READ THIS FIRST: I am refusing to take any more comments from those who want to defend this woman. There is plenty of proof and information below she is a deceiver and a false teacher/prophet, etc. What you do with the information is now between you and God. I will not continue to debate this with those of you who will not look at the truth.
I was not about to go out and buy the book as Christian bookstores have become nothing more than Occult and self-help in nature. I do best when I stay out of them with all the aposotacy being shoved down our throat under the guise as truth. However I did find some information on Thomas gotten here: http://signofjonah.wordpress.com/2007/01/19/choos-message-is-hard-to-swallow/#comment-42143
The info is as follows:
Recently, we had an inquiry from a minister in Malaysia concerning Choo Thomas and her book ”Heaven is So Real”.
Dear Rev. _______,I am very sorry for the delay in responding to your question concerning Choo Thomas. Hopefully, I can give you enough information to be worth the wait. I am sorry to hear that you have a friend who has been caught up in the movement and even sadder to hear of the impact the book is having in Malaysia. God bless you as you seek to stand for the truthfulness of his word.
As you may know, Thomas’s story is that the Lord personally took her to heaven 17 times or more over a period of about one month. The purpose for these revelations was so that she could write a book that would convince people that heaven is real because apparently the Bible is not sufficient.
Each of these visits to heaven is preceded by violent manifestations in which Thomas loses control of her body. This loss of control continues today whenever she is worshipping or performing her healing dance. Here are some quotes:
“On the night of January 19, the Lord’s presence was so intense in my bedroom that I shook, perspired and felt very weak for more than an hour” (page 7) “Because of the trembling of my body that always accompanied the Lord’s visits, Roger was now sleeping in the guest bedroom” (page 14)“During the night of February 12, my body shook more violently than it ever had. I was almost hurled from the bed because it was so forceful. I tried to grab the sheet to steady myself, but I couldn’t because I had no control over my body. The shaking was unremittingly forceful, and I grew afraid.” (page 17)
RedeemedHippie>>>[I had a similar experience when I was in the occult. One night after studying the occult, I grabbed hold of my blanket sensing something trying to jerk me out of my body. One has to wonder what kind of god Choo is allowing to sling her around the bedroom. She should have tested this event. She chose not to because she had already believed the lie that she was special. Jesus said, "I am gentle and lowly." This should be enough truth to anyone to know this was NOT the One True God. To make him any other way, is to make Him a liar.]
These all occurred during the visitations. Here is what is happening now.
“Sometimes the power of His anointing on my hands and arms is so strong that I feel as if my hands are actually breaking apart. One Sunday morning my hand touched my eyes thirty-six times, and before each of these touches, my hands made seven different strange movements.” (page 205)
RedeemedHippie>>>[She is describing more of an occult happening than one of some kind of sanctified notion with the Lord.]
She now also claims that God has told her that when she dances in church no one is allowed to touch her hands before she dances so that her hands will remain holy. Further God told her that she is never to stand at the back of the other worshippers but always in front and that the entire platform belongs to her.
RedeemedHippie>>>[Such arrogance and self exaltation. What better way for Satan to make a show of himself by putting himself up front? I wonder how many people felt unsure about this but gave in to it because of peer pressure.]
These manifestations sure seem to have more in common with demonic possession or kundalini arousal than anything to do with the Holy Spirit.
The book is full of false doctrine. Choo repeatedliy undercuts the authority, sufficiency and power of the Holy Scriptures. Here is a quote from the front page of her website:
“Heaven is so Real is our Lord Jesus’ end time book.”
Redeemedhippie>>>[Who says so? Anyone anywhere can write a book and say the same thing. The Bible, and the Bible alone is sufficient. Revelations 22: 18,19 If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plaques that are written in this Book. and if any man shall take away from the words of the this Prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the Book of Life, and out of the Holy City, and from the things which are writeen in this Book.]
He only used my body to write this book. He wants all believers and unbelievers to read it and prepare for His coming. He said, He is giving people a chance to know what it takes to enter His Kingdom through this book. Remember, none of our salvations are secure until the end. We must do our best while we have a chance.”
Notice that her book is on parallel with scripture because Jesus wrote it. Also notice that salvation is not secure and is not completely by grace. We must secure it ourselves.
Here are some quotes from the book itself.
“My daughter, you are an End-Times prophetess,’ the Lord told me, “and you are living proof of My Word and My prophecies…….”He told me that many people don’t believe His words and prophecies, and He said even some Christians do not believe them.” (page 168)
“He wants me to serve as living proof of the Bible and His prophecies, because many people do not believe what they read in the Bible, nor do they believe He is coming soon for His people.” (page 177)
“He had shown me how desperate many people are to know the truth about heaven, and I realized emphatically that my book would be the means whereby they could really know.” (124)
RedeemedHippie>>>[See the delusions of grandeur here? Bride of Christ, we have the Word of God. We do not need books written by heretics.]
Notice that her book will be able to tell people the truth about heaven and truly convince them whereas the Bible is unable to do this.
Here’s more:
“Every word in this book is true. The words of Jesus have been transcribed exactly as He said them to me.” (page 153)
“Like John, I had been called to write, and my mission was the same as his-to let people know that the marriage supper of the Lamb has already been prepared, and blessed are those who are invited to be there on the last day.” (129)
RedeemdedHippie>>>[Once again self exalatation; to even compare herself with John is such a lie.]
Later in the book, Thomas reveals that not every Christian goes to heaven. Those who are not obedient enough spend eternity wandering in a desert.
“When we got to the top, I looked over a brown and lifeless valley. Everywhere there was brown. The whole region seemed to be filled with dead grass. I noticed multitudes of people who were wearing sand-colored robes roaming aimlessly in the vicinity of the pit’s yawning mouth. Their heads were hanging low, and they looked very dejected and hopeless. “Who are these people, Lord?” I asked.
“They are disobedient ‘Christians” “How long will they have to stay in this barren, lifeless place?“Forever, My daughter. The only ones who will enter My kingdom are the pure of heart-My obedient children.” (page 46 see also page 249)
Notice that these people are not lost and are not cast into hell. Thomas has discovered a third place where people will spend eternity.
Elsewhere, Thomas tells us some of the conditions for actually getting inside heaven.
“Innocence, trust, purity of heart, fascination, a sense of wonder, belief, joy, happiness, present-moment living-all these are some of the magical qualities of childhood that God wants us to exhibit to GET TO HEAVEN” (133)
RedeemedHippie>>>[Fascination? A sense of wonder? We can be fascinated with all kinds of things; even evil. But this is NO requirement to enter heaven.]
The book is patently arrogant. Over and over again Thomas informs us that Jesus told her that she is His special daughter. She is his obedient daughter. He can use her because her heart is so pure.
RedeemedHippie>>>[Satan loves to appeal to pride. He loves to make people feel they are special. Once he can do this, he has begun to build a cult through the person he has deceived.]
Elsewhere in the book she tells us that if we do not believe the book and rejoice in it, we will not be prepared for Jesus’s coming.
RedeemedHippie>>>[This is such a fear tactic to get those who may want to take the time to test things, to follow these apostate teachings.]
We may have to endure the terror of the tribulation period or we may not make it in the gates of heaven. She claims on her website that we should read the book over and over.
RedeemedHippie>>>[This endorsesment of reading a book over and over instead ot the Word of God, is blasphemous and heretical. This is how cult thinking begins; repetition. The only safe Book to be in is the Word of God.] It is interesting that in the foreward to the book, David Yonggi Cho writes the following, “Please do not consider this a theological thesis or a book on doctrine. Just read it and enjoy it as the author’s personal experience and testimony about what she has seen and heard in heaven.”
I suspect that Cho wrote that because even Cho can tell that the book is terribly flawed doctrinally. But his words are fascinating. We are supposed to accept the claims that this woman makes about her visits to heaven and her conversations with the Lord but we can’t accept the doctrine that the “Lord” actually speaks to her. Can you imagine saying that about any other Word from God?
Pastor ___________, Choo Thomas is a heretic and a false prophet in the first degree. I pray that the eyes of your friend will be opened to the truth.
Blessings as you battle for our Savior,
Pastor Keith Gibson
RedeemedHippie>>>[If you have read this and are familiar with Choo Thomas, run from her teachings. They are meant to deceive and rob you of truth. Test all things with the Word of God. All others are imposters and deceivers!]
Jun 24, 2009 @ 20:12:53
I have been a christian since I was 25 I am now 70. I have read Jesse’s book about heaven and the book Inside Heavens Gates but this book made me confused and who does confustion come from? After reading this my son and I are going to burn the book because I don’t want no one to feel like I did. I thank the Holy Spirit for showing me the truth about this book.
Very Sincerely,
Shirl Cooper
Jun 24, 2009 @ 20:24:13
Dear Shirl, May the Prince of Peace rule over your heart, soul and mind.
Yes, I would burn the book. God is not the author of confusion. Never never never be afraid to test things. Never let anyone make you doubt when something is giving you a red light. Sometimes that red light is God.
We have the Word of God. We have Jesus. He is more than enough, right?
Be blessed dear one. Be blessed.
Aug 28, 2009 @ 09:11:33
I read this book and still unsure whether to believe or not, sometimes I think she is right but sometimes it is too much, I am in confusion, I just pray to God to help me know his words
Aug 28, 2009 @ 13:04:49
Ramlina, remember, God is not the author of confusion. To know HIS words one must be in HIS word. The fact that her book is being endorsed to be read with or over the Bible is out and out wrong. That is a lie.
This woman is no more special in God’s eyes than you, Ramlina. The devil would have you to believe that she is greater than you because she speaks forth such things and then tricking you in to following her heresies. God Himself will lead you into all truth.
Do not be afraid to question. Jesus tells us many deceptions will come near the end. Know what God’s Word says and cling to it. Jesus is the only One who will never fosake us.
Oct 15, 2009 @ 17:54:49
do you happen to have the whole book in electronic form? I’m writing an article about the book and need to quote certain sections. Thanks
Oct 15, 2009 @ 21:20:08
Gary, no I do not have the book. When you get done with the article, I would like to see it.
Oct 27, 2009 @ 10:02:25
when I was reading her book I started getting very depressed and I couldn’t understand why…I know that Jesus isn’t weird and why would He have to work on her body parts for hours…..This book should be burn and one day I went and threw it in the garbage and realize that this was deception the very thing that the Lord warns us about in the last days. God have mercy on that woman’s soul.. and she would have us believe that the Lord would show her , her mother burning in hell…………..Give me the Word of God….Thank God for the Bible…Thank you for your website.
Oct 27, 2009 @ 11:37:22
Gayle, I am so glad you threw that book away and were set free from this woman’s witchcraft. When I came to the Lord in 1976 I threw away EVERY single occult thing I had and that was some collection back then. You did the right thing by burning it.
Yes, the Word of God is enough! More than enough. Bless you my friend and may His truth continue to set you free in all ways.
Nov 10, 2009 @ 04:50:15
The one thing that always disturbed me about the book was when she talked about children being in hell. I simply don’t believe that at all. I think that the age of accountability may be different for everyone but I truly do NOT think 7 year old children will be burning in hell. Please! Also she said she saw members of her family that were raptured, but she never tells their age or anything only to say that they were older than they are now and that the time is near. I also think she has taken her meditation too far and is probably experiencing what she believes are visitations from God, but through the induction of Out of Body Experiences she has opened herself up to possession.
Nov 10, 2009 @ 12:57:59
OHKE…all of this is a bit shocking to all of us …
but I would like to ask… Seeing that the whole book is a joke to the devil…!! a hoaks and that we can actuali see how sick the devil is when he made us scared, depressed etc… Choo prayed for the devil to flee… and told us that we should also pray like that… Why did he not flee??? or give a sign of fleeing??? please answer that freely… thank you…
Nov 10, 2009 @ 14:44:07
Jennifer, I’m not sure what you are asking me. Are you saying the devil did not flee when you prayed? Or that he did not flee when she prayed?
Nov 10, 2009 @ 14:50:04
Heather, you make very good points. I think your observations are right on. Yes, possession. I have had out of body experiences (never went to other planets or stuff like that) and I believe it is demonic in nature.
Also, if you notice in her video the slight electrical humming in the background that is there to induce the listener into a state of hypnosis.
Nov 19, 2009 @ 23:54:52
Thank you for your page on Choo and her book. I went to her website and watched the video to see if there was anything that blatantly contradicted scripture in her trips to heaven, and hell. I guess they wanted to keep it so general, that no one could say “there it is”, so I guess it must be in the book. To me, it seems that this woman is probably not a person who is deliberalty deceptive, but a decieved person. Her experiences with the Lord seem to be on the order of the Toronto, and Pensecola revival. These “manifestations” are very suspect.
I guess the main point, that the autor of this blog, is making, is that the book makes itself equal, or superior to the Word. That’s the same with Divine revelation of hell. Which is a worse book. People actualy belive these experiences, even when they conrtadict the Bible. Whoever redeemed hippie is; thank you for your ministry of discernment. I am a former hippie from lsd, and new age days as well.
Nov 20, 2009 @ 01:28:13
Pastor Rick, whether or not Choo is purposely deceiving others or not, is yet to be known. Either way, I believe she thinks highly of herself because the demons that speak to her have led her to believe she is “special.” “Chosen by God” so to say. I agree her “manifestations” go along with toronto and the other hosts of false revivals.
Glad to know another redeemed “hippie.”
Thanks for coming by. Be blessed.
Nov 22, 2009 @ 04:32:44
I read some of Choo Thomas book, “Heaven Is So Real”. It absolutely crushed my heart to think that Jesus would send a soul to hell (like her mother as she stated), who had never even heard of the Lord before she died. I just cant believe that my Lord would condemn anyone to hell if they had no knowledge of him, and then given the choice to accept him as their Savior. After reading such information I couldn’t even stomach to read further on. May God bless and have mercy on the souls of us all.
Nov 23, 2009 @ 21:47:30
I’ve been a God fearing believer for 26 years, and what I know more than anything is that God can do ALL things. His power can’t be put in a box. If he wants to use a little korean lady to bring people to him then so be it…and I’ve seen people turn their lives completely around to the Lord Jesus Christ through this book, and Satan would not do that. Why would evil look to destroy itself? Satan can’t even utter the name of Jesus, and would never coach people on how to cast out the enemy like Jesus does in Choo’s book. You guys are acting as the pharasee’s in the Bible…to arogant to know Jesus when he’s standing right in front of you.
Nov 23, 2009 @ 22:18:09
Landon, first off, please tell me WHERE in the word of God are we told “Satan can’t even utter the name of Jesus.” I used to believe that. But it is not true. Example; Jim Jones, Charles Manson and other abominable men could speak the name “Jesus” very easily. Point being, they had the devil in them. So can pop stars, movie stars, hip hop stars, etc. Your belief is a lie from hell.
“His power can’t be put in a box.” Puleeease. Every time someone mentions “the box,” it is just another way of saying, “Do not test anything. Put your brain on the backburner and just trust everything to be of God.”
Yes, God can do all things. BUT He never goes against His Word. Never. He is not a man who would lie. Choo Thomas, whether she is aware of it or not, is a liar. Meaning; she speaks lies IN the Name of Jesus. THAT right there is creating God and truth in HER image. WHAT Jesus is she leading people to, if the one she is leading them to is false?
