachers among themselves as the Word says will happen in the latter days. How the times are being prepared that NO ONE will be allowed to teach or preach anything that does not “feel good.” The Cross will not be allowed to be preached.
Joel Osteen is a puppet and a front runner to this cause. Does he know? I don’t know. I don’t believe he does. But yet, I do not get a go ahead on that because God also showed me times are perilous and to be cautious on trusting anyone. That is for all the Bereans.
The Word came to me, “Let no man deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed…” This jarred me.
I took this to mean the falling away will produce the “man of sin.” He will come out of the “falling away.” It will be someone who calls himself a chrisitan. It will look better than Joel Osteen. And there will be no blood, no cross.
America is the front runner of NOT preaching the true gospel. The preachers have compromised greatly for their own wealth and gain. God will judge.
I believe the man of sin is on the earth. I may or may not live to see him revealed. But the generation after me, will, I believe.
A greater delusion than Tod Bentley comes. God is speaking this to me very much the past few weeks. A greater delusion comes.
My heart is heavy. There are no more words for what I sense inside myself.
The Occultic Mindset of Spiritual Warfare
By Keith
http://signofjonah.wordpress.com/2007/04/13/the-occultic-mindset-of-spiritual-warfare/
Paul and Drew have both graciously shared a part of their spiritual journey with us. For myself, the area of the fringe that I became most involved with was spiritual warfare. For a season in my ministry I became deeply immersed in this teaching. I declared things in the heavenlies, attempted to discern the demons over my city, drove around my city claiming it for Jesus, anointed the chairs in our sanctuary on a regular basis, and bound Satan daily. I would be lying if I said that there wasn’t a part of me that really got in to this whole experience. I felt very important and very powerful. Even today, when discussing some of the things that I used to do, I have a strong feeling of power rise up in my body. It was very exciting. Until one day a very simple question refused to let go of me. “When did anyone in the Bible do this?”
That was the question that started me on an investigation of this teaching. Today I am confident that not only is this teaching not Biblical, it is actually occultic in nature. I don’t make that statement lightly. I have studied and written on the subjects of the New Age, Wicca and even tribal religion. The modern teaching on spiritual warfare has more in common with these practices than anything that can be found in the pages of the New Testament (that book that is supposed to teach us, among other things, how the church is to operate).
I should hasten to say that this is not an exclusively Charismatic issue. Evangelical writers like Neal Anderson and Mark Bubeck (incidentally one of the nicest guys you could ever hope to talk to) have done much damage to the body of Christ in this area. Bubeck’s books even include prayers for the Holy Spirit to search your blood stream, gastro-intestinal organs and other body systems for demons. (i.e. the demon of cholitis and I am not joking.)
Space will only allow for a small number of examples but perhaps these will cause readers to dig even further to determine if these teachings are truly from the Lord.
1. Manipulation of spiritual forces: One of the underlying assumptions of the occultic worldview is that all of life is connected by a spiritual force. The practice of magick is based on attempts to manipulate this force in order for the practitioner to create their own reality. Modern Word Faith teachers and spiritual warfare teachers unknowlingly have bought into the same mindset. For Word Faith teachers the monistic force is faith itself. Kenneth Copeland has frequently stated that faith is a force that even God uses to accomplish His purposes. David Yonggi Cho has stated that this force can even be used by non-believers which is why Buddhist monks sometimes get results. Many of the modern prophets have stated the same thing about the New Age. For many in the spiritual warfare community the force is more personal in the form of angels, demons and the Holy Spirit. While this may seem more biblical the fact remains that much of their efforts are aimed at manipulating these beings to their own ends.
It is out of this foundational belief that many other ancillary beliefs and practices arise. For instance words are seen as extremely powerful. Once again, in Word Faith circles, words are the containers of the force. What I confess I possess. If I say that I am going bald I will get more baldness. But if I confess that I have a full head of hair then that is what I will receive. This is what leads teachers like Marylin Hickey to teach us to, “Say to your wallet. Why you big fat wallet. You’re so full of money.” Of course, apparently it doesn’t work for her because she has to keep asking for donations. Similarly prophetic teachers like Victoria Boyson and Mike Bickle teach that when we criticize someone we are releasing and activating Satanic activity upon them and if we bless them we are releasing Holy Spirit activity.
This authority that is supposedly in words then leads to the increasingly popular binding and loosing and warfare in the heavenlies teachings. In this practice Satan and his forces are actually addressed and commanded in prayer. Their “strongholds” over cities are pulled down. Their strategies are foiled. They must leave the region. Authority is claimed by the Church and the Spirit is loosed.
Now, I hate to spoil the party. But is this really what Jesus was teaching in Matt. 16 when He said that whatever you bind on earth is bound in heaven? The answer is a decided “no”. Before discussing what binding and loosing really means, the evidence that modern spiritual warfare teachers cannot be correct in what they are teaching is easy to detect from the New Testament. The fact is simply this, NOWHERE IN THE NEW TESTAMENT IS SATAN EVER ADDRESSED IN PRAYER. Prayer is made to God. We do not have one single example of anyone in the New Testament ever engaging in this type of prayer. The only time that Satan or a demon is ever addressed by a believer is when they are being cast out of an individual. The historical fact is that binding and loosing were rabbinical terms that the apostles would have been familiar with that had to do with forbidding and permitting certain practices and which speaks to the apostle’s authority in laying the foundation for the practices of the church.
Christians are spending too much time shouting at the devil. And can someone please tell me, “What is the statute of limitations on binding the devil?” He seems to continually get loose! How long does it take to bind a demon and clear the heavenlies? This stuff has been going on over KC for over twenty years and yet 2005 was one of the worst years in our history for murder.
2. Ritual Magick. In the occult worldview, rituals can be performed in the physical that have ramifications in the spiritual. So a pin stuck in a voodoo doll can cause spiritual forces to work against an individual that can result in bodily injury. One of the most disturbing segments of the film, “Jesus Camp” was to see a teacher hand a hammer to children and tell them to go to the front and smash cups labelled “abortion”, “homosexuality” etc. etc. and by commanding the heavenlies and smashing the cups things would be broken in the spirit realm. Much of the same thing can be seen in many of the practices of anointing. Rebecca Brown teaches people to anoint the doors and windows of their homes so that demons don’t have any points of access to their homes.
3. Power Centers. In the occultic mindset, certain grounds are sacred. They may be possessed by either good or evil spirits. Some of these power centers may be taboo to all but the most highly initiated or they may be places to gather for worship because the power is strong. We have seen over the last two decades a number of these power centers emerge and diminish, Toronto, Pensacola, Smithton, etc. etc. Additionally, the modern teaching of spiritual portals by prophets like John Paul Jackson, Kathie Walters, Paul Keith Davis and many more has more in common with the occult than the bible despite the way they butcher the story of Jacob’s Ladder to try and make it fit.
4. The Devil Made Me Do It. The occultic world is all about spirits. Animism is all about spirits. Spirits are responsible for everything. Spirits must be placated. While it is certainly true that the Western mind tends to ignore the spiritual dimension and tends almost toward Deism, the modern spiritual warfare teachings are certainly an over-correction. If it rains on a church picnic it is the devil’s fault. Every sin is evidence of a “stronghold” that must be pulled down. The problem is that this silver bullet approach to holiness keeps the individual from dealing with what is often the true source of the problem, a carnal, rebellious heart.
5. Shamanism. In the occult the shaman is the expert in the things of the spirit. He has visions of the spirit world and brings back information to the followers. Many of today’s so-called prophets are nothing more than shamen. People flock to them to hear of their visits to the otherworld and to act on the information that they bring back. This has opened a literal pandora’s box of new practices. What is particularly disturbing in the spiritual warfare scenario is that many of these practices were supposedly learned by interviewing demons!!!! Bubeck says that when we interview a demon we should ask, “Will this information stand as truth before the throne of God?” For some reason Bubeck believes that a demon can’t lie if you ask him in that way. But why would we ever seek to learn about the things of the Spirit from a liar and the father of lies?
Remember the question that I said started it all for me. “When did anyone in the Bible ever do this?” It’s a good question. It’s worth pondering the next time you are thinking about jumping into a new thing.
A Ritual Magician Speaks out on ‘Christian’ Magic
I would be the last to ever endorse magic or any of its’ practices. Yet, when even a ritual magician can see the hypocrisy within the church today, it warrants to be told. Kudos for this mans’ honesty. That is so much more than we are getting from the so-called “leaders” in the church. This man writes:
“I’m a ritual magician and not a Christian, so hopefully my comments won’t be unwelcome here.
I came across this article and wanted to add that from my perspective it is absolutely correct. “Spiritual warfare” has much more in common with my magical practices than it does with anything Biblical. The same is true of prayer that is intended to produce a specific material outcome, like the “green gospel” preachers who tell their followers to pray for lots of money so they can be rich. Last I checked, Jesus taught nothing of the sort.
In the context of Christian endtimes prophecy, it seems to me that this famous passage from Matthew could very well be referring to these same individuals.
On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many deeds of power in your name?’ Then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; go away from me, you evildoers.’” (Matthew 7: 22-23)
I’ve been amazed for a number of years at Christians who on the one hand condemn my practices but then turn around and do the same things themselves. It strikes me as pretty hypocritical, or at the very least ignorant.”
Comment by Ananael Qaa | September 16, 2008
He was only wrong about one thing: His comments will be very welcomed.
Preparing for the Next Delusion:The Letter To Laodicea Is A Warning To The TRUE Church Today
Article By: Sandy Simpson
Rev. 3:14-22 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Much has been made of this passage, using it to point out what is happening today in the apostate churches around the world. It is true that they believe they are rich in spiritual things when they are very poor. It can be applied in one sense to the Word of Faith movement. It is true that the “River” movement of Latter Rain teachings do think they are hot when actually they are cold.
But this letter to the end times church of Laodicea is actually talking to biblical Christians who are born again. The apostate movements of the Latter Rain, Third Wave, Toronto “Blessing”, Vineyard, Brownsville “Outpouring”, Word of Faith, New Apostolic Reformation, World Gathering on Indigenous People, Manifest Sons of God, Seeker Friendly, Church Growth, Emerging Church and many others have already had their lampstands removed (Rev. 2:5) because of their apostasy and have already been spit out of the Lord’s mouth (Rev. 3:16). We can know this because of what the Bible says about those who teach false doctrines (1 Tim. 6:3-5, 2 Tim. 4:3) and make false prophecies (1 John 4:1). These false churches, false movements and false brethren (Gal. 2:4) are already under the judgment of the warnings of the seven letters, as all but two of the original first century churches are today (only the two who Jesus did not warn still survive today). Therefore the letters to the churches apply to those churches who have not had their lampstands removed and been spit out of the mouth of God because of heresy and false prophesy. So the warning to the true biblical churches today remains. Why is this warning significant to us?
It is significant because, by in large, it is the true Church today that has allowed the movements mentioned above to infiltrate and take over the agenda for what is called “Christianity” today. Many in the Church have allowed heretics and false prophets to fill the airwaves with their apostasy and bring the truth into disrepute. Most have not drawn a clear line in the sand among believers and non-believers so that they would be able to understand that the leadership of those movements do NOT represent true biblical Christianity. Many have not contended for the Faith in order to preserve the truth. A large part of the true Church is lukewarm, just as Laodicea (in what is now Turkey) was addressed by John as part of the true Church. It has sat back and allowed heresy to take a front seat in the representing Christ and His Church while thinking that we are rich and “have need of nothing”. It has parked itself in expensive pews and sanctuaries and not responded to the all out attack on the core doctrines of the Faith and lying in the name of God that is taking place in thousands of churches and movements worldwide. When does the Bible say that those who use the name of the Lord yet teach heresy and make false prophecies without repentance are our brothers in the Lord?
Ga 2:4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:
Ro 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
Tit 3:10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;
Yet much of the true Church, by remaining silent, has not rejected the heresy of the movements above, but instead has allowed the influence of these false brethren into our churches. Many use their methods and materials. They read their books and sing their songs. Most pray with them using their agendas on the National Day of Prayer. Many watch them on TV saying they can eat the meat and spit out the bones, while actually being brought into bondage by their diaprax brainwashing. How is it that the true churches that remain believe they will be spared judgment for, in effect, being ashamed (Mark 8:38) to stand up for the name of Christ today? The fact is that many true churches and true believers have been taught not to judge by the very people who need to be judged!
Many true biblical churches and individual Christians today think they are fine because they say they are saved when, in fact, they are disobeying the commands of the Lord, thus proving they do not really love Him (John 14:24, John 15:10). They are actually “wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked”. What needs to happen is for true believers today to buy gold refined in the fire of standing for the truth (Eph. 6:14) and being persecuted for it (2 Tim. 3:12). This is EXACTLY what many discernment and apologetics ministries have done and have had to stand ridicule from both the apostate churches and from true believers. Those who are born again and wear the white clothes need to stop dirtying them by consorting with apostates. We can pray for them and try to pull them from the fire (Jude 1:23) when the Lord opens the door, but we must mark and avoid them (Rom. 16:17) until they come to the Faith or return to it. Otherwise how can the world know what true Christianity is all about? The true Church and true Christians need to ask for wisdom from God to open their blind eyes they have turned on what is happening to the cause of Christ before the world today. True believers need to REPENT of this dalliance with the world, the flesh, and those who serve the enemy (1 John 3:8) instead of the Gospel! We all have a lot to overcome and so we must, by faith (1 John 5:4), be overcomers.
I know this warning will seem like I am now taking potshots at everyone, including the true Church. But is not my intent nor has it been all along. I take this warning seriously myself, which is why my neck is on the line in front of the world and the churches on a daily basis. I need to be sure I tell it like it is. False teachers and false prophets who are spreading lies and denying core doctrines of the Faith are NOT my brothers in the Lord until they repent and turn to Jesus Christ. True believers are NOT to associate with heretics! We are to reject them (Tit. 3:10). Have these individuals and movements that are heretical been admonished? They HAVE! … many, many times in many different ways. The matter of public false teaching and false prophecy is not a matter that is properly addressed in private. Those who are doing these things need to repent of them publicly, just as their teachings and works need to be refuted publicly.
2 Co 10:5 We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ. (NIV)
1Ti 5:20 Those who sin are to be rebuked publicly, so that the others may take warning.
Preparing for the Next Delusion: Beware of Angels from the Dark side
By Marsha West
January 12, 2007
NewsWithViews.com
Angels fascinate people. For years we’ve been inundated with books, calendars, stationery, folklore, jewelry, knickknacks, lunch boxes, tattoos, even cherubic trash containers. People can’t get enough of angels. Stories of angelic encounters abound on the Internet. You ask, “Do you have a problem with angels?” Well, yes. And herein lies the problem. The messengers are not necessarily “angels of light” as people have been led to believe. Many angel enthusiasts have actually met heavenly visitors from the dark side. Even self-professed Christians are deceived. How can this be? Shouldn’t Christians be able to discern what’s real and what’s counterfeit? Not necessarily. Biblically illiterate Christians are easy to fool.
Angels of light, angels of darkness
Two elect holy angels are mentioned by name in the Bible: Michael and Gabriel. Also mentioned is the Angel of the Lord, the archangel (Michael), the Captain of the Host, messengers (Gabriel appeared to Mary), guardians. The fallen angels mentioned are the angel of the Abyss (Destroyer), and of course the most notorious angel of all: Lucifer. Scripture tells us very little about angels, except that they are sent to do God’s bidding. Most people know the story of the angel of the Lord who appeared to Mary and announced that she would conceive by the power of the Holy Spirit and give birth to the Savior. “The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel”—which means, “God with us” (Matthew 1:23).
What does the Bible say about angels?
Angels are personal spiritual beings, having aspects of intelligence, emotions, and will. This is true of both the good and evil angels. Angels possess intelligence (Matthew 8:29; 2 Corinthians 11:3; 1 Peter 1:12), show emotions (Luke 2:13; James 2:19; Revelation 12:17), and demonstrate that they have wills (Luke 8:28-31: 2 Timothy 2:26; Jude 6). Angels are spirit beings (Hebrews 1:14), with no true physical body. The fact that they do not have bodies does not affect their being personalities (any more than it does with God).[1]
Because angels are personal spiritual beings they cannot be in two places at once. That includes Satan. He’s powerful, but his powers are limited. It’s impossible for him to be in Washington D.C. and Iran at the same moment in time. Give this some serious thought the next time you take it upon yourself to command “Satan” to leave.
Scripture tells us that angels are created beings, thus they have not existed for all eternity. “For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together” (Col 1:16-17).
According to Hebrews 13:2 angels can take on the appearance of humans. “Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some people have entertained angels without knowing it.” They always appear as men. Daniel sees an angel with very strange features. “I looked up and there before me was a man dressed in linen, with a belt of the finest gold around his waist. His body was like chrysolite, his face like lightning, his eyes like flaming torches, his arms and legs like the gleam of burnished bronze, and his voice like the sound of a multitude” (Dan. 10:5-6). Surprising, Daniel did not keel over from heart failure.
God sends His angels to care for believers upon death. “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side” (Luke 16:22).
Does God need angels? In his best-selling book, Angels Among Us, Ron Rhodes gives this response, “God does not need angels! In saying this, my intention is not to minimize the importance of what the Bible teaches about angels. I, personally, am very thankful that God created angels. My point is simply that God is fully capable of accomplishing His ends without their assistance.”
This will not go over well with radical feminists, however angels are always of the male gender.