Evil can only “appear” to destroy itself. When one believes a lie — no matter how small at first — the lie becomes greater and greater when there is no love for truth. Satan comes as an angel of light. Are you so naïve to believe he comes with pitchfork and horns?
What part of the Falling Away do you not get? Jesus WARNED us that in the last days there would be apostates and deceivers. He said to test ALL things. What part of that do you not understand? You want to believe a delusion and a lie, go ahead. I’m not stopping you. But before you come here again accusing anyone of being a Pharisee just because they are testing things, I encourage you to get in the word of God and begin learning truth from lies, lest a greater delusion come upon you.
I’ve given you more than enough info on Choo Thomas. You can believe whatever you want. Turn aside from the truth shown here and ignore it, and the next delusion that comes upon you will be greater.
IF you were as God fearing as you say, you would be testing things.
Nov 24, 2009 @ 04:36:48
Actually I read Choo’s book very carefully to “test” as you say, and everything she says is backed by scripture. I really have nothing else to say on this blog except you guys should be more open to God, and not automatically perceive everything new as NOT being from God. I mean come on here, how do you guys explain the pharisee’s disbelief? God says that his parribles are made so that babes would understand and yet the wise be blinded….and because the Bible is complete does that mean God can have no more interaction with his children? I think not! If you all can twist and distort Choo’s book enough to call it a lie, then how do you say that the Bible itself isn’t a lie? I don’t think anyone on this blog has actually read Choo’s book and really tested it to scripture….or if you did, you already had a closed mind to the book to begin with. Anyone can construe falsehood from something they already are against.
and I understand Satan can come as an angel of light, and that “humans” in sin can speak the name of Jesus. Satan however is not human, and can be cast out in the name of Jesus. This being said, how do you explain the Lord telling Choo to FIRST cast Satan out in the name of Jesus when she prays, and then pray to the Father, and then pray her prayer…..? If Satan is playing Jesus to Choo, he could NOT tell her to pray this way….he’d be casting out himself, which doesn’t work, and there are many scriptures that back this up.
Mar 16, 2012 @ 23:08:03
Landon, really. Where are the scriptures that back up what Choo says? She says the blood of our Lord is filthy, not possible. It cleanses and saves and covers us. It is undefiled by anything. It is incorruptible. This one statement is enough to make me throw that book away. This alone is scary. God does not need another book. He has the Bible, Jesus said It is Finished. Scripture says anyone adding or taking away from scripture, do not believe them even if an angel from Heaven comes to us telling us. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE BIBLE BEING ENOUGH? THE WORD OF GOD ALONE IS POWERFUL AND ABLE TO SAVE. CHOO’S BOOK CAN NOT SAVE. Think about what you are saying. Pray and ask God. This woman’s book is a fairy tale, it is not scripture. I am sure she loves God, she is however, deceived. Her prophecies have not come true. She was not allowed to dance in her church the dance she says she learned in Heaven so she left and found another church. He also had John to write the last book, Revelation. She believes she is so special, YOU ARE SPECIAL, ALL ARE SPECIAL. OUR LORD DIED FOR ALL. Why does the Bible not make mention of her and her book if it is so special? There is nothing after the Bible to lead people to God, the Bible is the very WORD of God, it is ALIVE and able to save. Choo’s book can not do that. The Bible does a very good job of proving Heaven is Real, Christ is real. TO ME HEAVEN IS WHERE CHRIST IS, THAT IS HEAVEN. He shall come for those who are His, we need to be in the Word of God to grow and to learn. Choo’s book and any other books are not what the Word is to the believer. We must have the Word. ASK GOD ABOUT THAT BOOK. HE WILL GET AN ANSWER TO YOU. BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU READ, WHAT YOU SEE WITH YOUR EYES AND HEAR WITH YOUR EARS. STAY IN THE WORD OF GOD. You will find TRUTH there.
It is the blood of our Lord that saves, not the book of Choo. That is the truth.
Jun 22, 2012 @ 22:56:04
I agree with you wanda when i read the book I felt confused and kept asking myself, is this real?? and I was kinda like shocked when she said that the blood of Jesus was filthy because its not. It protects us and makes us pure! I’m not going to judge her because I dont know her personally. she could love Jesus who knows? but I sensed something fishy there, just to be honest.
Jun 26, 2012 @ 13:13:09
Bella, you are one of the few whose eyes were opened about this book. So many love it even over the Bible, they speak of how it has made their relationship with Him closer. There is something very wrong with this in my opinion. We need to pray that the eyes of others be opened to the truth when reading this book. I know it was God who revealed to you the truth about this book. Thank you for your comments. Few seem to get it. Would that more like you would speak out as it is very concerning that believers are accepting such as this. Let us pray for those who are deceived that they may come to a knowledge of the truth. Thanks, Bella.
Apr 01, 2013 @ 23:56:33
I am at present reading Choo Thomas’ book, I am half way through, truthfully – I begin to fear that I am not worthy nor are my family/children to attain a place in Heaven, that my heart is not pure enough and it gave me thoughts of (is it worth loving/knowing Christ Jesus) I have not long understood/found Our Lord Jesus, Early in life I knew about Him but never truly understood all He is and did for us, when my heart opened and understood, I wept/cried for all that I had believed against Him. Since then I continually voice with my children/family to come to Him in all things —- point is, my faith is just growing and getting stronger, I thought that just by ‘Belief/Trust/Faith/Love and Repentance of our Sins Daily to Our Lord God in Christ Jesus Name’ daily communication from within our hearts, talking with Him as I work, drive, be on computor, in every aspect of daily living, talking with others of/about Him etc., would keep us safe from Satan, as simple as that. When reading parts of Choo’s book though some parts made me feel wow, my heart though began to feel fear/numb….reading Wanda’s comments has given my heart light and to know where to remain….As I am in Christ Jesus, thank you Wanda, thank you Redeemedhippieslace and all responses from faithful followers of Christ:
Nov 24, 2009 @ 05:32:22
Landon, Satan is a liar and he comes to steal kill and destroy. If you believe Choo’s writings line up with the Word of God, then there is nothing more than I can tell you. You have willingly set yourself up to believe lie after lie.
I stated once; http://redeemedhippiesplace.wordpress.com/category/choo-thomas/ “For example when Choo talks about seeing the blood of Jesus being filthy with our sins. I believe that is such a mockery of the truth. His blood is so pure that it covers OUR sins. NOT the other way around where our sins cover His blood. Please think on that for a while.” SHOW me IN the WORD where His blood is filthy with our sins! SHOW ME!
For her to endorse her book as some kind of “end times” book that Jesus told her that all must read it, is not only ridiculous but blasphemous. The BIBLE is more than enough. She has added to the word of God and therefore cursed herself. The Bible, and the Bible alone is sufficient. Revelations 22: 18,19 If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plaques that are written in this Book. And if any man shall take away from the words of the this Prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the Book of Life, and out of the Holy City, and from the things which are written in this Book
She says, “We must do our best while we have a chance.” Meaning get her book and receive it as part of the gospel AND works. Our best is NEVER good enough and will never be good enough. This is works. Only by what Jesus did upon the cross and that alone is good enough. Period.
Satan is a trickster and he can pretend to do anything he wants. He can pretend to cast himself out beings he is the one telling her to do it in the first place.
You said, “If you all can twist and distort Choo’s book enough to call it a lie, then how do you say that the Bible itself isn’t a lie?”
If that isn’t twisting things around, I don’t know what is. Choo is the one twisting things and you dare to compare that with anyone who would look at the word of God as the truth and nothing but the truth?
“I don’t think anyone on this blog has actually read Choo’s book and really tested it to scripture….or if you did, you already had a closed mind to the book to begin with. Anyone can construe falsehood from something they already are against.”
I have already said there is no way I would spend money on her book. I have more than enough information here. If you refuse to look at it, it is your business. I do not have to buy a bottle of poison to taste it to know if it will kill me or not. I did test it and found it lacking and even proved it false, so what is your deal!? You either desire truth in the inward parts or you do not.
I suggest you go back and reread this article “carefully” as you did Choo’s book and see what you come up with.
Mar 16, 2012 @ 23:34:43
You are 100% correct. I agree with you that those who have read Choo’s book would not be saying it agrees with scripture. For those who know scripture clearly not one thing she espouses is scriptural. She is totally deceived. I believe she loves God, her English is very poor, she shakes when she speaks and says that is the anointing (that is not the anointing). She needs prayer and deliverance. Many are making money from her sale of the book, from her interviews, from the upcoming movie that is said to be made. There is no salvation in her or her books/movies. Salvation is through our Lord and belief in Him through the blood only and not any man or woman. The Word has power. Choo’s book has none. Men can choose in whom they believe. Choo is not to be compared to Him. I understand she had not been a believer very long and knew little scripture. I believe it is very dangerous to add this book as a must for believers to make Heaven, this is a very serious matter. Some may miss Heaven because of this book and what it teaches. It seems many do not know the Lord if they can run after this book and believe it, if you know Him I do not believe you would believe it. I am sorry for the many who abuse you verbally because of your stance. It is amazing how so many have literally been fooled into believing there is now another book one must read to believe Heaven is REAL for Christ on the Cross was not enough, the Bible was not enough, He needed Choo to prove Heaven is Real. How any believer can swallow this boggles the mind and more. Thank you for this website and I apologize for the nasty remarks sent your way. You do not deserve that. May God bless you for even if one person is sent to the Word, that is good. I thank you.
Apr 01, 2012 @ 16:05:45
Wanda, thank you for the kind words. No need for you to apologise for anything. I don’t let Choo defenders bother me. I simply trash their comments. I figure there are plenty of examples on truth right here along with comments such as your own, that if people really want the truth they will listen. If not, they are free to leave this place. You take care and I appreciate your love for truth. God bless you.
Nov 25, 2009 @ 01:00:11
Landon, I am not posting your comments anymore. I have stated my position and you have failed to look at the facts. This will not be a forum for pushing a heretic’s book.
Nov 30, 2009 @ 13:14:02
Yes, I’m asking… why was there no sign of the devil fleeing when choo prayed… I just don’t get that.. I would like to know… ???
Dec 01, 2009 @ 14:11:59
Jennifer, in regard to your first comment, I still am not sure what you are talking about. I don’t know if you are talking about a personal experience with her or something in her book.
Your second comment: I am so sorry you had to go through what you did concerning your mother. That must have been horrendeous. But I am so very glad things worked out for her. God is merciful!
Nov 30, 2009 @ 14:27:18
I would like to share this with you… It may seem long, but I guess I should give it a go… It’s insperational..to get you back on track.. Real life story!!
As a young child… I guess… I grew up in a really unstable home. My mom was mentally ill she had OCD. She always wanted to commit suicide, drink pills… and my dad drank at night, but never harmed anyone… I was the type of child, pretty, blonde hair- CUTE… loved them, but had a hate for my dad… I thought he was always the blame for everything. Eventually my gran died in 2006 when I was in grade 6… On a monday I think… My dad and my moms stress levels were high and they were fighting again…
My mom got depressed because you see… my mom didn’t like my dads mom and she had been sick in hospital… Died in hospital… but any how..the night before friday.. I asked my mom if she would ever do anything to harm herself and she said no… She was sick…
I had music practice at 4 in the afternoon on a friday! I still had time to practice at home before I left my mom and the maid at home. My mom came out of her room, cring again and she asked me where my dad was… I told her he was in town and she went back to her room…Before I could play the next note I heard a loud gun shot! From her room… I knew she shot herself… I didn’t pray… but I called my dad… he was at the Liqour store…again! I ran outside… I stayed there. My dad got there and went to their room. He said, when he got there she was lying on the floor.. he ripped her top open and all he saw was blood on her chest. The ambulance came, it was all so shocking… I didn’t want a hug from anyone. The next day we got news that another mans life was saved because of my mom.
A man the previous night had heart problems and needed to be flowen to another hospital with my mom… He couldn’t go alone without another critical passenger and the next day he walked out the hospital alive.
The docters said my mom should be dead but she wasn’t! They told my dad that the bullet turned inside of her. She aimed for the heart but it moved around her heart. We were shocked, God saved her life and anothers… all we needed was patience! she’s still alive. She had found God, found healing in the form of medication that works for her and got divorced from my dad.
I want to say that… why don’t you believe in something that is good if you know it’s good? If you don’t believe it’s good .. it’s not good… and thats the end of the story.. no need to have a debate about it.
Thank you…
Mar 16, 2012 @ 22:49:11
Believing in God is good. Others may disagree. Some may think believing in satan is good. Sacrificing humans to some is deemed good. However, scripture says that in the Last Days men will call evil “good” and call good “evil”. We see that. I read that abortions will be through infants AFTER birth, I do not know the age. The mother can see if she really wants the baby and if not, it can be murdered, depends on the age. That is cruelty in the extreme and beyond as is abortion to me anyway no matter what age or the reason. There is a bill ready for this. After that it may be the elderly, the sick, the disabled just like Nazi Germany. They already are blaming Christians for the problems of the world, they want to do away with the Bible for it is causing problems and bills are ready for this. Many do not want to believe these things but did you know that Christians are the most persecuted people in the world? In the M.E. one can be murdered for becoming a Christian. In many countries they are killed. God is good. Man is not good. Christians are on the Red List, the highest group to be taken and killed immediately in the New World Order. Look it up. There were 40,000 bills in the Health Bill that was signed and many of them have been implemented. We shall soon learn these things for ourselves. Of course, the people do not know what they are as Nancy Pelosi said, we have to pass this bill so we can know what is in it. We are all about to find out. The agenda for the New World Order is to bring the population down to a manageable 500 million from 6 1/2 billion. There are some who deem this a good thing, others disagree.
Nov 17, 2012 @ 18:04:07
hello, i found out about new world order this year. it was such a huge shock ! are humankind that evil! but then i saw many interviews with people who exposed Rockerfellers, Rotschilds etc., they are all evil.
We Christians are soon to disappear! I pray God delievers many people form this trap of satan! God bless <3
Nov 30, 2009 @ 16:33:08
I strongly believe Choo’s book is a total deception, and Choo’s not alone. Different authors even reveal the view of hell. Usually these writers told us about seeing people they know either in heaven or being tortured in hell. My big question is: how come anyone already found their place in the judgement even BEFORE the judgement day?