And, yes, angels have wings. The order of angel called Seraphs has as many as 6 wings. “Above him were seraphs, each with six wings: With two wings they covered their faces, with two they covered their feet, and with two they were flying. 3 And they were calling to one another: “Holy, holy, holy is the LORD Almighty; the whole earth is full of his glory” (Isaiah 6:1). However, most angels are not described with wings on their backs. Would angels really need wings to move through the cosmos? I mean, c’mon!
There is nothing in Scripture that tells us to pray to angels. Just the opposite is true. In Luke 11:1 Jesus tells us to pray directly to the Father. In Matthew 6:6 He said, “But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.”
Jesus Christ bridged the gap between God and humans. Hence there’s no need to approach God through angels or through any other means. We can come to God directly because of Christ.
Are there angels among us today? You bet there are!
It’s very cool that God sends His angels to minister to our every need, right? Wrong! Most of today’s angels are not from God. The way you can determine whether an angel is holy (from God) or unholy (from the pit of hell) is to look at what they support. First of all you must ask yourself; does my angel point me to Jesus Christ, or away from Him?
Secondly, does your angel support in any way the world of the occult? If the answer is yes, it’s from the dark side.
Well-known New Age angel guru Terry Lynn Taylor encourages the use of occult tools such as Angelic Messenger Cards that are said to guide people to accept contacting the dead (necromancy). In her book, “Creating With the Angels: An Angel-Guided Journey into Creativity,” we’re told about “dream work.” Taylor invites readers to play with the angels. “Dream time is spirit time and offers a great opportunity to play with the angels. . . .Allow the angels to help you interpret your dreams.” Now then, because necromancy falls into the category of sorcery, the angels she promotes are from the dark side.
Today’s angels also push other occult practices on naive individuals. (See below.) God’s holy angels would not, could not, promote something that He expressly forbids! Holy angels are incapable of going against God. Fallen angels continually go against God.
How do you contact an angel? John Randolph Price’s book “The Angels Within Us” takes readers into altered states of consciousness to establish contact with them. In the Bible there’s a name for an angel that possesses the unbeliever: demon. Angels, either holy or unholy, do not indwell believers. The Holy Spirit resides in Christians from the moment they give their lives to Christ. The Spirit never leaves. In John 14:16-17, Jesus said, “And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever—the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you…” Pretty powerful words.
Tools of the occult on eBay
Search ebay and you’ll find Angel Oracle Cards that, “provide messages and reminders of your ‘Guardian Angels’ steady and loving presence. Each day your Angels will give you the answers to your questions, set positive intentions, help you heal, and manifest what you desire.”
eBay also offers Earth Stones. “Have the names of the ARCH ANGELS on each one, in gold. There is much to learn about our Watchers of the Heavens & Earth. … Place the ARCH ANGEL stones on your Altar, Meditation area or bedside.”
Gullible people actually do this.
Purchase “The Little Book of Angel Wisdom” and you will be “filled with wonderful verse and insightful (sic) messages from our Angels.”
Books on angels
The books of spiritist Geoffrey Hodson are popular with the angel set. Hodson claims an angel calling itself Bethelda gave him material for several books, including the popular “The Brotherhood of Angels and Men and The Kingdom of the Gods.” In his book “Clairvoyant Investigations” Hodson writes, “I have myself confirmed that these super-physical domains contain innumerable nonphysical beings, such as angels and nature spirits. . .” What kind of angels are they? Examine what they teach and you’ll discover that they encourage occult practices such as automatic writing, dictation, or speaking, in order to get their messages published and in the hands of the public.
Meredith L. Young-Sowers admits, “For well over a decade, I’ve been taught by an angelic presence that describes himself/herself simply as Mentor, meaning “teacher.” According to Sowers, Mentor’s verbatim teachings are given in her books.
Rosemary Ellen Guiley, “has written more than 20 books on spirituality, visionary experience, personal growth and also the paranormal, including Dreamwork for the Soul, The Encyclopedia of Dreams and Breakthrough Intuition.” Here’s how Guiley describes encounter dreams with spirit beings:
“For many years, I have felt the presence of guiding beings in my life. . . .My initial intuitive sense was that these helping beings were “angels,” and that is what I have always called them.”
Guiley believes that angels facilitate her work in numerous ways:
“I am assisted and influenced by angels. I am grateful for their help, and I acknowledge them daily in my meditation. I sense a small group of angels who are around me all the time, connected to my personal and professional lives. They are joined by other angels who come and go depending on circumstances. . . .When I began work on Angels of Mercy the angels came out in force. It seemed I had a small army looking over my shoulder to weigh in with their various influences. . . .In addition to my writing, I lecture a great deal, and I feel the guiding presence of a “speaking angel”. . . .I sense his presence. He is a facilitator who helps me organize and deliver talks.”
The name of Guiley’s speaking angel is Plato. By her own admission the spirit being uses her voice to give his message while she’s in a semi-conscious state.
“As I began my talk, I felt a distinct shift in my consciousness, as though part of me were displaced to one side. In addition, I could feel the weight of an invisible presence on my shoulders, as though a being was perched there. . . .I talked for two hours without looking at a single note, and got rave comments from the audience. As time has gone on, I have been increasingly aware of this shift in consciousness when I deliver a talk. Occasionally, someone who is clairvoyant will come up to me afterward and ask me if I know I have an angel or a being standing off to one side of me. “Yes,” I say, “that’s my speaking angel!”
Most of the popular angel literature is from the angels themselves. Fallen angels literally overrun every occult practice known to man. Angelic forces are invoked in magic rituals and various magical systems and witchcraft. Those involved in angelology hold that angels are benevolent beings and are different from demons.
Benevolent angels do not entice people into sorcery.
Speaking of demons. Read the Bible and you’ll discover the principle goal of demonic spirits that imitate angels is to confuse people as to their modus operandi. If people can be convinced that the realm of the occult is “safe” they’ll be much more willing to experiment. But they’re not safe! A person who channels an angel (or a spirit guide) is possessed by a control spirit every bit as much as if they were a medium or a trans-channeller. The messages and phenomena found in angel channeling and in mediumism are essentially the same.
The Bible speaks very clearly of this deception in Second Thessalonians 2:9-12: “The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.”
Satan’s a fighter. His goal is to take you down with him. There’s still time to abandon ship! The price you’ll pay for trusting an angel is your soul.
Avenging angels
Judgment Day’s approaching. God’s angels will announce His impending judgments as well as execute them. “New Age angel enthusiasts who say that the typical message from an angels is, ‘Don’t be afraid, everything is fine. There is nothing but love’ are in gross error. Though angels are loving and do bring comfort to the people of God, they also bring messages of death, destruction, and judgment to those who reject Christ.”[2] Satan will go down in flames.
A final word of warning: Lettin’ the cat outta the bag is a whole lot easier than puttin’ it back in.
Footnotes:
1, What Does the Bible say about angels? Got Questions?
2, Angels Among Us, page 181, by Ron Rhodes
Recommended Resources:
1, Angels Among Us by Ron Rhodes by Ron Rhodes
2, What the Bible says about Angels by David Jeremiah, and [Read]
The Occult:
“Occult means “hidden.” It covers practices that are not approved of by God e.g., astrology (Isaiah 47:13), casting spells (Deut. 18:11), consulting with spirits (Deut. 18:11), magic (Gen. 41:8), sorcery (Exodus. 22:8), witchcraft (Deut. 18:10), and spiritism (Deut. 18:11). Occult practices such as Ouija boards, tarot cards, astrology charts, contacting the dead, s©ances, etc. are to be avoided by the Christian and Jews alike.” http://carm.org
Article taken from here: http://www.newswithviews.com/West/marsha32.htm
Bad Roots: AZUSA STREET-Birth of a Lie
The Azusa Street Revival, at the turn of the century, has been proclaimed the mother of revival here in America. Below is an article on the Azusa Street Revival at the turn of the century. I’m giving you some new things to think about. My aim is for us to test things together. I suggest that you too begin doing searches on your own. Together may we find the leaven that has ruined the whole loaf. For myself, I have come to the place where no past teachings or beliefs are sacred ground anymore. I want to rid myself of any and all false beliefs I have ever believed in.
In short… I WANT THE TRUTH!
By: K. B. Napier
Redeemedhippie: The author has made it clear he has no use for charismaticism. That is understandable. I do not competely endorse his views. He is very right in saying, “The days are short. There is no time for nice chit-chat. Pentecostalism (charismaticism) is growing rapidly.” Very right. Not that Pentecostalism in and of itself is wrong, but the hereies that have crept in and corrupted the church have grown rapidly the past few decades. The heresy of creating a Jesus in their image.