Dec 01, 2009 @ 01:35:50
I just wanted to say thank you for expressing truth by sticking to the inerrent, solid, and truthful WORD of GOD! God still talks to people today in visions, dreams, and life experiences, but not in fairy-tale type stories that are far fetched from the truth of His word! One has to ask and seek the real purpose of a message (testing the spirits) to see if they are in line with what God has to say! If someone really spent the time to read and meditate on the Bible, knowing scripture cannot be broken, one will see how a loving God has been reaching out to man for thousands of years to become flesh Himself to save us from ALL sin. His grace is sufficient (2Cor.12:9). Jesus loves to perfect His power in our weaknesses. Another words, Jesus loves us, suffered and died for us, and then rose to be glorified and by this his power was made perfect in the midst of our weaknesses! He proved that he is God in the flesh and that the work He did for us is sufficient to save us! But satan loves to destroy that idea and will try anything to go against the grace of God, why? Because he himself loves to be worshipped! That’s his number one goal! If we can save ourselves by our own good works and obedience then who are we really trusting in? Christ’s grace or our own powers? Choo’s ideas of non-obediant Christians not entering heaven and hanging out in a deserted area for eternity is not ever disclosed in scripture and makes no sense with God’s reasoning. In fact, it breaks God’s words that His grace is sufficient! God knew we are bent on backsliding and will always be disobediant, even if we are Billy Graham, and that’s why there was no other way for salvation but through the cross! Choo’s book creates confusion, depression, anxiety, guilt, wierdness, a salvation through unbiblical means, a violent God by shaking her body, an unhealthy marriage, pride and arrogance in one’s self or her, and misleading people to the real love of Jesus! Jesus told us many will come in His name claiming they are the Christ and will say “the time is near”, but Jesus gives us 4 precious words found in Luke 21:8, “Do not follow them.”
Mar 16, 2012 @ 22:30:48
Amen! to your comments.
Dec 02, 2009 @ 01:21:17
jos, great question. My only thing with that is I am not sure when judgement day is for each individual. Is it THE day we die or is it one off into the distance for all of mankind at the same time? I just am not sure when that takes place. I kind of believe it is when we die as the Word says, “to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.” Is that for judgement or is that already with Him after Him after judgment?
Dec 02, 2009 @ 01:32:00
Dean, THANK YOU for sharing and being able to clarify the truth better than I on this subject. God bless you!
Dec 07, 2009 @ 03:11:42
Whoever u are @Redeemedhippies,may the Lord bless u & grant u more wisdom & grace.Through this blog,my confusion about Choo’s accounts have been cleared.The Devil would do just anything to make true believers to miss heaven.Please pray with me for those that have been sincerely deceived,to come to the light of God’s word.Thank you & remain blessed.
Dec 07, 2009 @ 14:06:32
Eze, God bless you and may God continue to shed His light and His truth in every area of your life. May you be a light and a witness to the truth among those you know. Continue to test all things, friend.
Dec 11, 2009 @ 19:33:01
With all due respect to you reedemedhippiesplace, you have several blogs devoted to Obama bashing, but I don’t see anything similar devoted to Bush even though Bush has explicitly endorsed universalist doctrine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_8GoF9SLas). Besides, I don’t know any Scripture that allows you to tell a professing Christian that they are not truly a Christian; it advises us to warn fellow Christians about their errors (as we allow ourselves to be judged as well), but it never permits us to condemn them as non-believers. Yet like most right-wingers, you have judged Obama and condemned him at the white throne judgement as a non-Christian. If I’m not mistaken, it appears you have even called him the Anti-Christ.
I found this website while googling around trying to find some “Christlike” commentary that would offer some balance on the book. Seems to me, the “Christlike” approach would be to accept the parts of the book that are of God, and reject the parts that are not. After all, it’s a book written by a human being; automatically that makes it prone to error. So the fact that there are errors in the book does not necessarily mean that her vision was not from God. Yes, we should test everything to see if it is from God; and perhaps the book does contain things that are not truly from God. But I don’t know of any book written by a human being that is inerrant. There are parts of the book that definitely glorify Jesus. I can reject the parts of the book that contradict Scripture and still appreciate the fact that God will use anything to bring people to repentance, and if it takes a book like this to draw people to God and Scripture then so be it. (You ought to judge by the fruit – is it bringing people to Christ? Is it saving souls? Is it creating a desire to study the Word of God and draw closer to Jesus?)
Dec 12, 2009 @ 13:57:46
Lania,
I am aware of Bush’s beliefs and have info on him:
http://redeemedhippiesplace.wordpress.com/2009/09/04/new-world-order-puppets-from-bush-to-obama-9309/
I also have a video exposing his beliefs somewhere on the blog, but can not find it.
Are his “christian” beliefs wrong? Yes.
But, he is no longer president and I still stand behind my beliefs on Obama is an anti-christ. When did George Bush appoint czars that wanted to steal the children and teach them wicked sex acts?
http://redeemedhippiesplace.wordpress.com/2009/12/10/alert-parents-obamas-school-czar-is-a-disgusting-vile-man-who-wants-to-teach-your-children-his-disgusting-vile-ways/
Look at his other czars: http://redeemedhippiesplace.wordpress.com/category/obamas-czars/ and tell me which ones are god like. The truth is these people think they ARE God!
Only the ungodliest of the ungodly could do such a thing. Not to mention his pretense of Christianity.
http://redeemedhippiesplace.wordpress.com/2009/09/01/the-coming-new-age-one-world-religion-1/
If Jesus tells us that not all who say “Lord, Lord” will enter heaven, then who are you or I to automatically trust everyone to be a christian if they say they are? You contradicted yourself; you didn’t like me questioning about Choo Thomas of and Obama, yet you turned right around and questioned Bush. Hmmm. Now that is a little hypocritical. You have every right to question anything you want such as I do. But don’t judge me for doing the same thing you do.
The “fruit” is the teaching. If the fruit stinks (and Choo Thomas’s fruit does) then it leads to a false jesus. Therefore, she has not led anyone to the real Jesus but to an imposter.
“I can reject the parts of the book that contradict Scripture and still appreciate…”
This leads me to believe you yourself see falseness in her book. And if so, good. But maybe there are others who do not have that much discernment.
“the “Christlike” approach would be to accept the parts of the book that are of God, and reject the parts that are not.”
No, the christlike approach is to warn of deceptions and lies. Where are we told in the Word it is ok to chew and swallow some things as truth while trying not to swallow the lies? We are told a little leaven ruins the whole thing. I don’t waste my time with leaven and if I see it I don’t want it. It only takes a tiny dose of poison in kool-aid to make a person sick or kill them.
You say the book glorifies Jesus. If the book is false, if the visions are not from God, if there are lies — then it is NOT the real Jesus.
Beware. Great deceptions are coming upon the earth in these last days and if you swallow everything coming at you, you WILL be deceived.
I still stand behind my views; Obama is an anti-christ and Choo Thomas is a deceiver.
Dec 15, 2009 @ 07:26:53
Hey Hippie,
I’ve never read the book. Does it say that Jesus told Choo how to cast the devil out of herself? If so, that’s bizarre. If she is born again she simply should obey Jesus and not obey the devil, and he will flee.
Dec 15, 2009 @ 14:03:44
ian, I don’t know the answer to that. I’ve never ead the book either. I don’t know if that was something in the book, in the video or if the person was asking a question for themselves.
Jan 04, 2011 @ 18:43:58
@redeemedhippiesplace
Then I’m surprised to see such words coming from you if you haven’t read it yourself.
Jan 04, 2011 @ 22:31:46
Himbeallglory, I do not have to dig through a garbage dump to find a pearl. Just that simple. I have given more than enough evidence with the few posts I have put up that Choo Thomas is a fake, a fraud, a deceiver. Why do you cling to delusions? Do your ears itch that much? You like smooth words to the point you do not care if they are truth or not? If you comment again, try to say something a little more unique. I am not wasting my time with those of you who will not look at the facts. Continue to keep your frogs if you like. But don’t get mad at those of us who can see through Choo Thomas lies and deceptions.
Mar 16, 2012 @ 20:54:50
I love the answers you give others as you lift up our Lord and the Word which are One. People seem to love this book by Choo Thomas because they love fairy tales. Unfortunately it is not true and if one knows scripture it is easy to know the difference. No book can be compared to the Word of God, no other book can tell us what it can. It is alive. If one wants to know God and learn about Him go to His WORD for it is the only way. We do not point people to any one’s book, not Choo’s either. There is no comparison. The Word and our Lord are One. Scripture says even if an angel from Heaven comes and tells you another way or adds to or takes away from scripture do not hear them. Why not find Him through the Word? She makes many claims that she is writing His End Time Book, NO, His Word is His ONLY BOOK. This is very sad. satan can claim he has seen God and has spent time with him and it does not make what he says truth, he always mixes some truth in. This woman is deceived and needs prayer. It sounds to me many are placing her book and Choo herself above scripture and that is dangerous. Anyone can be led astray, anyone can claim they have been to Heaven and seen Him or have dreams and visions, all are not from God although they say they are. You will not go wrong with the Word of God, you very well may be deceived reading other books no matter how good they may sound. Why put someone’s book above Scripture? At the very least pray about it. God loves everyone and everyone is special to Him. You are loved. You are important. You matter. Grow in the knowledge of the Word for it will not fail you, the words of men may fail no matter how pretty they may seem. No matter how many other books you read they will never compare to the Word of God. There is nothing like the Word of God and what our Lord did on Calvary matters. His Blood is pure and clean and He saves. No one else can, no one’s book has the answer. You answer well those who come here and say things which make us ask what were they thinking? Thank you for speaking up about this! I understand a movie is being made of this book. I do not understand those who follow this woman and disregard the Bible or put it in second place. I am amazed that so many are taken with this woman and her book. Fall in love with our Lord and His Word and not with Choo and her book. Scripture tells us God is REAL and Heaven is Real. We should always be guided by the Word of God and nothing else. Love God. Serve Him. We are to always lift Him up and you do that here on your website. What is wrong with the Word of God, what is lacking that another book need be written and that is her claim. THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS. I pray people will wake up. He is coming soon for His Bride. You can not follow Choo and Christ. You must choose Christ alone. He is a jealous God. All praise and worship belongs to God alone, He will not share.
Dec 19, 2009 @ 07:25:59
im about to start readin the book.the whole family has read it en wow my sis is changing.shes afraid to do the little thns she used to do like sing in her band,go dancing e.t.c
I just thnk that if someone wants to get closer to God it should be for love en not fear of thns to come…coz thnthat would be false.
Anyway im scared to raed it bt i will.
Dec 19, 2009 @ 14:20:54
melissa, why read the book if you know something is wrong with it? If you decide to go ahead and do it, then ask God to show you his truth, ask Him to make you uncomfortable with anything that is a lie, ask Him to lead you. Whatever you do, do not try and read it if you are not familair with the true Word of God.
Dec 24, 2009 @ 09:08:24
jesus say in luke 18:8b However, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?”it is so sad how we look for truth when the truth is near us.in hebrew paul say jesus-christ is the same yesterday ,today and forever.
he is the same God who spoke to abraham,the same who appear to moses in the bush ,the same who walked with joshua ,the same who appear to gideon,the same who was with david and so many of our heroes in the bible.let us just have faith in God and begin to ask him what we want to know.believe me church God can speak and he still do,if we are just willing to hear. he is the one who said call unto to me,he is the one who said i love those who seek me and those who seek me find me,he is the one who say he who ask receive and to finish he is the one who said put your trust in me.HAVE FAITH CHILDREN OF THE MOST HIGH.FOR WE ARE TOLD NOT TO LEAN ON OUR OWN UNDERSTANDING BUT TO ACKNOWLEDGE HIM IN ALL OUR WAYS.THE GOD WHO SPOKE TO ABRAHAM IS ABLE TO SPEAK TO YOU ,JUST HAVE FAITH.Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.What was from the beginning, what we have heard, what we have seen with our eyes, what we have looked at and touched with our hands, concerning the Word of Life–STAY BLESSED
Dec 24, 2009 @ 09:22:18
ROSS I HAVE TO DAUGHTERS THAT I LOVE AND JUST BECAUSE I LOVE THEM I HAVE TO PUNISH THEM WHEN THEY DO WRONG AND SINCE I AM THEIR MOTHER THEY HAVE TO FEAR ME SO THAT THEY DONT DO THE THING THAT WILL MAKE THEM REGRET ONE DAY .PERFECT LOVE DRIVE OUT ALL FEAR ,YOUR SISTER HAS JUST BEGAN TO SEE HOW SHE HAS A HEAVENLY FATHER WHO LOVE HER .THE FEAR OF THE LORD IS THE BEGINNING OF WISDOM..MAY YOUR SISTER AND YOUR FAMILY AND YOU AS WELL BE BLESSED AS YOU WALK IN THE FEAR OF GOD.
HAVE FAITH IN GOD,HE IS IN HIS SOUVEREIGN CONTROL.TRUST
Dec 29, 2009 @ 20:59:39
I have mixed feelings about what Choo Nam says for a couple of reasons: 1. She describes in her mansion a bedroom and a bed. Revelation tells us there will be no night and as Spiritual beings we will live in an eternal state of “now” since there is no time and unlike human bodies, we will not get tired. The purpose of sleep is to recharge our batteries when our energy level runs down and of course, as spiritual beings we will be perpetual energy that never runs down and thus a bed and bedroom will not be needed. That seems to be a very important point that needs to be considered. 2. Her comments about different eternal areas in heaven for so called believers – disobedient or unbelieving is not at all supported by scripture. You are either a born again believer or you are not. There is no such thing as a “sort of” believer that fits in between born again believer and nonbeliever.
I think the scriptures support pretty strongly a pretrib rapture and I sure hope she’s right about that but all the Lord wants us to do is be ready and live a life that pleases Him. The Lord never sees a crowd. He only sees one person at a time. There is an old saying – to the world I am nobody but to Somebody I am the world. Maranatha, Lord Jesus!
Dec 29, 2009 @ 22:42:21
Rooster, you make very good observations. Don’t let your feelings be “mixed.” That is unless you are willing to dig around and try to find a pearl in a garbage dump. Hate to sound so harsh, but isn’t that what it is? Jesus warned of us the leaven. I don’t believe he said anything about digging around trying to find the “good.” The devil will always mix in a little truth to get us to swallow the whole package, if not that, then to just to somehow make excuses for heretics and their false teachings. You sound like you are on the right path by questioning her teachings. Let me encourage you by saying, stay on it!
Be blessed brother!
Jan 04, 2010 @ 00:13:40
I’ve been reading several articles claiming Choo’s book is deceiving us. I don’t understand what the harm is if this book is bringing ppl closer to Jesus? I don’t think anyone reads her book and treats it like the Bible, her impact has not been THAT direct. The majority of what I get from people’s testimony’s are that it enriches their faith and encourages them to return to church and work towards bettering their relationship with the Lord. I just want more concrete examples of how this book is harming ppl’s walk.
Jan 04, 2010 @ 16:31:51
Lacey, to stray from the truth will eventually lead to a great deception. Something may appear to be of God, it may appear to be enriching lives even, but…it still leads one to ask WHAT Jesus is something leading people to? She has said her book was an endtime book meant for every christian to read. THAT alone is enough for me to know it is a lie. God gave us the Bible. That is not enough?
She says Jesus said, “He is giving people a chance to know what it takes to enter His Kingdom through this book. Remember, none of our salvations are secure until the end. We must do our best while we have a chance.”
Really? That is true? Well, I for one do not want to follow her jesus if that is true. I say her “jesus” is a liar and a deceiver. We need her book to know how to enter heaven? No, I think not.
Choo Thomas is a woman greatly deceived or/and a great deceiver.
Jan 05, 2010 @ 19:06:50
The scripture is clear and the word of God is clear, i think the purpose behind the book is to help the world know that heaven exists and that we are living in the end time, Believe the book or not, the lord is coming soon, I think you should spend more of your time telling the world to repent and change from evil rather than picking out errors u found in a book, i think everyone deserves heaven, help tell people how to get there!!!!…Thats wat u should be doing!