He continues, “Will we now stand against it and raise the banner of Jesus Christ? Or will we all stand by and allow charismatics to raise their own false standard, proclaiming themselves to be God’s people on this earth?” He is right about the false standard that has been raised. It is time we stood up and challenged those who have misrepresented the truth with their abominations. Too bad we did not do it years ago.
“You have the choice – to stand firm or to mix with error. Telling friends they are in gross error is a very hard thing to do. This is acknowledged. But what is being tested is not friendship – it is loyalty and faithfulness to the Lord, His word and Truth. It is always sad when those we thought were friends shun us because of a firm stand for the Lord. That is the way it has always been.”
How many times, have we charasmatic shunned those who did not agree with us? I know I have been guilty of it over the years. I did what I was taught. Accused those “less spiritual” than I of not being “as spiritual” because they did not speak in tongues or hoop and holler. Shame on me! The time has come for loyalty to Jesus above that of men.
(Acknowledgements for quotes are made to: ‘The Toronto Blessing and Slaying in the Spirit – the telling wonder’ by Nader Mikhaiel….an exceptional book written by a man of discernment)
Article gotten from here: http://www.scionofzion.com/azusa_street.htm
Heresy: The Shack; “Chrisitan” Book
Just for your information, no, I did not read the book. I have no desire to. I know arsenic is poisoness, therefore I would never buy it or use it. The last time I went into a “Christian” bookstore, I came out of it depressed. All the self-help manuals and the apostate gurus being thrown at us are enough to make me want to picket these places carrying a sign calling out, “REPENT!” Which I still may do at some point.
Whats Wrong With The Shack Book?
The Shack is full of false doctrine looked past by people who are emotionally swept out into the sea of deception. They look past the truth of God’s Word because they want a god of their own making, one who fails to punish for sin unrepented of.
The primary source of this bad doctrine is because the trinity of The Shack Book is not the Trinity of the Bible. Rather it is the goddess Kali.
This is the book for you if you believe in a Universal salvation without seeking forgiveness, if you want a god who loves without logic, and if you don’t know or don’t care about biblical truth and sound doctrine.
Taken from this site:
http://morebooksandthings.blogspot.com/2008/02/shack-is-heretical-book.html
If it Looks so Good, How Can it be Deceptive?
“Now the serpent was more subtle and crafty than any creature of the field which God had made” (Gen 3:1) (Amplified version).”But also (in those days) there arose false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among your-selves, who will subtly and stealthily introduce heretical doctrines..” ( 2 Pe 2:1).
“For certain men have crept in stealthily – gaining entrance secretly by a side door” (Jude 4).
How often do we hear the refrain – if it looks so “good” (“brings forth such “good fruit”), how can it be deception? Are we expecting deception to be obvious? Why then would the Bible describe it as “more subtle and crafty, stealthily” gaining entrance as by a side door? Barnes Commentary states in the analysis of 2 Pe 2:1 that
“…(false teachers) would not at first make an open avowal of their doctrines, but would, in fact, while their teachings seemed to be in accordance with truth, secretly maintain opinions which would sap the very foundations of religion. The Greek words used in the preceding verses means properly to lead in along with others. Nothing could better express the usual way in which error is introduced. It is by the side, or along with, other doctrines which are true; that is, while the mind is turned mainly to other subjects, and is off its guard, gently and silently to lay down some principle, which, being admitted, would lead to error. Those who preach error rarely do it openly.”
THEREFORE, WE SHOULD EXPECT DECEPTION TO LOOK “GOOD”!! According to the Bible, the easiest method of deception is for error to ride on the back of truth. We hear what is, indeed, truth being preached. We assume that everything, therefore, being preached is truth, that everything being done is Biblical, so we let down our guard…and error and deception can then enter “secretly by the side door.” Do we forget that it is a little bit of leaven that leavens the whole loaf?
Let’s carefully examine what the Bible says about things that look “good.” A few simple – yet startling – examples:
Gen 13:10 – What did God describe as looking “like the Garden of the Lord”? SODOM (where exceedingly great sinners lived, v.13)Ezek 28:12- Who did God say was “the full measure and pattern of exactness – full of wisdom and PERFECT IN BEAUTY”? SATAN
Mt 7: 15 – Who will come “dressed as sheep” on the outside, “but inside are devouring wolves”? False prophets…looking “good.”
Acts 20:29-30 also speaks of “ferocious wolves” that come from “inside”, from those thought to be in the flock of Christ.
Mt 23:12 – Who “looked beautiful on the outside”? The Pharisees who “inside are full of dead men’s bones and everything impure.”
2 Cor 11: 14,15 – Who will come as an “angel of light” and as “ministers of righteousness”? Satan and his servants.
Conclusion: deception looks “good” on the outside, but inside it is deadly.
It requires diligence to discern when Satan comes as an “angel of light”, bringing what looks like the “light” of new revelation on a holy subject: when he comes, not as a devil, but as “another Jesus”; not with out-and- out heresy, but with “another Gospel”; and when he does all this in a religious setting, as “another spirit” (2 Cor 11:4). Have we forgotten that Satan is a “religious” creature? Have we not realized that false gospels are not completely new gospels, rather they are true gospels with a few “minor” changes? Didn’t the Galatians believe the basic truths of Christianity? Yet, Paul said, not once but twice, that they were to be “accursed”(Gal 1:8-9) for receiving a “different gospel,” for making a few changes to the true gospel.
Perhaps, we need to look at some passages of Scripture in greater detail so that we may grow in discernment and avoid the deadly dangers of deception. Let’s start at the beginning…
Genesis 3 contains the foundational truths of discerning deception. The Garden of Eden was a perfect religious setting; and into this perfect religious setting came deception. The relationship between God and the man and woman was so close that He “walked in the garden in the cool of the day” with them. This was spiritual intimacy of the highest order. And therein was part of Satan’s subtle deception – he tempted the woman in the realm of that spiritual intimacy to become closer to God, to be more like Him (v.5). Let’s remember that deception came before the Fall, before sin corrupted her mind with the twisted knowledge of what good and evil were. Exactly because of the purity of her being, this deception had to come in a very “good” disguise – so it came disguised in a holy desire for her to be closer to the God she loved. Such a holy desire – but, in order for it to be fulfilled she had to disobey His one “small” warning: just take one bite of what looked “good” to her. Here was the first appearance of the “angel of light”, bringing new “light” in a “holy” way. And she did eat…and Adam did likewise. And they lost everything. The temptation looked “good”; it sounded “holy”; and it would allow them to grow “wise” – how could this be bad when it looked so good?
In their deception and sin, the man and woman did not even first realize there was any change in them: “After Eve had eaten and apparently suffered no ill effect, this constituted an additional argument why Adam need not hesitate to adopt the same course” (Barnes Commentary). After all, she hadn’t died as God said she would if she ate of the fruit, so it must be safe. But, “they eat, they expect marvelous results, they wait and there grows on them a sense of shame” (ibid). When we are first deceived, we may still seem to be holy – perhaps we may even think we are more holy – but in time a sense of shame will grow on us. We have partaken of that which God has forbidden in His Word: we have fallen for that which we think looks “good.”
In the Garden of Eden, wasn’t one of the things the Lord was saying was that He had already given the man and woman ALL they need? They did not need more than all the trees and fruits He had already provided for them. Today, isn’t He trying to tell us the same thing? He has given us salvation and the baptism of the Holy Spirit – there is no “more” described in the Bible. Then why is the cry across the land for “more, Lord, more”? Biblically, what “more” is there? Do we not already have all we need?
Then there is the parable of the wheat and the tares in Mt 13:24-30. Unger’s Bible Dictionary defines tares as:
a poisonous grass almost indistinguishable from wheat while the two are growing into blade, at the beginning. When they come into ear, they can be separated without difficulty.
At the beginning all the crop “looks good”, according to what the eye can see. But as time goes on the tares become visible. The wheat is sown first by the Lord. Then the enemy sows his tares as men sleep. Isn’t this another way of saying that first, the true gospel may be preached, but “alongside” of that tares are sown? (remember 2 Pe 2) The Matthew Henry Commentary states:
…when reason and conscience sleep, and people are off their guard then the enemy comes in…Note, when Satan is doing the greatest mischief, he studies most to conceal himself; for his design is in danger of being spoiled if he be seen in it; and therefore when he comes to sow tares, he transforms himself into an angel of light (2 Cor 11:13,14)…The tares appeared not until the blade sprung up and brought forth fruit,v.26. As the good seed, so the tares lie a great while under the soil, and at first springing up, it is hard to distinguish them…”
All revivals may look good: great enthusiasm and devotion may be displayed. But, religious enthusiasm in itself is not evidence of the truth. The Pharisees had great religious enthusiasm, so do Catholic mystics and Mormon missionaries. Yet, remember Mt 7: 21-23:
Not every one who says to Me, Lord, Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven. Many will say to Me on that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in YOUR NAME, and driven out demons in Your Name, and done many mighty miracles in YOUR NAME? And then I will say to them openly, Depart from Me, I never knew you.