Jan 05, 2010 @ 22:38:36
Kelly, every time someone comes across as angry as you do, I KNOW what I do is right. As your anger is unjustified. All I am doing is warning people of CT’s different Jesus. She has been proven a liar and a deceiver. Yet, you attack me for telling others of her false teachings.
I know the Lord is coming soon. I do not need books written by New Age liars to prove that to me. Part of the evil I warn others of is the evils of false teachings that create a jesus in an abominable image. How about you going back and rereading everything that has been said of her and THEN try to honestly defend it. You can not because she has been exposed. She has added to the Word of God.
Instead of you telling me what you think I need to be doing, here is a suggestion for you; how about you stop being so wishy washy about your sugar coated religion and warn people that if they follow a false jesus, that will take them straight to hell.
IF you think scripture is clear and the Word of God is clear, then why do you not test this book???? Because that is exactly what the Word tells us to do. It really is very clear. But you have muddied up your vision because somewhere you are believing a lie that feels too good to you.
Jan 05, 2010 @ 23:33:47
Hi Redeemedhippie
I see you linked to an article of mine, thanks. Was looking at your blog and saw this article on Choo. Here is one I wrote back in Dec 07. But then took my blog down due to some unforseen circumstances. Anyhow I am back and my article is back online here:
Choo Thomas – Heaven is so Real – Is it Really? http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2009/10/27/choo-thomas-%e2%80%93-heaven-is-so-real-%e2%80%93-is-it-really
Thank you
Deborah
Jan 06, 2010 @ 01:37:27
Hello Discerning. Your article has been a godsend to many people! I went out and checked out your new link. Like I said, you have done some homework! Great job. Info on CT has been hard to find. So glad you are out there!
Jan 07, 2010 @ 01:50:23
When someone tells you they saw beds in heaven, then you know they are imagining that. Then, how could the vision be partly true and partly her imagination? We would be stupid to accept anything she says about her vision knowing that she is adding her own imaginations into it.
It’s a bad joke to say there a beds in heaven. As if you could ever get tired there.
She also talks about going fishing in heaven. What are they going to do with the fish when they catch it? Nothing there can die, there is no death ????? If there are fish in heaven then they can’t die.
It’s stupid. And its so sad there are so many stupid Christians who don’t have the Godly intelligence to know.
Jan 08, 2010 @ 14:01:23
Ian, haha! You are right. I wonder how many will look at your comment and STILL continue to follow this delusion? Truth is; some people just want to believe a lie.
Jan 09, 2010 @ 04:30:29
Her book is not a lie…. No human could match up the intelligence of God. Why can’t we have beds in heaven? although we may not be tired, we can still rest right? Anyway, I think the book match to the revelation in the Holy Bible. The purpose Mrs. Choo Thomas write the book is to inform people about the end of time and what is needed to enter heaven. If you dont believe in Mrs. Choo Thomas, why didn’t you ask her your self? It’s true that the Almighty God gave us bible, but because of His great love, He gave Heaven is so real. I do not see the bad effect of this book. A lot of people turned to believe God after this book.
Jan 11, 2010 @ 14:30:56
Fanny, out of your own mouth you discredited CT when you said, “No human could match up the intelligence of heaven.” If that is true — and it is — then why do you blindly follow someone’s delusion? It is not a matter of “turning to God.” It is a matter of turning to WHICH god or WHAT god after reading this book. One in hopes that you too will have these “remarkable visitations?” One that will pick you for the next upcoming best seller? One that tells you, you alone are so special that you must worship up front? One that throws you around violently? That alone should be enough to tell anyone it is a false jesus. Jesus said, “I am gentle and lowly.” To make Him otherwise is heretical and creating a jesus in your image.
She says, “…He wants me to serve as living proof of the Bible and His prophecies, because many people do not believe what they read in the Bible.” This is adding to the Word of God. Which in Revelation we are told that those who add to the Word will be judged.
I suggest you go back and reread the article as I am not going to go through point by point with you. If you want the truth bad enough you will read for yourself, but you will not be able to discredit the truth presented here — only attack it.
Jan 11, 2010 @ 20:45:37
So, all we have to do is pray to Jesus so that He will give us the wisdom to discern whether Choo Thomas was really sent by God. There are gifts mentioned in the Bible, what if God really chose her?
and I think you’re just judging Choo Thomas based on some quotations from the book. I think if you are really passionate about it you should have at least read the book before broadcasting your “judgment”.
And if there are things that you find really “weird”, we must remember that there are things that are yet to be revealed to us when the right time comes.
God is the same yesterday, today, and forever…if He can send visions to Ezekiel long time ago, He can still do it today.
Let’s just pray to God for direction.
Jan 11, 2010 @ 23:00:42
Sarah, I did not need to buy the book. I don’t endorse heretics by buying their products. READ the above info. Why oh why do you –like so many others that have passed through here — long to cling to a delusion??? What ARE you getting out of it other than a feel good message? The truth is not in CT.
Honestly, I don’t know why I waste time trying to convince people like you of the lies.
Her visions do NOT line up with the truth.
As far as my “judgement” what gives you the right to judge me? Your opinion is a typical lop sided argument AND hypocritical to say the least.
SHOW me IN the WORD where any of us are obligated to believe something just because it is “new.” IF I am wrong (and I am not) then I have lost nothing and am in no danger. But if you are wrong, you open yourself up to greater delusions.
Jan 12, 2010 @ 02:28:14
Sarah,
Whether God chose Choo Thomas or not is not the real issue we need to know, rather, whether what she says contradicts the scriptures, and it does, therefore she is not telling the truth.
How can someone say the love God when they don’t care about what is true or not? That would be a fake love.
Jan 12, 2010 @ 03:09:29
Also:
Sarah, You are saying that one should ‘pray for wisdom’ about it.
When someone states something which contradicts scripture it would actually be foolish to pray for wisdom about it.
What if someone says that Jesus is a girl? Should we pray for wisdom to ascertain whether this is true or false?
Oct 09, 2010 @ 03:29:25
I’m with you all the way here Ian. When I first heard of Choo Thomas ( from a co-leader) I shook my head, after our conversation I looked into what her book said, I found it more like Kundalini & occult than Truth. We do not need to discern this, The Word itself is the decerner & it does not back her words.
Jan 12, 2010 @ 03:30:35
Ian, thank you for being able to convey the truth here in ways i just am not able to at the moment! Hopefully, Sara and others like her will see it and heed your words.
Jan 27, 2010 @ 13:49:29
What you are basically trying to do is to disregard the existence of Heaven(the Home of God of all) and hell.Because these two exist,one for the righteous(heaven)and one for the sinners.At the end of the day,Choo Thomas enlightens people that Jesus is real and the promise of eternal life with him is true,as long as we stand firm in salvation.
Please,stop misleading people into occultism.
Jan 28, 2010 @ 01:37:10
Clarice, you accuse me of disregarding heaven and hell. The spirit that speaks through you is a liar and a deceiver for you to even suggest such a thing. You accuse me of leading people in occultism? You are kidding, right? Take a good look, take a real good look at who and what you are endorsing. What part of the truth is it that you hate? You hate the truth, don’t you? You would rather go by the word of kooks and heretics than the pure unadultered Word of God.
You know nothing about discernment or you would have NEVER accused me of misleading people into the occult. I try to get them out of it. What do you do? You endorse occult practices with the likes of Choo Thomas. Go look up the word “occult” and THEN tell me I am the one using it. You would do well to get your eyes off CT and put them on the real Jesus and not the one who she has either LIED about or following the delusions Lucifer has given her. You do her no great service by helping her in her delusions.
You can try and sugar-coat it all you want, but anyone who desires the truth will see through her teachings eventually. I suggest you go back (that is IF you have the courage) and go read the post and tell me where it is wrong. Look at the comments from those who have been led out of her deception. If you can not do this, do not bother coming back. For the truth is not in you and you have no desire for it.
Keep on following CT’s visions, teachings and “jesus.” Keep on and a bigger delusion will come. When it does you will be well primed for it and, because you have no love for the truth, you will receive it unto yourself. Remember these words. You’ve been warned.
Jan 29, 2010 @ 01:37:59
“Well hello, Clarice”
Sorrrrry !!! couldn’t resist that one.
Clarice is a lovely name.
Jan 29, 2010 @ 05:49:36
Hi my name is Linda, I recently read the book Heaven is so Real and found it disturbing, because it didn’t match up with scripture. she mentions a third place for christians after they die. The bible clearly does not speak of such a thing. She doesn’t talk about God’s grace that’s why Jesus died . None of us are pure of heart only through Jesus can that happen. I always believe that satan what’s to cause doubt amongst christians to tell them they are not good enough and never will be. This trys to stop christians in their tracks, so they can’t go out and serve him because they are not good enough. After reading this book I came under some sort of oppression for about a week. I felt very anxious and doubts arose in my mind I had no peace. I prayed but It didn’t lift. On Sunday night I decided to go onto the internet and research this book. Once I did that and started reading what others had said, I felt an immediate lifting of this oppression. I had to leave to get my daughter and left the computer on. I ran out the front door we have two locks one is a deadlock which we don’t use no key in it. The other the bottom lock which you just put in. I was the last to leave my husband was waiting down stairs. We picked up my daughter, and went to come inside but the dead lock was locked from the inside this is impossible because it is never used. Lucky I had the key with me for the deadlock, so we could get in. I put this down to and attack from Satan just as I was feeling a lifting from this oppression this happened.
Jan 29, 2010 @ 06:07:13
Linda, I thank God that He was able to cause you to see the truth. You for one, are able to testify to others about CT and her occult teachings. May you be a light to many and help lead many many people out of her false teachings. It does sound like your experience was a blatant attack of the enemy, BUT GOD has shown Himself strong to you. Be a light, Linda. Be a light to those who refuse to test things. Warn them of the deception. God bless you and keep you always, sister!
Jan 29, 2010 @ 06:09:02
Ian, you are too funny!
Jan 31, 2010 @ 02:41:35
The spirit that speaks thru people like Choo speaks like this: You’ve read the Bible, right? Now put that away bcos i’m gonna tell you more than what’s in your Bible! Are your ears itching to hear more? Good. Then listen to me. First, ignore all that Jesus taught about heaven and hell, i will take you further into the hidden secrets…….
Jan 31, 2010 @ 12:53:24
Ian, you put it very simple AND TRUE! May others who pass by here see it. Wanting to see “hidden secrets” was what led me in the occult decades ago.
Jan 31, 2010 @ 16:46:09
redeemedhippie..thank you so much for this blog. I also read the book ‘heavenissoreal’ and was deeply disturbed. In fact all of those i knew that read it were confused and distressed. After reading this blog everything i read was confirmation in my heart God’s truth. We are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ NOT OF OURSELVES! We are conformed to the image of Christ through the WORK of the Holy Spirit not of ourselves.And God PROMISED to WORK in us to will and to do of His good pleasure.It is all of grace!We can never take credit for His working..but simply praise Him and be very thankful for His faithfulness.Satan sure know’s how to confuse this issue because the human heart wants praise and validation from men.One of the apostles said there would be a great falling away in the last days and we are seeing this. Thank you for this blog exposing these deceptions!
Jan 31, 2010 @ 17:05:51
Hannah, thank you for sharing. You have no idea what your exhortation meant for me at this time in my life. Thank you for reminding me of the grace of God. Your comments were very timely for me.
I am so very glad you were able to come out from the deception of CT. May you be a light to others who have been caught up in it and bring many to the Way, the Truth and the Life. May your words continue to impart grace to the hearers wherever they may be!
Feb 15, 2010 @ 13:59:58
out from this site, too many will really go to hell…Jesus is always true to His Words.
what is lacking in the people here of this blog is FAITH…before you make judgement, purify first your hearts so that our Lord can enter freely in your hearts and guide your thoughts if Choo is from Him or not, and do not be hypocrites…now, if our Lord Jesus will come down from Heaven right NOW, are you sure yuo gonna go with Him from the grace of salvation?
think, think my friends…
Feb 15, 2010 @ 21:36:34
jhun, Why will there many on this site who will go to hell? Because we dare question the teachings of Choo Thomas?
There have been many who have already tested her teachings and found them heretical. What part of that do you not get?
Who are YOU to dare question the motives, the intents and the hearts of those who use their brain and have tested the teachings of Choo? Your pride and self- righteousness, as much as you believe is some redeeming quality that separates you from the rest of us, is repugnant. You desire for others to have faith in Choo. Please show me in the Word of God where we are called to have faith in her teachings. Please show me where in the WORD of God where are we are told to submit to teachings that go against the Word of God.
You are correct in one thing — Jesus is ALWAYS true to his Word. He said that in the last days false prophets, teachers and “christs” would arise. He said to test all things. So in knowing this, I prefer to put my trust in Him and Him alone. Not in so-called visions of deceivers. You think. Think hard.
Feb 16, 2010 @ 14:37:52
jhun, you are very presumptious and WRONG.
Redeemed Hippie, the owner of this blog site, and people like me who come here DO HAVE FAITH. Our faith is in the Holy Bible which is whole truth and it bears no resemblance to Choo Thomas’s imagination about Heaven. The bible actually tells us very little about Heaven, and what it does state, Choo has just copied as her own ‘vision’.
And for the record, I pray daily for the Lord Jesus to ‘purify my heart’ as no-one has a pure heart, not even you jhun. God told me immediately that Choo Thomas was a fraud (yes, I read her book) and the only true thing Choo said in that book was that she was going to be rich.
RH, keep on blogging for God himself IS your guide and you are appreciated for speaking out the truth boldly.
Feb 16, 2010 @ 20:54:16
signet, thank you brother! Your timing could not have been better! You be blessed now and for always!
Feb 16, 2010 @ 21:16:03
Redeemed Hippie I am a sister actually
(signet is a nickname) and I have great respect for you as I have followed your site for some time. Be blessed and re-assured even when the enemy seeks to undermine you. If he (satan) left you alone, that would be something to question, but you are a threat to him sister, so STAY BOLD and know you are pleasing the only person that really matters, JESUS CHRIST – AND HIM CRUCIFIED – HALLELUIA!
Feb 16, 2010 @ 22:00:15
Signet, always good to meet a brother OR sister! Haha! Sorry, I thought all this time you were a “he.” I guess it is because of your asservativeness, which is greatly appreciated on this blog from anyone who uses their brain.
I am glad you are one of them. You are welcome here anytime. Do you have a blog I am not aware of?
Feb 17, 2010 @ 23:29:17
Hi RH no worries, to be honest when I first came across your
regular comments on ETPW I thought YOU were a fella until it became obvious you were not
No I do not have a blog site, and only started blogging when I first saw Todd Bentley in April 2008 and was compelled to google his name out of sheer horror. My husband and I (he IS a fella – ahaha) were shocked to discover just how far the false teaching had spread, but also quite relieved because we had been ostracised for questioning……..I guess you know exactly how the story goes. Anyway, we do love your site and pop in often. Thanks for YOUR encouragement also RH, it is God’s requirement for christians to encourage one another in ALL TRUTH, Amen?
Feb 18, 2010 @ 13:57:47
Signet, TB is what got me blogging too and the apostate movement had shocked me also. It’s kind of odd, isn’t it? We will never be the same. To actually see it unfolding before our very eyes and few seem to be testing things. But I am ALWAYS thankful when there are those who will. And I rejoice when I see one come out from the whore and into the truth. I pray God uses you, Signet and your husband wherever you are, to help open up blind eyes and speak the truth in setting the captives free. Love you, sister.
Feb 28, 2010 @ 22:21:04
Very interesting to read all these comments because God wants us to test the spirits. I was afraid of reading this site because I have been believig but with doubts what Thomas revelations say. The doubts were subtle. but now they cause me concern. At times I felt she lacks continous annointing of the holy spirit in her revelations. for example she came into a huge white building and inside the room it looked Mysterious?. the decorations on the walls made the room look mysterious? why mysterious? What truth was hidden? I hope to know the whole truth in Jesus name Amen.
Mar 01, 2010 @ 02:52:30
Ishmael,yes God does want us to test things. Unfortunately there are thoose who would tell you that if you test something, you are grieving the Holy Spirit. Never be afraid to test something. We are not to put our trust in those with their “new” revelations. The Word of God will NEVER lead us astray. If something does not line up with the Word of God or the character of Jesus, then it is not the truth. God will be the One to lead you into His truth. Not Choo Thomas, not me, not anyone but Jesus. Keep your eyes on Him and stay in His Word. He is the only One you can trust 100 percent. God bless you.
Mar 21, 2010 @ 19:10:10
Hello Redeemedhippies,
I am disturbed how you can criticized Choo without having to read her book at all. How about if people making judgment about you and not having to get to know you first. Or mis-quote you. Or make judgement about you without doing research themselves. You already brand her a heretic before you even read her book just because you get quote from other people.
I am writing this to you is not to argue about whether Choo is a heretic or not. I am writing this because you have violate the protocol. You fail to research about your opponent’s argument before you attack them. If you say that her book is a heretic at least read it yourself. If you don’t want to read you have no right to make judgment.
Mar 17, 2012 @ 13:28:19
Just want to share what is disturbing to me and that is those who claim they are believers running after other teachings that are not of God. IF one truly knows Him and the Word they will not run after such teachings as in Choo’s book for they will KNOW THE TRUTH. OUR LORD IS THE TRUTH, HIS WORD IS TRUTH. No other book can compare to the Word of God and those who do show forth their limited knowledge of scripture. That is very disturbing. They not only are wrong they are pointing others the wrong way as well. Some may very well miss Heaven because of their belief in this book. That is what is disturbing or should be. We are to stay in the Word so we will know how to live, how to give answer to others for it is clear by the many who follow Choo and her teachings in her book are not following Christ or His Word. You see they are not equal, nor does Choo’s book overtake the Word. I would get back in the Word and not lean unto my own understanding but in all my ways acknowledge Him and He shall direct my path. You can not grow from reading and believing the book of Choo. POINTING OTHERS TO THE WORD OF GOD IS NOT IN ERROR, IT IS SHAMEFUL TO DO SO. HE SPILLED HIS BLOOD FOR US, HE IS TO BE HONORED AS IS HIS WORD AND not the words of a man/woman. One can not compare the Word of God to any other book. That is not possible but many coming to this website defend Choo and her book but not scripture. What Christ did is greater and should not be mentioned among the books of men. We shall give answer, we shall give an account for every word we say and if we guide another down the wrong path we might be sending them away from Him and from Heaven.
Mar 17, 2012 @ 13:34:51
I left out a word and want to correct it here in my previous reply and I copy and paste that statement and correction here if I may: I said:
. POINTING OTHERS TO THE WORD OF GOD IS NOT IN ERROR, IT IS SHAMEFUL TO DO SO. HE SPILLED HIS BLOOD FOR US, HE IS TO BE HONORED AS IS HIS WORD AND not the words of a man/woman. One
What I meant to say was POINTING OTHERS TO GOD IS NOT IN ERROR, IT IS SHAMEFUL TO DO OTHERWISE….I am sorry I did not catch that before for certainly the Word is our guide and not any book any man/woman might write or anything a man/woman might say. I am very sorry for the error.
Mar 21, 2010 @ 20:15:00
Kyron, So, you are “disturbed?” Give me a break. Instead of being “disturbed” at me for exposing witchcraft in the church, you better be getting “disturbed” over the lies being taught within the church. I gave plenty of examples of the heresies this woman is teaching. You, like some others who pass through here do not want to look at the evidence presented. It is YOU who violates any “protocol” by NOT testing these things. But, alas, why would you? It is so much easier to believe every false prophet, false teacher and false preacher than to actually search a matter out. Be honest: YOU WERE TOO LAZY to read everything that was presented here. You would rather spend what little “courage” you have in attacking someone who has a desire for truth.
CHOO THOMAS violated PROTOCOL when she decided she could/would create a jesus in her image. She is part of the whore who pretends to be the Bride of Christ.
I researched her enough. I said it more than once: I do NOT buy books of heretics and help prop up their ministries, teachings or their finances. WHAT PART OF THAT DO YOU NOT GET? You are just one of many who in these last days are going to go further into delusions because you do not test things. You have been warned!
Apr 09, 2010 @ 20:45:30
Redeemed Hippy, You are a breath of fresh air. We have this long-running thread going over at Rapture in the Air (RITA). Several of us have tried and tried to expose Thomas for what she is: a heretic, and it seems minds are made up.
I’m at my wit’s end. And I’ve come up against one of the moderators, too: “So all the saved by her witness is false, and are ending up in satan’s camp? I believe the opposite, Choo is not serving satan as her master.
Jesus is capable of judging, and Choo knows she’ll stand before Him, I say leave her alone.
Taking time to know the Holy Spirit and fellowshiping with Jesus is better time spent.
Choo acknowledges Jesus Christ as her Lord and Saviour and the Saviour of the world. The devil hates that. The fake religions deny the deity of Christ.
Thank God there is only one perfect Judge.
Choo gives praise and honor to Jesus, the Name of above all names, the devil hates that.
Her book has been read by many, and her witness has brought millions to seek Jesus the true God and Savior,. . . that’s a huge loss in satan’s camp.” Those are samples of what we’re up against, and that from a mod. (Wishing you were there to help us out.)
Apr 09, 2010 @ 23:25:52
Bob, sorry you all are going through so much trying to convince people of the truth. What it boils down to is this: People have their idols and they love their idols. The thing about Choo and her “jesus” is He is not the REAL Jesus. Satan does not mind if she uses the name of Jesus. Not at all. Everywhere, people are creating God in their own image. Choo and those who follow her teachings are creating him in their image. People ahave this warped idea that if one can merely even say the name “Jesus” then they must be ok. BUT you have to see what kind of Jesus they are talking about and more than enough in the case of false teachers, they have created a jesus to fit their teachings. Hey, it sells books, right? Anyone can come up with some strange teaching and wa la, you have the latest “christian” book filling the bookstores. I’m afraid i wouldn’t be much good over there. People have their minds made up in defending their idols. Some times it is best just to walk away.
Apr 17, 2010 @ 23:41:09
People of God, I am not here to argue or defend Choo, I wan t us to talk. First of all, I am readin the book now and I think the question u people should ask is this..”what exactly is the theme of -Heaven is so Real-? Because most of the things you condemn Choo’s book for are not actually the key focus of the book.
Just because of you who didn’t read it, the theme is a wake-up call to comfortable Christians/unbelievers who just think they will be raptured by sayin they are saved by grace, and yet do little or nothing to seek God. Jeremiah 29:13 “And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.”
The summary I got from this book (as well as other friends) is that We must know Jesus and He must know us if we will make Heaven, and without a constant relationship with HIM, this wont happen (according to Choo). I watched the DVD, at the end of it, She made a call for viewers to pray a prayer of salvation, afterwards she told them to study their “BIBLE” and pray many times daily. She didn’t recommend any other book or source that can lead us to Jesus except the Bible. Indeed a part of the testimony feels kind of funny, but this part isn’t where we shud pay our attention, rather leave it till we get to heaven to find out since it’s not the central theme of the book.
You call her a false prophet, how do u know a false prophet? “By their fruit” many people i know who read this book practically repented and started to leave for Jesus truly. I think this is a good fruit. And this woman didnt teach doctrine in anyway, she only preached that our DESIRE FOR CHRIST shud be above all things and followed by CONSTANT-RELATIONSHIP with HIM is the start of our journey to Heaven.
In conclusion, Bible is our ultimate standard, and Choo has not said otherwise. Grace of God be with u all.
Apr 24, 2010 @ 11:51:04
Emmy, Please be honest. You ARE here to defend Choo Thomas.
You even admit there are parts of the testimony that feels “funny.” Saying we should not focus our attention on that. Yet, if the root of something is bad, then it’s fruit is bad also. Please go back and read everything posted. There are plenty of examples of CT being a false teacher. It is just a matter of you wanting to know and accept the truth or not in spite of feelings.
Apr 29, 2010 @ 07:54:03
I think if we are honest and open minded, it is very difficult to believe that a false prophet, deception, satan, or whatever you call it, can write such a profound biblical based book that can bring us closer to our Lord Jesus. I read this book months ago. But I get closer to Jesus,fear the Lord and love Him even more, pray more often, study the Bible more seriously, become more exicted for the things of God, and be more merciful to sinners ever since I read the book. It is really hard for me to believe that satan can do such a wonderful thing. You don’t mean that nowadays satan do the opposite things, preach the Gospel to bring people to repentance and live for God seriously, while we, who claim to be “Christian,” fall asleep and ruin our fellow Christian by hateful debate, do you? I think we may not a priori beforehand for the sake of certain doctrine if we really love the truth.
Mar 16, 2012 @ 22:14:16
Please pray tell where is the Biblical proof in her book that tells us this book is from God? Her claims are not in scripture. She calls His Blood filthy. It is not defiled, it is clean, pure and holy. He does not need an End Time Book. The Bible was it. On the cross He said IT IS FINISHED. Scripture says not to add to or take away from the Bible. It is the Word of God, you grow reading it. Not so from Choo’s book. NONE of her prophecies have come to pass. Everyone who claims they have been to Heaven, have seen Jesus, have dreams/visions have not. They have been deceived and they then deceive others which is what Choo is doing. She obviously believes this. It is amazing the people who opt for Choo over Christ and the Bible. Spend your time in scripture, if her book is causing you to believe in her book you have a problem. ASK GOD ABOUT IT, WAS CALVARY NOT ENOUGH, HE NEEDED CHOO NOW? Certainly not. You must choose one or the other, you can not choose both. The Word of God is alive, it alone saves. Choo’s book can save no one. Think about it. PRAY ABOUT IT, ASK GOD WHO WILL TELL YOU THE TRUTH. I COULD WEEP AT SOME OF THE COMMENTS I HAVE READ HERE. I believe Choo loves God and our Lord but she is deceived. Others reading her book are also being deceived. If you study the Word you will know the difference. There is no comparison.
Mar 21, 2012 @ 15:11:41
I want to correct something here. What I mean by everyone who has dreams/visions have not all been to Heaven or seen our Lord as claimed, some have while others are deceived. Just because someone claims they have been to Heaven or they have seen the Lord does not make it true. satan can deceive many and many are deceived in these Last Days. WE ARE TO TEST THE SPIRITS. I have seen some accept every one who makes the claim they have been to Heaven or they have seen the Lord and believes them over what scripture says. The Bible is very clear, if an angel from Heaven comes to us telling us other than what is in the Bible do not listen to them. Adding to or taking from scripture has dire consequences. Read it for yourself. It is sure thing we can trust scripture but we can not trust in what men say, we have the Bible so we can learn the truth by study and learning what the Word says so that we will not be deceived. Be careful whom you hear and whom you believe.
Apr 29, 2010 @ 10:01:09
Hi everyone,
I came across this webpage out of curiosity actually. I did read Choo’s book but I did not read and digest it as I would read a Bible. Neither will I comment and judge if her book is ‘right’ or ‘wrong’ for it is not my place judge anyone but God’s… so cheers everyone!
Apr 30, 2010 @ 23:14:32
Jonathan, I have been open and honest along with those who have commented on this article. It is you who are not honest. You have refused to look at the evidence. You have chosen to believe a lie. There is more than enough proof with the article above and the comments to prove it. You have decided to follow a jesus created in Choo’s image. Do you actually think when the devil comes to deceive he comes with a tail, horns and pitchfork? You continue to follow her and when she tells you “jesus says” or “here is jesus, over here,” you like so many others, will fall further into deception. You do not love the truth. If you did, you would not have flippantly overlooked the info that is on this post. Did you even bother to read anything? No, you did not.
Apr 30, 2010 @ 23:15:40
Jackie, but you did judge. Your sanctimonious way of refusal to call something either right or wrong, shows where you stand. You have insinuated that those of us who judge a teaching are wrong. You have refused to test things, and somehow you feel justified and maybe a little “better” than those of us who ARE testing things. You are an appeaser of the worst sort. God calls it lukewarm.
May 01, 2010 @ 14:18:17
It is indeed interesting to read all the comments here! I have read this book and quite honestly, I think nothing of it. Like any other book, it is a story.. her story, and one can choose to believe it or not.. i.e. Da Vinci Code… Angels and Demons etc. One can choose to debunk the book or not, it is up to you and your faith. I choose to not comment, and being a Christian myself it is best to leave it to God to decide for one day, we will ALL be judged. Who are we to decide?? Like it is mentioned in the bible… “Let those who have NOT sinned cast the first stone…’. Moreover, I know a lot of people who have converted to christianity after they have read this book and are now fervently reading the bible… now, is the act of reading the bible is what satan wants us to do?! I dont think so.
May 01, 2010 @ 16:12:56
The world will be a better place to live in if only people will spend more time praying then trying to debunk a book that really isnt a ‘bible’. I find it really disturbing that people, like the blog owner, can actually have a ‘holier then thou’ attitude. Sad indeed. Anyway, no use arguing… a blog owner can and will say whatever he or she wants…
Mar 16, 2012 @ 22:01:29
How ugly. Your remarks were over the top. Don’t you think? This book is not just any book. It makes many claims. She was chosen by the Lord to write His End Time Book to show people that Heaven is Real. Are you kidding me? We have the Bible, it says in it if an angel from Heaven comes to you telling you something else or adding to or taking away from the Bible…do not listen to them. This is what she does. Yet, people are being misled and will go to hell because they are believing in HER BOOK AND IN CHOO THOMAS RATHER THAN THE HOLY BIBLE AND OUR LORD. You need to know your subject. People have itching ears and they love what she says, she claims she is special. YOU ARE SPECIAL, EVERYONE GOD MADE IS SPECIAL TO HIM. HE CERTAINLY NEEDS NO OTHER BOOK TO CONVINCE PEOPLE, DID HE NOT DIE AND SHED HIS BLOOD which Choo says is filthy. HIS BLOOD IS CLEAN, PURE, HOLY AND IT CLEANSES AND DOES NOT BECOME FILTHY. That is shameful, disgraceful and I do not know what else but believe it is dangerous to say such things. She has made many predictions and they have not come to pass. ANYONE CAN CLAIM THEY HAVE SEEN JESUS, THEY HAVE BEEN TO HEAVEN but they are wrong. Please do not encourage others to read this book, many are not mature enough to know what is scripture and what is not.