Who were in danger: just a few? No, many. Were evil acts being performed? No, they were doing miracles, great signs and wonders, prophesying. Were they done in a demon’s name? No, in JESUS’ NAME! In His Holy Name. Yet, He said – depart from Me. How “good” it all looks and sounds – in our eyes. Not in His.
Moses was a true man of God, working true miracles. Yet, in the beginning, his miracles were duplicated by Pharaoh’s magicians (Ex 7:11-12, 22; 8:7). So that we do not forget how prone we always are to “signs-and- wonders” deceptions, 2 Ti 2: 5-9 makes references to these magicians, Jannes and Jambres by name. It warns against “silly” (v.6) people who are “forever inquiring and getting information, but are never able to arrive at a knowledge of the Truth”(v.7). Verse 9 promises that these counterfeits will eventually be exposed. But, in the meantime, they will continue performing signs and wonders, counterfeit signs and wonders.
Counterfeits, in the real world, are only successful in so far as they, as closely as possible, imitate the real. Only very close scrutiny will show that that $100 bill is not legal tender. In the real world, if a warning went forth that there were counterfeiters at large, wouldn’t we scrutinize our money with great diligence? Yet, there are “spiritual counterfeits” at large and so many are gullibly accepting what they teach at face value. There is so much more at stake – our spiritual lives hang in the balance.
The whole chapter of Deut 13 is a warning about deception, but perhaps the most alarming verses are 1-3:
If a prophet arises among you and gives you a sign or wonder and the sign or wonder he foretells to you COMES TO PASS, and if he says, Let us go after other gods, which you have not known, and let us serve them. You shall not listen to the words of that prophet; for the Lord your God is testing you to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your mind and heart and with your entire being.
Note: the man called himself a prophet of God. He came from among them, like the tares are among the wheat, like error comes alongside truth. And, incredibly, what he said CAME TO PASS! IT LOOKED GOOD!! Yet, God says not to listen to him; on the contrary, v.8 says that that prophet is to be put to death for talking rebellion.
The Lord says all this deception is sent as a test to know whether we love Him totally. Interestingly, the remedy for deception is for us to do our own “testing.” In 1 Th 5: 21 we are commanded by God to “prove all things until you can recognize what is good; to that hold fast.” The word prove in scripture is a metallurgist’s term. It is referred to in Jer 6: 27-30. An assayer or prover is to test ore closely because fool’s gold looks so much like real gold ( it “looks good.”) Once the assayer tests the ore and discovers it is gold, he then tests it further to see how pure that gold is – 10k, 12k, 24k, Interesting isn’t it: God tests us to see if we are gold and how pure gold we are, and we are to test all things to see if they are gold and how pure they are. In Acts 17: 11 the Bereans were commended as being “more noble” because they took the Scriptures so seriously that they even tested the teachings of Paul. Notice that they did not use the fluctuating criteria of emotions or experiences in their testing; they used the only one reliable, trustworthy, infallible standard – the Word of God. Isa 8:20 commands “Direct people to the teaching and the testimony; if their teachings are not in accord with this word, it is because there is no light in them.
Where is the purest gold found? in the City of God (Rev 21:21). We are only fit for this Golden City as we, too, are purified and immerse ourselves in pure teaching. In Jn 17:17 Jesus Himself said: “Sanctify them by the Truth. THY WORD is truth.” Not our emotions, not our experiences, not by how “good” it looks or sounds or feels…by THY WORD.
I will close this by two simple examples of testing popular teachings by the holy standard of the Bible:
- How many times have we heard that the end-times will be marked by revival? Yet, revival is NOT the sign of the end-times. DECEPTION is the sign of the end times. So says Jesus in Mt 24 in v. 4, 5, 11, 23, 24. So says Paul in 2 Th 2:3.
- How often have we been hearing lately about “miraculous signs and wonders”? The problem is that whenever signs and wonders are mentioned in the Bible in relation to the end times, they are called LYINGsigns and wonders! So says Jesus in Mt 24:24 and Paul in 2 Th 2: 9 ( see also 2 Pe 2). Jesus in fact warns strongly against signs and wonders in Mt 12:39 and 16:4 –”An evil and adulterous generation seeks a sign; but no sign shall be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.” Then why are so many today being applauded for the “signs and wonders” in their midst?
Modern Day Application
There is a movement occurring today that, sadly, illustrates the principle herein described: error comes in alongside truth. I am speaking of the “Pensacola Revival” at Brownsville Assembly of God Church. I have personally viewed video tapes of numerous Brownsville services and read countless articles from Biblical authorities on their observations regarding the “Pensacola Revival.” The Word that is preached may be holy. The burden for the lost and the heart’s desire for the flock may be real. Individuals’ lives may have changed for the better because of a sincere desire for God. BUT are the “impartations”, the “birthings”, the physical manifestations and emotional excesses truly of God? Are they not, instead, errors that have come alongside truth and are not those “little bits of leaven” in terrible danger of leavening the whole loaf?
We cannot test what we see and hear by our emotions or by experience: the only remedy for deception is the truth, the objective truth of God’s Word. We must discern what is light and what is darkness. We must test the origins of this revival, its teachings and its total conformity to Scripture. Only by testing can we know what is true and to be embraced and what is deception and to be avoided.
Our criteria for truth, therefore, is not if it looks, sounds or feels “good.” Partaking of the tree of the knowledge of GOOD and evil was our first sin – thinking we knew what was “good”. The remedy for that sin in the Garden of Eden was “Yes, God HATH said!” Today, the remedy is still the same – has God said in His Word that it is good. Let our prayer be that in Isa 11: 2-3:
“(That) the Spirit of the Lord shall rest upon ( us), the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the reverential and obedient fear of he Lord. And make us of quick understanding, and (let our) delight be in the reverential and obedient fear of the Lord. And (let us) NOT judge by the sight of (our eyes) neither decide by the hearing of (our) ears”…Nor by how “good” it looks or sounds or feels. Amen.” (Amplified Version).
Author: Barara Wilhelm – 11/97
Article taken from here: http://www.velocity.net/~edju/deception.htm
Preparing for the anti-christ
Preparing For The Time Of Antichrist
[The Original Report was entitled, "Disaster Plan For Antichrist"]
PrefaceThis Disaster Plan will hopefully encourage a much needed discussion about the possible soon coming of antichrist. The plan is the collective effort of a small group of believers who feel their anonymity will lead to a more focused consideration of the subject. Permission is granted to faithfully reproduce or publish the plan in its entirety or in part.
Disaster Plan for AntichristI. Definition: Antichrist can mean either “against Christ,” or “instead of Christ,” or perhaps combining the two, “one who, assuming the guise of Christ, opposes Christ” (Vine’s Dictionary, 1985, page 30).II. Premise: It is always best to prepare for the worst.III. Purpose: To prepare believers to expect, recognize, resist, and endure the rise and reign of antichrist.IV. Introduction:
- Premise: Most believers expect to see the soon coming of the true Christ and are generally unprepared for the possible soon coming of antichrist instead.
- Fact: There is nothing in the Bible that promises today’s believers that they will not be on earth for the rise and reign of antichrist.
- Fact: Those who teach that there is no way today’s believers will be on earth for the rise and reign of antichrist are false teachers.
- Assertion: Those who do not teach today’s believers that they could be on earth for the rise and reign of antichrist are not responsible teachers.
- Assertion: Because there is an abundance of Scripture suggesting that today’s believers could be on earth for the rise and reign of antichrist, it behooves believers to be prepared for that possibility.
- Conclusion: Believers prepared for antichrist today will be prepared for antichrist tomorrow.
- General Statement: Not anticipating and preparing for potential problems can result in disaster. People on the Titanic lost their lives not because their ship hit an iceberg, but because there were not enough lifeboats. Flight attendants today prepare passengers not only for a pleasant trip, but also for possible disaster. Noah was prepared for the flood, Joseph for famine, Jesus for the cross. They were all warned by God of coming circumstances, and they prepared accordingly. When the test came they were ready.Antichrist, by the Bible’s definition, is a disaster waiting to happen. Yet, even with all the Bible’s warnings, believers today are largely unprepared for his promised coming. Fortunately though, God has provided in Scripture everything we need to know about this coming disaster. When we take the time to read and heed what God is telling us, we come to understand that He has, in effect, given us a perfect disaster plan for antichrist.
IV. The Disaster Plan
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- Premise: There is no good reason for today’s believers not to be ready for antichrist’s appearance at any time.
- Fact: Scripture does not promise believers that antichrist has already come and gone.
- Fact: Scripture does not promise believers that they will be raptured prior to antichrist’s coming.
- Fact: Scripture does not promise believers that antichrist is not already in the world today and ready to appear at any moment.
- Assertion: It only serves the purpose of antichrist for today’s believers not to be expecting him.