REDEEMEDHIPPIESPLACE COMMENTS ARE VERY APPROPRIATE AND POINT OTHERS TO TRUTH. MANY REJECT TRUTH. BE GUIDED BY THE WORD OF GOD IS WHAT SHE TELLS OTHERS. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT? MANY DO NOT WANT TO HEAR THE TRUTH, THEY WANT THEIR EARS TICKLED AND THAT LEADS ONE DOWN THE WRONG ROAD. SAD. FEW WILL HEAR THE TRUTH AND SOME FIND IT. PRAISE THE LORD FOR THIS WEBSITE. THERE ARE FEW LIKE IT.
May 01, 2010 @ 18:39:52
Stacy, get real. You say you “choose not to comment” but you DID comment. I’m soooo glad you are a “christian.” Please tell me where we are told to accept everything that comes down the pike in jesus name? Please tell me where we are to stay silent when false teachers teach things contrary to the Word of God.
May 01, 2010 @ 18:41:39
Chloe, So what is your point? If I choose to debunk a book, that “isn’t a bible,” then what is that to you? I will tell you what is sad…no, actually pathetic, people like you who come here by the dozens in all your self-righteousness attacking those who are testing things. THAT is the holier-than-thou attitude. You are right about one thing though, a blog owner can and will say whatever he or she wants. For the most part anyway. I bite my tongue with people like you because you want to remain ignorant and on the fence. You don’t even have the guts to come here under the same person. You have come twice as two different people. That makes you a coward in my book, STACEY.
May 02, 2010 @ 05:09:20
Am rather disturbed that a self confess christian speaks with so much of wrath in this webpage. It is people like this that gives christianity a really bad name. Christians are suppose to be filled with love… delusional ones think that by calling people names such as ‘coward’ and ‘pathetic’ is very christian… that is sad.
Love Jesus with a passion, love people with compassion.
GBU.
Mar 16, 2012 @ 21:31:42
Wow. What you say could send some people to hell in my opinion. Sounds so good, sounds so right but is not in this instance. Being compassionate is one thing, being truthful is another. IF we love people, we will tell them the truth, point them to the Lord. People say many things because they like how it sounds but we can be so wrong. I have to tell my children and grandchildren the truth about everything and they might not like it, may accuse me of being uncaring when it is out of love that I tell them certain things. Things and seem to be so good and sound so nice and loving when they are not. Yes, there is a hell and we do not want to go there. We must know the truth in order to obey and make Heaven. My teens would say but I love him so, grams, you just do not care. I cared much so I opened my mouth and called sin, sin. Because I am compassionate, because I cared. Some things we do are not so pleasant but they are the right thing to do. We study the word so we know what to do, it tells us how to live. It has the answer for everything. Because God loved us so much He gave His Son who offered His life for ours. Now, that’s Compassion. I do not believe that was easy. We change as we go along our path here because we grow, we grow in the Word and we learn from life. We can look back and see what we should have done that we did not do. We rarely get a second chance. Sometimes compassion applies as you meant it but not every time and not in this when it comes to this. Christians are hated, the most persecuted people on the earth today and is growing worse. People need to hear and see the truth. It matters. If we really love one another we will act like it. Sometimes saying pretty words can do much harm. Hurting anothers feelings might save their life or the life of someone else. I see no love in your remarks to another believer. You can speak the truth any time. Sad to say but the nicest people I have met are usually not Christians. There are few who really live the life and I believe the person of this website answers well and truthfully, lifting up the Word and our Lord which is what we are to do. He said IF I BE LIFTED UP I WILL DRAW ALL MEN UNTO ME. HOW WILL CHRISTIANS LIVE IN HEAVEN WITH BICKERING HERE? THERE ARE SOME WHO HATE OTHER BELIEVERS AND DO NOT MIND SAYING SO, HOW DO THEY THINK THEY WILL EVEN MAKE HEAVEN. ONLY THOSE WHO LOVE ONE ANOTHER WILL MAKE HEAVEN. That should cause many to think about what they say and how they say it. We should speak truth in love but we do not have to let the stones others throw hurt us or kill us. I pray all begin to really practice love for one another. What gives Christians a bad name is bickering and saying things we do not really understand what we are saying. I am not here to pick a fight. I would like to hear others be kind to one another. I pray for you Anon. Love God, love His Word, love those whom you hate, love yourself. Forgive me if I hurt your feelings, no offence was intended yet many are offended when you disagree with them. May God cover you with His Love.
Mar 16, 2012 @ 21:46:37
Sorry. I said way too much. I hope I did not hurt anyone. It is important that we believers really show love for one another. Ugly words sting, calling another Christian names because you do not like how it is said is not necessary. That is all I meant. If we truly love one another why write a hateful reply meant to hurt and point out what you believe is their lack of love giving Christianity a bad name when your comments are doing what you accuse another doing. That was wrong. That was my point. I saw a lack of love there. Where do we start, let us start now with me. I am sorry for hurting anyone but we must stand up for the Word. He could come while we are speaking to a believer and saying hurtful things to them. We point fingers while we do the very same or worse. That should not be, should it? Think about this Anon. This is for you and for me and all who believe, we are to be known for our love for one another while at the same time we must give answer for ourselves and we can say I am sorry.
May 02, 2010 @ 20:49:44
annon, If you are that “disturbed” then get off my blog. You keep coming here under different identities and use passive/aggressive behavior to try and give yourself credibility. But you have none. When you can not debate the issue at hand, you resort to name calling and accusations. Unless you have some kind of medical/physical problem that makes it hard for you to test things, you have no excuse. You ARE a coward to keep coming here under different identities. You ARE pathetic when you can not test things or answer simple questions. Do us both a favor, and don’t bother coming back. I don’t need comments that bad. No more of your comments will be posted. I try to keep people from coming in here with different identities to make it fair for those who DO come and are not afraid to reveal themselves.
May 03, 2010 @ 01:09:30
Annonymous (and whoever else you are), you rightly say that true christians are supposed to love each other. Has it not occurred to you that it is BECAUSE YOU ARE LOVED that people like redeemed hippie etc. run blogs with TRUTH.
Example: As a mother, when I find my small child playing with a sharp knife, what do I do? Say….oh darling are you having fun playing with mummy’s knify wifey, or do I swiftly remove the danger and explain why?
Please take heed. NOTHING Choo Thomas has written is born of the true Jesus Christ who was crucified. It is dangerous nonsense which you absorb at your peril.
Btw, this is written with REAL LOVE for you, and indeed for every other deceived defender of this mis-leading money hungry woman.
May 03, 2010 @ 01:30:34
Signet, thank you. Maybe she will get the point now. God bless you, sister. I hope all is well with you and yours. Love you!
May 03, 2010 @ 02:53:00
Praise the Lord, love is the greatest of all, not the doctrine. The doctrine comes from men, and is not always correct. (if it is, how come there are several contradictory doctrines?) The Bible comes from God, and therefore it it always true and correct. Cho’s testimony book tallys with the Bible, but contradicts certain doctrine. That’s why it is attacked.
Sister, don’t worry, I don’t follow the image of Jesus created by Cho. I read her book only once, but read the Bible every day for more than twenty years. I also get closer to Jesus when I listen to Billy Graham preaching, but it doesn’t mean that I follow the image of Jesus created by Billy Graham. The same thing applies to all preachers that I listen to in the church. God bless you all
May 03, 2010 @ 03:06:11
Love you too RH, tell me do you have a facility for ‘contact’ like some other blog sites? I cannot see one. Just wondering……
May 03, 2010 @ 03:22:05
Signet, if you mean you would like to contact me personally, you can leave a comment, make sure you put “personal” on it and it will not get posted. But I will see it and respond to you.
May 03, 2010 @ 03:24:19
Jonathan,I am glad you do not follow Choo’s “jesus” brother. May God use you greatly these last days.
May 28, 2010 @ 10:39:15
I have read the book but the book does not help me to solve my problem at all. I have corrupted my wisdom and I deny the teaching of my own spirit. Am i receiving the beast number 666? Does 666 symbolizes a spirit that is dead? I believe my spirit is dead because I can’t own possessions from this world. It’s like the bad branches is cut off from the good ones. But my wisdom is not corrupted if I think about working with Satan. Does that mean God has not forgiven me anymore and has delivered me to Satan?
May 28, 2010 @ 10:53:06
There was once I entered a church filled with the holy spirit and the holy spirit did not permit me to worship God with the congregation. My wisdom corrupts. My wisdom also corrupts if I help the church freely and openly. So is there any chance for me to be saved?
May 28, 2010 @ 20:18:03
Oliver, I’m not so sure I understand what you are asking of me. But I will try…If you have called on the name of the Lord Jesus, if you have counted the cost of following Him and picked up your cross, if you have trusted his forgiveness for your sins, if you desire to please him and love Him above all things and above all on this earth, if you have made him Lord of your life and Redeemer of your soul, then why would you not consider yourself a child of God? There are so many more things that could be said, but I have tried to make it simple to understand. If I have not, then tell me.
Yes, OUR “wisdom” corrupts. But I do not understand what you mean if you try and help the church?
Have you called out to the Lord Jesus? There is no other name that man can be saved.
May 29, 2010 @ 11:16:14
How my soul was restricted to own possessions from this world? Whenever I want to earn for myself, my soul becomes tense. My entire desire and wisdom corrupt from thinking about it.
May 30, 2010 @ 02:39:52
Oliver, I appreciate your comments. But before I put up the other one, would you please tell me what you mean when you use the word “wisdom?” You refer to it a number of times and I would like to know what it is I am addressing before I try. Thank you and God watch over you.
Jun 12, 2010 @ 02:12:43
I haven’t read the book yet, but I’ve heard a lot about it by a friend who’s read the book and from what I’ve read on this website and other sources. If it is NOT God who is influencing Choo, then why would she write in the book to refuse the “Mark of the Beast”? If it was the devil tricking her, wouldn’t he want everybody accepting his mark? It says in the bible not to accept this mark. I would really like to know your opinion on what Choo has to say about the “Mark of the Beast”. There’s a chance that Choo’s claims are true and a chance that they are false. Wouldn’t you rather live the lifestyle according to the book in optimism rather than ignoring it? I don’t think it’s worth taking the chance. It might actually be true. I don’t think Choo is influencing anybody to do anything bad. She’s trying to get people to be as pure as they can be. That doesn’t seem like the devil’s work.
Jun 12, 2010 @ 02:32:24
I don’t understand how Choo can lead us into danger if she is describing heaven as the place to be and the other non-heaven place as horrible torture. Why would the devil influence people to try and make it into heaven? If Choo is having encounters with evil, that would mean that when the tribulation comes, by refusing the “Mark of the Beast”, we’d really be refusing the true God’s mark. (The devil would lead everybody away from God, our heavenly father. Therefore, 666 would be God’s numbers because Choo said not to accept these numbers). It doesn’t make sense to me. I’m not promoting Choo’s book and I’m not opposing it. I just need to be enlightened before I can decide on what seems right.
Jun 12, 2010 @ 15:16:10
Cat, anyone can write a book telling us to refuse the mark. The point is she is pointing people to a different jesus. Go back and read the article AND the comments of those who have been able to see through her. The devil’s ministers come as angels of light.
Cat, you have to remember, the devil will ALWAYS, and I mean ALWAYS present a little truth in order to get you to swallow a lie. I suggest instead of spending so much time in a book written by a deceived woman, read your Bible. Choo has said HER book was an end times book. She goes as far as to say God told her. She is a liar. The Word of God is enough. You learn who the false ones are by learning the truth. The “Truth” being the Word of God and nothing more. IF you are serious about knowing the truth, then you will forget Choo Thomas and read the Word of God. Period.
Jul 22, 2010 @ 04:05:33
I was given this book to read recently by a God fearing gentleman definitely in love with our Lord Jesus. I recently came to the Lord myself and was looking forward to reading it. It took me 1 chapter to know something was amiss. Each page I read became more absurd. I made it to half of the book. I just couldn’t read anymore of it. Your right when you say its nothing but lies. So many things just didn’t make any sense. God would never make us confused. I feel so sad for the many people who have been deceived by this book because they do not know our precious Word of God enough to confirm it. Satan is the great deceiver and is definitely using this woman. How awful. The Word of God is all we need to live on. Books and studies are great tools but it must be verified multiple times. It pains me to think that the gentleman who gave me this book has been so easily mislead and I know I must speak with him.
Thank you for your perspective and advising people about the importance of God’s Word first and foremost. Everything we need to know is in those pages. It amazes me how many people feel its antiquated and not applicable to our times. It is such an awesome book, standing the test of time, perfect and true!!
God bless you!!
Jul 22, 2010 @ 13:26:38
Awww bless you heart, Tiff. Do not be afraid to speak to the man who gave you the book. God will show you what to say to him. Father, in heaven, I pray for Tiff, that You put the words in her mouth You woukld have her to say to this man and to any others who are into this book. Prepare the hearts of the hearers to receive with meekness the implanted Word which is not only able to save their soul, but help lead them to your truth. Open their eyes Lord. Let Tiff be a light in the darkness wherever she goes. May she be a witness to Your truth. May others hear through her and believe upon the Name of Jesus.
May God bless you too, Tiff!
Aug 03, 2010 @ 08:48:01
After I read CT’s book which was, incidentally, recommended to me by a minister friend, I wrote the following critique:-
Critique of “Heaven is so Real” by Choo Thomas
1. Absence of the Father
2. Nothing in the book that vivid imagination could not have thought up. No evidence of supernatural revelation.
3. Character of Jesus very “human” unlike John’s vision in Revelation 1.
4. Heaven appears “earthy”, eg, mansion with bathroom and bedroom, beach house and car.
5. Choo Nam presented as superior – focus more on her than on Jesus.
6. Familiarity with Jesus – hugging, holding hands, holding arm etc.
7. Presence of death in heaven eg, cooking the fish.
8. Confusion – is hell a part of heaven?
9. Contradicts Scripture
Eg,1. Jesus tells Choo to build His church yet he said, “I will build my church…”
2. Emphasis on the book she is to write. In the story of the rich man and Lazarus – Abraham said, “They have Moses and the prophets.”
10. Very repetitive.
11. She keeps saying how she missed Jesus. Did He not say, “I will never leave you”? We walk by faith, not by sight.
12. Before her meetings with Jesus she had times of severe shaking so that she could not be with her husband. How Biblical is that! Demonic?
13. Why did she and Jesus have to keep changing their clothes when they entered heaven?
Having read many of your readers’ blogs. I still stand by my observations. I even spoke to a Christian bookstore manager – asked why they stock the book because it is dangerous. The bookstore is part of a chain – she told me they have to accept stock from head office suppliers. She agreed that the book is dangerous and told me of a suicide directly attributed to the person reading the book.
Jesus said that people are willingly deceived. My daily prayer – Psalm 86:11 “Teach me Your way, O Lord, and I will walk in Your truth. Give me an undivided heart that I may fear Your name.”