- Conclusion: It is judicious and wise for today’s believers to be prepared for antichrist’s coming at any time.
- Premise: The spirit of antichrist is in the world and is preparing the world to accept antichrist’s coming as the true Christ’s coming.
- Fact: Antichrist does not want believers to know how to discern the difference between the genuine Christ and the counterfeit christ.
- Assertion: Today’s believers must be prepared to discern the difference between the true Christ and the counterfeit christ.
- Assertion: The necessary circumstances and conditions concerning the true Christ’s coming are clearly defined in the Bible.
- Assertion: Today’s believers must know what the Bible says about the true Christ and the true Christ’s coming so they can discern the counterfeit coming of antichrist.
- Conclusion: If today’s believers know the facts concerning the true Christ and the true Christ’s coming, then they will be prepared to recognize antichrist when he appears.
- The True Coming of Christ: How We Know
- The True Christ Will Return in the Clouds, in the Heavens.Acts 1:11….this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.Mark 13:26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
- Genuine: Just as Jesus departed into the clouds, into the heavens, he will return in the clouds, in the heavens.
- Counterfeit: Antichrist and his representatives may manipulate circumstances to approximate Acts 1:11 and Mark 13:26, e.g., antichrist may come from the clouds, from the heavens, as he arrives in an airplane/aircraft.
- Emphasis: The true Christ literally comes in the clouds, in the heavens. [ED: bodily and visibly]
- Warning: There are other requirements that help define the true Christ’s coming.
- The True Christ Will Return in the Clouds, in the Heavens, with Flames of Fire.2 Thessalonians l:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels: In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ…Revelation 13: 13,14 And he [the false prophet] doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men: And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had the power to do in the sight of the beast…
- Genuine: The true Christ returns in the clouds, in the heavens, with flames of fire.
- Counterfeit: In Revelation, Jesus warns of antichrist’s spectacularly deceptive false prophet who performs “great wonders” in the name of God. We are told that in the future this false prophet will call down fire from heaven much as Elijah did in 1 Kings 18:37-39. In the Old Testament account this fire from heaven was a sign that Elijah’s God was the true God. Jesus warns that the false prophet’s fire from heaven is deceptive and not from God.
- Emphasis: Jesus warns us to beware of this false prophet who will call down fire from heaven to impress and deceive the world.
- Warning: The Bible warns us not to follow “prophets” or “dreamers” whose prophecies, predictions, signs or wonders come true, if at the same time, they urge people to follow after another god:”If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder: And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the Lord your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul” (Deuteronomy 13:1-3).
- Note: Pharaoh’s magicians performed signs and wonders that sometimes approximated those of Moses. So it will be, and even more so, with antichrist and his false prophets, as they try to approximate and counterfeit the signs and wonders of the true Christ’s coming.
- Every Eye Shall See the True Christ as He Returns in the Clouds, in the Heavens, with Flames of Fire.Revelation l:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him…Matthew 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
- Genuine: Every eye will see the true Christ as he arrives in the clouds, in the heavens, with flames of fire.
- Counterfeit: Antichrist and his representatives may manipulate circumstances to approximate Revelation 1:7, e.g., everyone may see him on television as he arrives in an airplane/aircraft from the heavens on a cloudy day, perhaps in conjunction with the false prophet’s calling down fire from heaven.
- Emphasis: Every eye sees the true Christ up in the clouds, up in the heavens, with flames of fire as he lights up the sky from east to west.
- Warning: The true Christ’s return is an absolutely spectacular event that takes place in the heavens.
- When Believers See the True Christ as He Returns in the Clouds, in the Heavens, With Flames of Fire, They Will be like Him.1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.1 Corinthians 15:51,52 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
- Genuine: When believers see the true Christ they will be mysteriously transformed into his likeness [ED: physically, bodily].
- Counterfeit: Antichrist and his representatives may try to imitate 1 John 3:2 and 1 Corinthians 15:51,52. Those who do not recognize and resist antichrist when he comes may find themselves suddenly transformed and empowered by his presence. The experiencing of new powers and supernatural abilities may be so intoxicating that it will deceive people into believing that antichrist is the true Christ.
- Emphasis: The true transformation (believers being changed into Christ’s likeness) happens only when the true Christ returns.
- Warning: Before Jesus continues his descent from the clouds after everyone sees him, he must first meet with all believers in the air.
- After Believers See the True Christ Coming in the Clouds, in the Heavens, with Flames of Fire, They Will be like Him, and They Will be Caught up to Meet Him in the Air,1 Thessalonians 4: 15-18 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
- Genuine: After everyone sees Jesus returning in the clouds, believers will literally be caught up to meet the Lord in the air.
- Counterfeit: Antichrist and his representatives may try to imitate this literal meeting of Christ and his believers in the air, e.g., antichrist may claim that through the medium of television he gathers everyone together to see him and to meet him “on the air”; e.g., he may claim that because his image is being transmitted via satellite, that he is technically “in” the clouds, “in” the heavens, and meeting everyone “in” the air.
- Emphasis: Believers must meet with the true Christ up in the clouds, in the heavens, in the air. It is a literal and personal encounter in the sky. It is not symbolic. It is not electronic. It is not a vision. It does not take place in a dream. It does not happen on television or on the internet.
- Warning: If believers see a christ figure standing on earth, and they have not already met with him in the clouds, in the heavens, in the air, then this christ figure is not the true Christ.”Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo here is Christ, or there; believe it not.” (Matthew 24:23).”Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth, behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.” (Matthew 24:26)
- The Name of the One and Only Christ is Jesus.Philippians 2:9-11 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.Acts 10:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
- Genuine: Jesus is the one true Christ.
- Counterfeit: Antichrist and his representatives may seek to redefine the office of Christ to exclude Jesus as the one and only office holder, e.g., Jesus may be described as “a” christ; e.g., Buddha may be described as “a” christ, Mohammed “a” christ; e.g., each member of humanity may be described as “a” christ, and as such, a part of a counterfeit “body of christ”, of which antichrist, as Christ/God will be the head.
- Emphasis: The Bible underlines the exclusivity of the name and person of Jesus as the one and only Christ.
- Warning: In their attempt to reinvent and transform the person of Jesus into “another Jesus” (2 Corinthians 11:4), antichrist and his representatives will contradict the Bible’s description of Jesus.
- The True Christ, Jesus Christ, Assumes a New Name For his Millennial Reign.
He Writes This New Name Upon his Followers at the Beginning of his Reign.Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and 1 will write upon him my new name.- Genuine: The true Christ assumes a new name after his true coming and after all the events in Revelation have taken place. He writes this new name upon his faithful followers to reward them for their proven loyalty.
- Counterfeit: Antichrist and his representatives may seek to manipulate circumstances to make it appear that antichrist’s name is the new name of Christ as described in Revelation 3: 12, e.g., counterfeiting the return of the true Christ, antichrist could use Revelation 3:12 to justify his eliminating the name of Jesus as he initiates the “new age” of his “millennial reign” under his assumed “new name”, e.g., antichrist, by counterfeiting the true coming and manipulating Scripture to seemingly describe himself, could cleverly reinvent himself as Christ under his assumed new name. In the twinkling of an eye the world could be suddenly following a new age christ who comes in his own name. Jesus warned that something like this would happen. “I am come in my Father’s name, and ye received me not: if another shall come in his own name him ye will receive.” (John 5:43), e.g., perhaps citing Revelation 3:12, antichrist will seek to write his “new name” upon all humanity. The Bible warns that the number of his name is 666. “And he [agent of antichrist] causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred three score and six.” (Revelation 13:16,17)
- Emphasis: The new name that the true Christ assumes for his millennial reign does not take anything away from his lordship as Jesus throughout the previous age. And his new name does not change his person or character in any way. Most likely Jesus’ new name simply adds to the definition of who he already is. It may reflect his new relationship of living and dwelling with his people.
- Warning: Jesus is born Jesus; he is Lord and Savior Jesus; he dies as Jesus; he is resurrected as Jesus; and the Bible makes it clear that he returns as Jesus.” Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ…” (2 Thessalonians 2:1)”This same Jesus, which is taken from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven…” (Acts 1:11)”…until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ: Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords…”(l Timothy 6:14-15)
- When the True Christ Comes, Those Who Have Opposed Him Will be Judged.2 Thessalonians 1:7,8 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels: In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ…2 Timothv 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom…
- Genuine: When the true Christ comes he will judge unbelievers, dispensing vengeance to those who oppose him.
- Counterfeit: When antichrist comes he will judge unbelievers, dispensing vengeance to all who oppose him, e.g., believers in the true Christ who refuse to follow antichrist and take his mark will likely be labeled as antichrist to the rest of the world.
- Emphasis: Christ comes in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who disobey his gospel.
- Warning: True believers should not be surprised at the fiery trials that will come with antichrist as he counterfeits the true Christ’s judgement by seeking vengeance on all those who oppose him.
- Revelation is a Prophecy Given to Us by the True Christ. It Can Not be Changed. It Will Come True.Revelation l:l The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John…Revelation 22:6 And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.Revelation 22:18,19–For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
- Genuine: Jesus Christ revealed to the apostle John events that must take place in the future. The events described cannot be stopped, cut short, or changed in any way. Revelation is not a possibility or a probability. It is a sure prophecy.
- Counterfeit: Antichrist and his representatives seek to change or even do away with the Book of Revelation, e.g., antichrist may reward the world’s faith in him by declaring Revelation null and void. By following him, and taking his mark, the world would believe they were receiving apparent peace and safety instead of the horrible events of Revelation.
- Emphasis: All the events in Revelation will happen.
- Warning: Beware of those who seek to reinterpret, change, or downplay Revelation in any way. God promises severe consequences to those who try to alter the words and meaning of this prophecy.
- The True Christ and the True Christ’s Coming Will Always Agree with Scripture.2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness…Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.
- Genuine: The true Christ not only honors and abides by Scripture, he also fulfills it.
- Counterfeit: Antichrist and his representatives do not honor and abide by Scripture. Instead, they selectively distort, redefine, and contradict Scripture for their own purposes. Antichrist though, no matter how clever, will never meet the Bible’s literal requirements for the true coming of Christ.
- Emphasis: The true Christ fulfills Scripture as it is written.
- Warning: Beware of those who come in the name of God, Christ, Holy Spirit, etc., to undermine rather than underline the truth of literal Scripture.
- The True Christ Will Return in the Clouds, in the Heavens.Acts 1:11….this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.Mark 13:26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
- Premise: The antichrist spirit is in the world.1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
- Assertion: The antichrist spirit is on the move.1 Peter 5:8,9 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: Whom resist steadfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.
- Assertion: Antichrist and his representatives come in the name of light and love and Christ.2 Corinthians 11:13, 14 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
- Assertion: Antichrist and his representatives come with signs, wonders and miracles that pretend to be from God.2 Thessalonians 2:9 Even him [antichrist], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders…
- Assertion: The antichrist spirit with it’s many temptations must be resisted.James 4:7–Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
- Exhortation: Resist antichrist and his temptations by being spiritually alert.Matthew 26:41 Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.
- Exhortation: Resist antichrist and his temptations by not being ignorant of his schemes and devices.1 Corinthians 2:ll Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.
- Exhortation: Resist antichrist and his temptations by exposing his schemes and devices.Ephesians 5:ll And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
- Exhortation: Resist antichrist and his temptations by testing the spirits.1 John 4:1-3 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
- Exhortation: Resist antichrist and his temptations by standing fast on the truth of God’s word.1 Peter 1:25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever…
- Exhortation: Resist antichrist and his temptations by contending for the faith.Jude 1:3 …ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
- Exhortation: Resist antichrist and his temptations by standing fast in the strength of the Lord.Ephesians 6: 10,ll Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.l Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
- Exhortation: Resist antichrist and his temptations by holding fast to the truth.Revelation 3:11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
- Premise: Countless numbers of people will be deceived into believing antichrist is Christ.Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
- Assertion: Those who mistake antichrist for the true Christ will hate those who hold to the name of Jesus.Matthew 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
- Assertion: Believers in the true Christ need to be prepared for persecution, punishment, and death at the hands of antichrist and his followers.2 Timothy 3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.Revelation 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held…
- Exhortation: Believers should not be surprised they are persecuted.1 Peter 4:12,13 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you: But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ’s sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
- Exhortation: Believers should not be afraid or troubled when they are persecuted.1 Peter 3:14 But and if ye suffer for righteousness’ sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled…Philippians 1:28–And in nothing terrified by your adversaries: which is to them an evident token of perdition, but to you of salvation, and that of God.
- Exhortation: Believers should consider themselves blessed when they are persecuted.Matthew 5:ll Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.James 5:ll Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.
- Exhortation: Experiencing tribulation is part of the faith.Acts 14:22 …and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.
- Exhortation: Tribulation works patience.Romans 5:3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience…
- Assertion: Enduring persecution and tribulation, believers are to wait patiently for the return of the true Christ.2 Thessalonians 3:5 And the Lord direct your hearts into the love of God, and into the patient waiting for Christ.Luke 21:19 In your patience possess ye your souls.Revelation 2:25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.
- Assertion: God gives strength to believers through his promises. (2 Peter 1:4)Hebrews 13:5 …for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that Love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.2 Corinthians 12:9 …My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness.Matthew 28:20 … and, to, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
A. Expecting Antichrist: Believers Must Be Ready.2 Thessalonians 2:1-5 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
B. Recognizing Antichrist: Know The Genuine Christ.Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
2 Corinthians 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
C. Resisting Antichrist: Standing Fast
D. Enduring Antichrist: Persevering.
V. Conclusion: When asked by his disciples what would be the sign of his coming and of the end of the world, Jesus answered, “Take heed that no man deceive you” (Matthew 24:4). Having been warned repeatedly by the Lord about deception, and in particular antichrist, it is important that believers today not be deceived into thinking that they cannot be deceived. This disaster plan is a small attempt to better prepare believers for the possible soon coming of antichrist. Not to prepare for that possibility seems naive and dangerous. There are too many lives at stake for everyone to just “hope for the best.” Thus it has been the purpose of this disaster plan to help people “prepare for the worst.”The Bible tells us that we are in a race, and that we are to run so as to win the prize (1 Corinthians 9:24). We are told that the race goes not to the swift (Ecclesiastes 9:11), but to those who run with patience (Hebrews 12:l) and are able to endure (Matthew 24:13).
In preparing for a race of unknown distance and duration, the serious runner will prepare for the most extreme possibility. The committed runner will not train for less than a marathon if he knows he may have to run a marathon to win the prize.
Believers today must be ready not only to recognize antichrist, but also to resist his powerful temptations, and ultimately to endure his wrath. We must be prepared for the worst…to go the distance…to run the race set before us…to win the prize.
“Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.” (1 Thessalonians 5:6)
Article taken from here: http://www.velocity.net/~edju/Anti.htm
Heresy within Charismania: Tonques
Please see below video before writing me off.
I realize I may touch someones’ little idol when I expose this mockery. After all, so many of us have been taught it is ok to act the fool while uttering gibberish, falling out of your chair and slithering and jerking on the floor. My aim is not to discredit all tongues. I simply do not know. I do know this much; I know that the church has taught that one must have the gift of tongues to be filled with the Holy Spirit. I do not believe this. If you received the gift of tongues and are now able to actually speak russian, chinese etc. then you need to be in those nations preaching the gospel. But I have yet to see this. Instead I see the following in the church. Complete blasphemy nad mockery of the gift of tongues.
This is the very same spirit at work when the disciples were accused of being drunk. Whereas the disciples said no to the lie, here, the church actually has embraced the lie. The disciples were accused of being drunk to discredit their witness. Did you hear that? They were accused by Satan through the mouths of the ones who wanted to discredit them. They were not drunk. The enemy was trying to make the people think they were drunk so the people would not listen to them. Do you see that?
The video starts out with Kenneth Hagin appearing like an old drunken slob. If that offends anyone, you need to ask yourself why? I know why it offends me. A drunken old man standing over me, suppossedly of God or not, is one that I find disgusting. The Jesus I serve would NEVER stand over me is such a manner.
We are called to be sober.
Hagin says, “They heard them speak in tongues but what did they see for them to think they were drunk? They must have thought they were drunk. They were acting like drunks.” Then Hagin begins a drunken mocking laughter.
I say again, they were not drunk. The enemy was trying to make the people think they were drunk so the people would not listen to them. Do you understand that?
At one minute into the video a very well-to-do looking couple begin to slither out of their chairs. The complete look of stupidity upon their faces is demonic. You tell me how a God who has given us a sound mind could look so utterly stupid. You can’t tell me.
At 1:20 “Dad” Hagin has to be escorted by a few men as he is just too drunk to stand on his own. I find this so repulsive. And if you believe in a Holy God, you should too. The expression on his face is not that of the Holy Spirit but that of another.
At 2:00 into it, we are introduced to Kenneth Copeland. He too is laughing while Hagin can barely stand up being held up by three men. Now church, I once was a drunkard when in the world. And I have had my share of being around a few drunks in my lifetime. I found it distasteful then, I find this even more distasteful. So you tell me, you who want to cling to this idol of yours, why a Holy God would expect me to embrace this? I abhor it. The Spirit in me tells me it is wrong.
“This is the first time we’ve had a full minifestation of that annointing.”
This is NOT the annointing of God.
“You got that! You got that!” He throws the annointing and the crowd roars backward. Complete bedlam breaks out.