Luella
Aug 03, 2010 @ 18:15:16
Luella, thank you for putting the info up. You made a lot of very good observations. May others see it and take heed. Thank you.
Aug 12, 2010 @ 02:28:45
I recently saw Ms. Choo Thomas’ book on the shelf of a thrift store (Value Village) and read some of her “testimony” online. Somehow it seems take away from the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ’s sacrifice on the cross to pay for our sins and more on keeping ourselves pure – which is fine in and of itself – and turns our salvation into a works righteousness salvation.
Aug 12, 2010 @ 17:36:03
Bob, good observation!
Aug 14, 2010 @ 14:05:43
It seems like the more we learn, the less we know. Although I had been a Christian for about 3 years now and had (still) not finished reading and meditating on the bible, I could smell the ‘fish’ in her book after I bought it last year. After flipping through pages after pages, I had decided that it was not worth my time and proceed to dump it into my piles of unfinished ‘Christian-labeled’ books.
And yes. To tell the truth, I was very uncomfortable when I read her book. A lot of what she had written in the book contradicts with my own thoughts and what limited knowledge (from the bible, of course) that I had at the back of my mind at that time. For example, is Jesus really that (for a lack of better terms) ‘human’? And how could there be a ‘third place’, reserved for ‘disobedient’ Christians? It just doesn’t make sense.
From that point on, it degraded from a testimony to a fairy tale.
Aug 15, 2010 @ 12:20:54
Brandon, I have piles of unfinished “christian” books too.
Thank God for your discernment. May He use you to point others out of the Choo deception and the other deceptions that are coming.
Aug 18, 2010 @ 18:55:32
I have not read Ms Thomas’s book but she and others like Retha Mcpherson’s son Aldo, claim they went to heaven, met Jesus and came back with messages from Jesus to tell the world.
Jesus himself told the parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus (Luk 16:17) and when the rich man wanted Abraham to send Lazarus to his father’s house to his brethren to “testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.” Abraham said to him: “They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them. And he (the rich man) said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went to them from the dead, they will repent. And he (Abraham) said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.”
This is Scripture and Jesus himself telling us – no one from heaven is going back to tell and warn the world. So Mrs Tomas is speaking so clearly against Jesus’s own words as is Mrs Retha Mcpherson and her son Aldo with their deceiving ministry.Mrs Retha Mcpherson is actually using Thomas’s book as proof that her son’s mesages are true. It is really tragic – they are deceiving many and themselves. I pray that their eyes will open.
Aug 20, 2010 @ 13:44:05
Cathy, you made some very good observations.
I have not heard of Retha McPherson and son Aldo. I do know there are plenty of people out there desecribing their experiences of heaven and hell as if we all should just take their word for it. Many of them are selling books on the subject. Need I say more?
Aug 20, 2010 @ 13:46:47
Sabina, you left me three long comments. I consider that spam and they will not go up. If you have something to say, say it in fewer words.
Aug 20, 2010 @ 13:48:25
John you wanted to endorse a heretic. Your comment does not go up.
Aug 20, 2010 @ 17:46:16
I have just been given a book from a member in my extended family called “From God: A message of faith”. It’s a South African book in which the person claims her son had the same experience as Choo Thomas had when she visited heaven. I believe that this is all part of the Word of Faith Movement/New Ageism. I was flaggelated for speaking out against this woman but was relieved to find your website which confirms my beliefs about these books. The Lord warned us about all these apostacies and it’s shocking that so many so Christians fall for these books and believe them to be of God. We truly are living in a world where we are moving away from solid sound doctrine and moving towards ‘experiences of the spirit’.
Aug 20, 2010 @ 20:50:21
Lisa, that must be Retha Mcpherson. Is that correct? I just found out about her and am starting a search on her. It IS shocking that so many people are coming under this type of New Age influence. I am always grateful when I run into others who can see through these people. Keep speaking the truth to people even if they don’t listen. The day will come when they know you speak the truth. Go bless you.
Aug 31, 2010 @ 09:20:35
been reading a number of the comments and looks like a lot does not believe in the Book… Most seems to claim that they don’t believe the book because of biblical facts, people who have good background on the Bible and have personally experience the holyspirit would probably have a different comment, and wont judge the author or accuse her, we may show our doubts but condemning her is definitely against the Bible too. We are entitled to believe what we want but Jesus himself was accused to be the prince of the devils, Jesus told the accusers that a kingdom cannot be against himself if it wants to succeed, and as a fellow believer have wrote the author teaches us how important casting the devil out in “JESUS NAME” is (if she is not from God she will not mention this). all i know is that the book helped made a change in my life, it made me wanted to serve my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ more than before… I simply pray that the HolySpirit will help those who are confused…
Sep 12, 2010 @ 04:51:55
Thank you. God Bless you
Sep 01, 2010 @ 00:01:18
Tease, If her book is not biblical, it is not biblical. What is so hard to understand about that? Yes, you are entitled to believe what you want to believe, but if you are following something that is dead wrong, then you are blind. Just as you are “entitled” to believe what you want, you are also entitled — actually COMMANDED, to test all things. Which you are not doing, if you believe her book to be something so “special’ as not to be judged.
Are you really so naïve to think that one in deception can not even utter the name of Jesus? Many false Christs and Messiahs can speak his name. Even devils can speak His name. They do it every time they use a false teacher like Choo Thomas. The devil is a trickster. It means nothing to him if someone can say, “be gone in Jesus name” and he give the impression that some great and mighty thing was done. He receives more power to if he is able to make people believe in a jesus that is not the real Jesus.
The book made you want to serve the Lord. Why? Because of her experiences? Why? In hopes that you too could become so “holy” that you would have her same experiences? God forbid that you follow this. Rather we are to get our inspiration from his word. That is enough. It is more than enough and if you find yourself needing more than His word, then you are going after idols.
Sep 01, 2010 @ 08:10:50
Satan tried to deceive Jesus using scriptures,and he is still doing the samething.The thing is when satan comes to deceive,he does nt tell you that I am satan follow me.All I can say is,if we don’t test the spirits how are we going to know,when he comes as an angel of light??
Sep 01, 2010 @ 23:25:17
Sosulwe, you are absolutely right!
Sep 12, 2010 @ 04:45:03
I totally disagree with you, Redeemed H. The simple question is this; Has the book HEAVEN IS SO REAL by Choo Thomas condemned the HOLY BIBLE in anyway? NO. It only broadens the mind of a 21st century me and you about prophesies and things that are already written in the Holy Book. And believing it is a personal choice. Infact one should not forget we are now living in the days of NOAH…. “If you believe in Jesus Christ and at the end of the ages it happens that he doesn’t exist, you have nothing to loose, but if you do not believe in Christ and it do happen that he exist which I believe he do, you have yourself to blame…” Lord have mercy
Sep 16, 2010 @ 23:08:49
Martin, your argument is weak. Just because something does not come out and openly condemn the Bible does not mean it can not be a deception.
“Broadens the mind”? Where are we taught in the Word of God to let our minds be “broadened” to the point where we do not test things? BECAUSE we are living in the end time, there is great deception on the rise. Choo Thomas’s “jesus” is NOT the Jesus in the Bible. And neither are her visions from Him. I suggest you take time to read the comments from the real truth seekers on this post and on the other one before you comment again. As I will not go around the same old mountain with you.
Disagree with me all you want. You are still wrong.
Sep 21, 2010 @ 03:51:17
I gave a handful of answer quoted from the bible itself and you don’t post it since you know i spoke the truth and don’t even try to argue about it. if you are so certain that CT is an antichrist why did you not post my comment??? Coz you are afraid that the truth i spoke about it will answer the confusions created on some….
Sep 21, 2010 @ 14:52:36
Teaser, I do not care whether or not you gave me a “handful of answers” from the Bible. This post has over 120 comments on it. A lot of them have already addressed your beliefs. I will not keep going around the same ol mountain with you or anyone else.
Even the devil knows the word of God! And he trembles at it!
The last thing I am afraid of is TRUTH. IF you had spoken truth i would have been more than glad to tell you “oh thank you, thank you for showing me the light.” But your arguments are the same as every other person who come to this post and spouting off without testing a thing.
If you are truly interested in the truth, go back and read the comments on this post. Otherwise, don’t come back. I refuse to keep going round this mountain.
Oct 09, 2010 @ 03:45:49
Too often I have fallen when I have earnestly looked for God in the wrong places. With what I know about Choo Thomas & her book I would not look there. When a friend phoned my to tell me about it I could not line what I had heard up with the Word, after looking into Choo & the book I thought of the deceivers Jesus along with Paul warned us about. The Lord is able to do above & beyond what we can ask or think, considering this I believe He Himself would speak to His people to enlighten them, but He already has in His Word. Do I doubt the reality of the Word, no…do I read books by man & woman that speak about the things of God, yes, but I have a lot that have not been finished as they do not line up with the Word. Money making is one reason people write books, Choo Thomas said all contributions from Christian people have been donated to missionaries. What about the writers royalities? Any way I won’t go there, it is enough to say that I do not agree with what she has written. Thanks.
Oct 15, 2010 @ 11:48:57
Jenna, I think we all can say we all at one time or another have looked for God in all the wrong places. Thank God you were able to see through this book. May God use you to bring other’s out of it’s deception!
Oct 14, 2010 @ 19:27:52
I do not ever want to contribute monetarily to a book that blatantly contains a jesus that is not of the Bible. So I searched the internet and found a place it can be downloaded for free at http://99.198.110.36/English/
Once I downloaded it and started to read it, the Holy Spirit flooded my mind with Scriptures that proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that this book is a very dangerous book to Christians when taken as truth. It appeals to the god of our imaginations which we are to be ever so careful of in the end times. It still boggles my mind as to how so many ministers have endorsed this book. Once you read this book, use it as a tool to speak out against the false teachings of our times of which it represents, and preach the real Jesus. May all my brothers and sisters in Christ who have already been deceived by this book, wake up and learn a new found love for the pure Word of God.
Oct 15, 2010 @ 11:46:25
Dale, neither do I purchase such books. Thanks for the link. Still, too many people still ignore the truth presented to them.
Oct 15, 2010 @ 11:54:02
Sabina, you will not get to continue to come here and endorse that book in any way. you have been given plenty of examples of the truth and you have chosen to ignore every one of them. will not keep going around the same old mountain with you. you are free to believe what you want, but as for this place, you will not be allowed to present your opinions on this issue.
Oct 15, 2010 @ 15:40:17
Why I Must Speak Out:
The easy road is to be like the Levite or Priest in the parable of the Good Samaritan. But Jesus taught us better than that. We are compelled to act when we see harm done to those around us. It would be easy to walk away from ‘Heaven is so Real’ and the false teachings that are so easily accessible in our internet and media age. Daniel 12:4 foretold of this age, “But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.” We truly are the Google and high speed transportation generation.
There is a valuable lesson to be learned from Elijah and the ‘Still Small Voice’. We sometimes need to be led into the wilderness to hear God’s ‘Still Small Voice’. Every year I go on a short term mission’s trip to an extremely impoverished area outside the United States. People ask me all the time, “Why don’t you work with the needy areas in this country?” The answer is very simple. We still have opportunities and safety nets in this country. Where I go there are none. Also, it allows me to break away for awhile from the practices of United States Christianity. I will tell you what I mean by that. Those that I worship with in these impoverished areas have almost nothing but their Bibles and the Holy Spirit. They have not been swayed by Americanized Christianity. When you speak with these Christians, you find out that they have a burden for the Christians in the United States and are praying against the false teachings.
God gave tremendous ministries to men from our past. I wanted to know what made these men tick. I began to read the writings of people like Smith Wigglesworth, who died in 1947. One thing that stuck out was Wigglesworth read very few other writings outside the Bible because he was very protective of his mind and what he allowed into it. Even with that, he firmly taught that everything he preached, people needed to test it out and to see if it is of God. This speaks volumes to me. The Bible is our sole source and we are to use it to test everything.
What is disheartening is to see so many Christians in this country looking for new revelations. Dreams and visions are only to be tools in the end times as prophesied in Joel 2 and Acts 2. They are never to be new revelation. Everything I need to know about Jesus, heaven, hell, the end times, salvation, and how to live a life of holiness are fully contained in the Bible. The Holy Spirit is given to us for power and to help discern. The Bible and the Holy Spirit are totally sufficient.
To those who defend the book ‘Heaven is so Real’, let’s look at the facts. There are many truths contained in that book, this cannot be denied. Matthew 4:6-7 says, “And (the devil) saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.” Isn’t it just like the devil to twist the truth? Read Psalm 91:11-12 and see where the devil left out the part where the bible says, “To keep thee in all thy ways.”
Now to get down to the nitty-gritty. Even though this book contains Scripture and represents many truths, it also contains warped views especially of Jesus (the living Word) and the Bible (the written Word of God). Isn’t it just like the devil to twist and warp? The Bible is 100% truth. Anything that is 99% true and 1% false, is not truth. I have been called by the Holy Spirit to write a book concerning the false doctrine that is represented in ‘Heaven is so Real’. In it, I will come against every warped view in Choo Thomas’ book and back it up by Scripture.
Almost every page of the New Testament contains the name of Jesus. From it, we learn who Jesus is. When He comes into our lives and resides within us, we gain an intimate relationship with Him. But, if we do not read our Bible and communicate with Him every day in prayer, we begin to lose the sensitivity of being able to recognize His voice in our lives. The most shocking warped view I came across in Choo Thomas’ book was in the 7th chapter where the jesus in her book says, “I trust you implicitly.” This statement cuts me to the heart. The Jesus who died, rose again, ascended into Heaven, and is not coming back to earth until He sets foot on Mt Olivet, would never say this to any human being. Jesus entrusts us to do what He has called each one of us to do, but never implicitly. Scripture confirms this over and over. One key verse is John 2:24-25, “But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men, And needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man.”
I could go on and on and on, with scripture after Scripture combating Choo Thomas’ book. But for now I hope that I have been of some use.
Oct 21, 2010 @ 23:33:16
Dale, though i can appreciate the many truths you have spoken, i can not in good conscinece let you endorse the likes of smith wigglesworth. If I’m not mistaken, he was the first of many who taught that “God told me” to kick, hit, punch a sick person. This in and of itself causes me to question him.
Still, may others see your words and come to the truth about false teachers such as Choo Thomas.
Oct 16, 2010 @ 14:50:04
TeaseR writes on Redeemed Hippies’ Place: “Most seems to claim that they don’t believe the book because of biblical facts, people who have good background on the Bible and have personally experience the holyspirit would probably have a different comment, and wont judge the author or accuse her, we may show our doubts but condemning her is definitely against the Bible too.”
When I woke up this morning, I could not get it out of my mind what I had read above yesterday. It troubled me greatly. I went back and found it. I copied it up above and now I must comment on it. I believe it is the center of why so many people are deceived by this book. Ephesians 4:14 says, “That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive.”
First of all, TeaseR refers to the ‘holyspirit’. I am not familiar with any ‘holyspirit’ in the Bible. I do know God the Holy Spirit who is part of the Triune God we worship and is co-equal with God the Father and God the Son. He is the one that came down when Jesus went up. I do not believe TeaseR’s referral is by accident. I believe that it attests to the fact that people are swayed by their imagination rather than by God the Holy Spirit.