At 3:16, a few men appeared to be locked together. Sorry, church, this is not the love of Christ at work here. In the meantime there is a constant cooing sound. It is coming from the woman to the right of Hagin.
Kenneth Copeland, (who I believe has more than one demon in him) is on the floor feeding this frenzy with his antics.
At about 4:40, the woman on Hagins’ right begins to make even dumber and louder noises.
At 5:28 the camera pans over to Copeland. Notice the expression of his face. Did he get sober all at once? It is like he is all of a sudden tired of the theatrics himself. Bored, no longer amused or having fun. Maybe he just wants to go home now, now that the fun is over.
Occult Kundalini Spirit within the Church
The purpose of kundalini stated on this video is “To create a new man, a man who is happily mindless.”My gosh! Do you want to be mindless?! Do you dare to let any teacher, any man, any so-called prophet of God make you mindless with their beliefs and teachings and acceptance of this spirit?! Do you dare test God by NOT taking your brain and TESTING ALL THINGS?! There is no excuse to not search out these things. no excuse at all.
Are not these things being manifested on these videos the VERY things that Jesus cast out of people?! Yet, the church wants to call it the manifestation of the Holy Spirit! Such mockery! Will you stand up for the truth in reguard to no man, now? You see the truth before your very eyes. There is no excuse now.
The man at 4:35 has definitely been touched by something and it creeps me out greater than anything on the clip. I dare say it was NOT the Holy Ghost. His movements are demonic and could only be of a demons manifesting through him but the church wants to call these things the Holy Ghost. Call me just “religious.” I don’t care! Get it! I don’t care! These things are NOT of God! Warning, these things are NOT of God. I don’t care how many experiences you and I may have had in the past where it well, just felt like God, and my experience was so good. I don’t care! Don’t you see we were deceived in following a different Jesus? A different spirit? Only pride would stop a person from admitting it. Oh that we all would wake up because a greater delusion comes. A greater delusion comes!
If this is what heaven is going to be like, then I don’t want to go there. For who in their right mind wants to spend eternity in this among people like this?!
Precious Bride of Christ, flee from these things! Come out from the Whore!
Fake Signs and Wonders
Video of all the different signs and wonders (delusions and illusions) coming into the church. The oil, the angel feathers, the gemstones, the gold teeth. As far as gold teeth, I have always wondered why not a brand new tooth instead of gold?
The man at the end kind of makes me sad. He is either one heck of an actor, or being purposely set up to be made to look like a fool, or either perhaps schizophrenic and someone is taking advantage of his sickness. He talks about angels. Right at 7:30 into it, it appears he sees something. Someone asks him, “What did you just see?” He says, “She dropped it, she dropped another stone right here. It’s laying right there. Can’t you see it?!” He walks out into the yard, “It’s as big as a mountain.” Slight over statement on his part.
He digs around in the grass and starts CRYING. He says through tears, “Look at that, isn’t that beautiful?”
I would have to ask this man, “Is it not more beautiful that Jesus died upon the cross for us and saved our worthless vile souls from hell?”
Surely those who are decieving others will be brought down one way or another. Even so, come quickly, Lord.
Anti-christ; Todd Bentley’s Apostolic and Prophetic Commissioning
The spirit of anti-Christ was at work in Tod Bentley’s commissioning over the past year. I found it very interesting that they gave him a ring. WHAT is that about? A marriage? Some kind of “divine” joining? And to what, I would ask? It is obvious it is as much symbolism as it is substance. Do not think these people do anything without it meaning something to them in their own little elitest group.
Che Ahn tells us all that it is “representing the network of apostles coming together, the body of Christ is coming together in love and unity.”
To which I would say, yeah, think so? You people have done nothing but try and discredit anyone who has spoken out against this apostate movement from the very beginning. You do it by calling us “religious, unteachable, unsubmissive, Jezebelle, devisive,” etc. You make war with the true Saints of God through your lies and with your delusions, and you answer to no one but one another. And that is done with such hypocrisy and elitism. You dare not question one another. Tell me WHY whould I bow down to your teachings!? You need to repent, you who hate truth!
Thank God Tod Bently fell from within the ranks of heresy! I wonder if they called off the marriage and asked for their ring back?
Heretic: Stacey Campbell, head shaking “prophetess.”
I have a few things against you, because you suffered that woman Jezebel, which calls herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed to idols. And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. Behold I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. Revelation 2:20-22 (Video below)
Somebody should make this woman sit down. This is a real example of Jezebel at work within the church. All those men on that stage with her and not one had the guts to make her sit down. Or better yet, call her out as a false prophetess. But they do not because it is people like I who are being called the Jezebel. What hypocrisy in this movement! What lying abominable apostates they all are!
I would ask when you read her words below, that if you look upon her words as not coming from God, then from who? It can either be of herself or the enemy. I say the devil makes himself known very well through this woman. Listen carefully to what she says.
A transcript of her words: “And the spirit came on me and said, “Tod because you have asked like very few men on the face of the earth have asked, to see my glory I will begin a revival through you.”
I would have to ask, “Ok Tod, what exactly did you ask? Was it about you and having power? Or was it truly about lives being changed through the Spirit and the Word of God? We already know that was not the case because of the many abominations you brought all through this “revival.”
“That will pass beyond gifts into the very heart that moves god. To release gifts to his children.”
What about repentance? What about changed lives? What about holiness?
“And Jesus filled with compassion healed the sick and Jesus filled with forgiveness said he who is without sin cast the first stone. And Jesus filled with justice and truth threw over tables and took out whips and cleansed the temple of God.”
Yes, Jesus did those things and Satan was there to see it happen. This is a subtle mockery.
It is also a very subtle warning from the enemy not to judge their deeds.
“And Tod I have chosen you because of your background. Because of your background, because of your background. To release my nature when you release my gifts.”
“To become a living epistle like the Word that became flesh.”
Is she saying like Jesus? What an abomination! What a mockery of the One True Jesus!
This is Satan speaking!
“I will use you to father a movement that operates in such revival power that is coming out of the very nature and the heart of God.”
LIAR! What? One that kicks sick people in the stomach? One that tells lies and mocks and blasphemes the true Jesus?!
“And you will teach people how to behold god until they are transformed from glory to glory from compassion to mercy to loving kindness to truth to justice to forgiveness.”
LIAR! Satan wants people to behold HIS glory and power. This transformation thing is occultic and new age, preparing the way for a greater delusion and perhaps anti-christ.
Then she bends down over him and lays her hand on his stomach. Which is kind of perverse in my opinion. Too much closeness here and more releasing of the kundalini spirit at work.
“And a whole generation will move in such signs and wonders and power…”
I can almost see Satan salivating here.
“… but everyone will give glory to god.”
LIAR! No, people will be worshipping an image of Jesus you apostates have created!
“I feel like Tod that when you were 12 years old and I just graduated from Baptist seminary The holy spirit fell on me and he started to speak to me over and over and over again about a generation that would come upon the earth.”
This generation is not of God. If you do not believe me, just do a search on The New Mystics with John Crowder. The generation being brought up has no respect for the pure unadulterated Word of God. They are being equipped for battle against the true saints of God.
“That would do signs and wonders and change society and society would not change them.”
I would have to ask, signs and wonders for what purpose? To get people to believe in God? They have the Word. But rather, is it not, to get the simple to unknowingly follow Satan?
“And you are the first fruits of that generation of nation changers that will release the glory of god and all it’s fullness.”
Tod, the first fruits? Now that is scary. Imagine a whole generations of liars, heretics and apostates. Am I the only one looking forward to the second coming of Christ?
“We give you the keys to eastern Europe. Especially the poor and the rejected, the gypsies. and the Lord says because you have loved his personal presence, there are two annointings that are released on his presence and I just want to release those two annointings on you from the lord. By the way, the lord says you’re a well pleasing son. The father, abba said that to you personally. The first annointing is the pleasure of the Lord.”
He lays his hand on Tod’s stomache and begins to quote scripture that is in regard to Jesus: “Surely he has born our grief. sickness, weakness and carried our sorrow unto pain… you were considered stricken and afflicted by God. but He was bruised for our ininquities…and god is releasing his pleasure of what he did upon to jesus unto you, Tod…2nd annointing he wants to give you is, because you have loved righteousness and delighted in integrity and virtue and uprightness in heart in thought and action and you have hated unjustice and iniquity…the lord has annointed you.”
Nope, can not say God was in this at all!
It bears repeating: Tod, the first fruits? Now that is scary. Imagine a whole generations of liars, heretics and apostates. Am I the only one looking forward to the second coming of Christ?
BAD ROOTS: A.A. Allen casting out a demon
This is laughable. I wonder how many people fell for this. This isn’t no demon. This is just real bad acting for everyone involoved! I wonder who this woman was and how much they paid her? I wonder where they got her? If anyone has a suggestion, I am open.
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