The Bible, which is the completed written Word of God, is our tangible (touchable, concrete, physical, real solid) tool by which we are commanded to discern (righteously judge) everything. The Holy Spirit, God Himself, will then confirm it in our spirit. Because this confirmation is not tangible, we have to ever be so careful not to allow our imagination to become a part of it.
Second, TeaseR refers to people who have personally experienced this ‘holyspirit’ won’t judge. 1 Corinthians 6:2-3 says, “Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? And if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? How much more things that pertain to this life?” Jesus condemned unrighteous judgment, not righteous judgment. We are never to judge the intents of someone’s heart. Only God can do that. But, so many Christians cower down to the world’s view and make the blanket statement that we are not to judge. The heart of American Christianity is that they do not want to upset anyone. I recommend anyone confused by this to do a thorough biblical study of judgment, discernment, and testing. Acts 17:6 says, “And when they found them not, they drew Jason and certain brethren unto the rulers of the city, crying, These that have turned the world upside down are come hither also.” The early Christians turned the world upside down, but how is it today we do not want to upset anyone?
Now to direct this to TeaseR and give a little bit of my background. I accepted Jesus Christ as my LORD and Savior back in January 1977, at which time I was indwelt by the Holy Spirit. I received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit in April 1981, at which time I was filled with the power of the Holy Spirit. I live a life of holiness, not because I live a life of do’s and don’ts. I do not look at porn on the internet, not because I am not supposed to. I live a life of holiness because the God of the Universe lives inside of me of which I am conscience of at all times. My LORD sees all. I stay in constant prayer with Him. I do not just read His Word every day, but I study it with an undying love, because to know the Bible is know the heart of God.
Oct 21, 2010 @ 23:35:54
Sabina, I will not post your comment and keep going around the same old mountain with those like yourself who want to endorse CT. There are plenty of comments on here that explain the truth. It is your choice what you believe.
Nov 01, 2010 @ 15:54:28
Dear Redeemed Hippie:
I am very thankful to have found your website. I believe in not leaving any stones unturned in searching for the truth. I like to search what makes people, things, beliefs, and ministries tick. Your website allows for people to get down to the nitty-gritty, even if you do not fully agree. Thank you for doing that, because it allows an avenue for the truth to be continuously sought out.
I too was taken aback by a few of the reports where Smith Wigglesworth scared the people when he was commanding the evil forces that bound individuals. It was not the norm, but happened in a few instances where he got quite physical. But in each of the cases, the people were delivered and thankful they were healed. Those that knew him intimately said that he was a very compassionate man who hated seeing the devil get over on people, so sometimes he went full force against the darkness of hell that was binding an individual. This gave him a reputation of being a rough man whom a lot of people feared. But yet these same individuals came forward to him for prayer when they needed it most. Luke 8:37 says of Jesus after he delivered the two demoniacs, “And the whole multitude of the region of the Gadarenes round about asked him to go away from them, because with great fear they were pressed, and he having entered into the boat, did turn back.” After the multitude came to their senses and saw what Jesus had truly done and the testimony of the former madman, they changed their minds. When Jesus returned back to the region on the east shore of the Sea of Galilee we are told in Mark 6:54-55, “And they having come forth out of the boat, immediately having recognised him, having run about through all that region round about, they began upon the couches to carry about those ill, where they were hearing that he is, and wherever he was going, to villages, or cities, or fields, in the market-places they were laying the infirm, and were calling upon him, that they may touch if it were but the fringe of his garment, and as many as were touching him were saved.”
Hope this sheds some more light on the perspective!
Nov 09, 2010 @ 02:04:36
Dale, I appreciate all you say. However, I still believe that Wigglesworth was false. Because of him, the “ministers” of today think they have the right to kick little old ladies in the face with their “biker boot.” (tod Bentley) Also in the word of God it speaks of those who allowed the ministers/preachers to “smite” them. This is not God. Jesus never once struck anyone to “heal” them. He said, “I am gentle and lowly. come unto me and i will give you rest.” The stricking of those coming forward for healing is a mockery of the truth.
Nov 04, 2010 @ 05:53:07
Dear Redeemedhippie,
Thank you for reposting this interesting and thought provoking article on Choo Thomas. You were saying towards the start of the entry that Christian bookstores are becoming more and more heretical as time goes by with their seemingly endless promotion of self-help and Occult related material and I think that this is correct. They seem to be more interested in sales than promoting books that agree with scripture.
The problem today is that we have a church who would rather read a book by someone like Joyce Meyer than actually pick up the Bible. Christians seem to have this perception that the Bible is a difficult book to read and I strongly disagree with this idea. I am reminded of the words of Wayne Grudem who noted that that Bible is written in simple enough language that it can be read aloud to families. Anyone can read it and get a general literal revelation of what God is saying to us.
Choo Thomas is deceiving the people of God in order to get rich. She’s just riding on the coat tails of Don Piper whose book I once read. What is clear in this case is that his death was verifiable. What is non-verifiable is where he went (if anywhere). I’d be more inclined to believe Piper than Thomas but even then I still have my doubts.
Nov 08, 2010 @ 05:55:03
@redeem,who are you? why is that u always end up the last reply?
Nov 09, 2010 @ 02:12:55
jeffrey, because this is my place. Get it?
Oh and yes, I know i did not put up your full comment. I get tired of having to go around the same ol mountain with people like you.
I suggest if you want to be able to get the “last reply” either say something I have not heard over and over AND worth some substance or better yet, start your own blog.
Nov 16, 2010 @ 17:37:07
Hi, RH
Nice to see you are very zealous about the truth. I have read Heaven Is So Real myself (I would suggest you read it if you want to test it, though). I would like to comment on some things I read on your bolg:
1. ‘God would never do weird stuff like all the hand-exercises or body-shaking and stuff’. I think that’s insufficient if it’s the only reservation one has. God does do weird stuff – both Saul and Isaiah prophesied naked – all night and for 3 years respectively! Daniel ‘trembled and became like a dead man’ when he saw his visions, and Jesus spat on people to heal them sometimes… I doubt we can classify stuff spiritually based on what we think ‘weird’.
2. The ‘beds in heaven’ issue. I don’t know. The Bible said God rested on the seventh day after His work – was He tired? There could be beds in heaven, I’ve never been there. Why do we eat in heaven since we will never be hungry? The Bible clearly mentions fruits in heaven (Rev.2:7 and 22:2), and Jesus ate fish with His disciples in His glorified body (Lk 24: 23,24). I think this is inconclusive.
3. ‘How God could send someone who had never heard of Him to hell’. I was worried about that too, so I decided to read up on it. Romans 2:16 lets us know that we will be judged according to the gospel – which is whether we have faith in Jesus. Rom.3:26 says God will justify him who has faith in Jesus. Rom.10:13 & 14 makes clear that we are only saved if we call on the name of the Lord. We may not like it, but there it is.
4. Salvation by grace or by works. This is, I think, one of the most important issue of all. What does the Bible teach? We are saved by grace, not of works (Eph, 2:8 & 9). Yet, read the parable of the sheep and the goats (Matt. 25:31-46), Jesus obviously taught that we will be destroyed if we refuse to do good works (see also James 2:14-20; Rev. 22:12). So, yea, I think that is scriptural.
5. Is there a third place where ‘unserious christians’ go apart from heaven or hell? I have uncovered nothing about it in the Bible, but I’m studying and will let you know what I find when I’m done.
6. ‘I felt uncomfortable or confused when I read it’. I think that’s neither here nor there, scarcely a definition for truth. Some Bible passages still confuse me, and those are DEFINITELY from God.
7. ‘CT’s arrogance shows that it’s false; placing it on par with the Bible etc’. I strongly believe THE BIBLE IS THE ONLY INFALLIBLE WORD OF GOD. I did not get the impression that CT was urging people to stop reading the Bible though… maybe I should check again.
8. Jesus calling her his ‘special daughter’ ‘pure in heart’ etc. doesn’t sound unscriptural to me. He called Paul His ‘chosen instrument’ (Acts 9:15), David a ‘man after His own heart’ (Acts 13:22) etc. I’ve always wondered how Moses felt, writing that he was ‘the meekest man that ever lived’ (Num. 12:3).
I hope I haven’t offended you, RH. If I have, I’m sorry and hope you’ll be gracious in your reply! God bless.
Nov 22, 2010 @ 14:47:44
Naia, no you have not offeneded me. But i can not take the time to address every issue you have brought up. This post has had many comments addressing many things. Frankly, I am tired of debating it with people.
Nov 19, 2010 @ 01:51:34
RH, I hope you do not mind if I reply to ‘Naia.
Hi ‘Naia
In CT’s book you will find three things: Some truth, some controversial things, and a whole lot of toxic things. You listed some of the controversial things on November 16, 2010. They are not as much of the issue as what the toxic things are. Because, as you state, THE BIBLE IS THE ONLY INFALLIBLE WORD OF GOD, we must speak out against any toxic things that undercut the Bible. Galatians 5:9 makes a profound statement, “A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.” In plain words, CT makes her whole book of no credit because she weaves so much in it that is contrary to the Bible. Also, do a study on CT herself and you will see that she believed the Rapture would take place in 2007 and she sent out an urgent message on February 17, 2009 stating that the Tribulation had begun. This qualifies her to be labeled a false prophet according to the biblical standards. This makes both CT and her book dangerous to the truth.
I will list just 3 of the numerous toxic statements that are in direct opposition to the Bible:
1. The following is from Chapter 4: We sat down on the sand near the edge of the ocean. As the waves ebbed and flowed in front of us, an amazing thing happened. The edge of the water turned to blood. A dark red, foaming surf surged in front of us. It seemed as if the blood was filthy, and I asked, “Why is the blood so dirty?” “It is My blood, Choo Nam,” He said. “It has washed away all the sins of My children.”
1 Peter 1:18-19 says, ” Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot.” Plainly, Jesus’ blood is incorruptible and precious!
2. Chapter 12 describes an endless sea in heaven, “Around a little curve in the road I noticed a massive ocean that was so vast that it appeared to have no end. As we neared the waterfront, I noticed a high rock wall that had steps leading down to the shoreline. We went up the wall and walked down the steps. The edge of the sea was filled with boats, large and small. It was a marina in heaven.”
Revelation 21:1 says clearly, “And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.” To John, the sea meant separation, but we are assured that there will be no more sea or separation in Heaven!
3. In Chapter 15 Choo states, “We went to the usual rock that served as our resting place on these trips to the beach. I always sit on His left side and either hold His hand or put my hand under His arm.”
This statement really scares me because Jesus sits at the right hand of the Father (Hebrews 1:3) until He is to come back again (Acts 1:11), meaning that the Father is at His left. Isaiah 14:14 says of Lucifer, “I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.” Who really is this jesus that Choo sits with? Is it just limited to Choo’s imagination or is it Satan himself. Paul warns us in 2 Corinthians 10:5, “Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ.”
Dear Fellow Christians,
I beg of you to open your eyes and seek Holy Spirit discernment. Matthew 24:23-27 clearly says, “Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.”
Nov 22, 2010 @ 14:48:56
Dale, thank you for doing what I am not able to do right now. Good job.
Nov 20, 2010 @ 22:41:17
Hi, Dale.
(RH, hope you don’t mind us addressing each other on your page?)
Thanks for the reply and especially for the Scripture references you provided. I really am very grateful that you took the time to look all of them up and treated my comment with respect. May I say something about these issues?
1. The dirty blood of Christ. That the blood of Jesus is precious beyond compare is clear, and indisputable. I, personally, took the picture of the dirty blood to be a reminder of what Christ accomplished for us on the cross. I think it is meant to be understood in the same way as 2 Cor.5:21 – ‘God made He who knew no sin to become sin for us’ – even though we know Jesus is the spotless Lamb of God, the Bible said He became sin for us. And we know that sin is anything but spotless. Or Gal.3:13 which said Christ became a curse for us, even though we know He is God, forever blessed.
2. The sea in heaven. Well, that there are bodies of water in heaven is clear from Gen.1:7 and Rev.22:1. The term ‘sea’ in fact, seems to be a name given to the gathering of waters below the firmament, i.e. on earth (Gen.1:10), and it may be in this way that it is used in Rev.21:1. Your point, however, about separation is most valid, I think. There will definitely be no more separation from God in heaven.
3. Sitting on the left side of Jesus. Mark 10:35-40 has James and John asking for Jesus to let them sit on His left and right. Jesus did not rebuke them for this request, but said that those places were for those God Himself reserved them for. I doubt it implies satanic intent on the part of the disciples, and I doubt God is meant by ‘those for whom they have been prepared’ in v10. In Rev.1, John sees Jesus standing among the lampstands, not seated at the right hand of the Father. This was post-ascension and pre-second-coming. While I appreciate your concern, I wonder if these things are enough to build a case on?
Dale, I will continue to prayerfully consider your comments, but these are my first thoughts. God bless you. Maranatha, come Lord Jesus!
Nov 20, 2010 @ 22:53:19
Date-setting for the rapture will always prove wrong, as you pointed out, Dale. 2 Thess.2 warns us about being unsettled by things that make us think the end has come or Christ has already come. We cannot know when it will be. All we do know is that it is soon (Rev. 22:7). I think CT would do well to take heed to that Scripture. To her credit, though, she did not put any dates in the mouth of Jesus in her book. That would have been a dead ringer that it was all trumped up!
God bless!
Nov 28, 2010 @ 20:40:06
Hi ‘Naia
If someone has an interpretation of anything that claims truth, but it does not agree with the counsel of Scriptures and the witness of the Holy Spirit, then one must abandon their interpretation, for it does not bear the same weight as the scriptures. So it is with trying to interpret Choo Thomas and her book. In the two examples I gave of Choo’s prophetic failures and just three of the multitudes of examples where her book contradicted scripture, it is clear that her and her book do not stand up to the weight of Scripture and the witness of the Holy Spirit. At this point, her and her book must be abandoned. We have been given the truth and the truth is able to set us free (see John 8:32). But, we must allow that truth to set us free!
By just simply stating the facts, I must repeat the three examples where her book blatantly contradicts Scripture:
First, the Bible (1 Peter 1:18-19) makes it clear that Jesus’ blood is precious and incorruptible. Choo tells us there is an ocean of Jesus’ dirty blood. Second, The Bible (Revelation 21:1) states clearly there will be no more sea in Heaven. Choo tells us there will be an endless sea in Heaven. Third, the Bible, the Apostles’ Creed, and the Nicene Creed, (these creeds are the pillars of the Christian Church) clearly tell us that Jesus is at the right-hand of the Father until He is to come back again. Choo tells us she got to sit with Jesus at her right-hand.
With these un-disputed truths being declared, we are obligated to abandon both her and her book and not try to interpret her and her book any further.
What I have written may seem harsh, but Jesus did not play games. When He went into the Temple and cleared out those who were abusing His Father’s house, it was a very serious matter.
May the Lord give clarity to all who need this.
Dale
Dec 01, 2010 @ 11:28:56
Naia, please listen to Dale. He speaks the truth.
If I bought what I thought was a good book and began to find things in it that did not add up to be true, why waste time reading it? To “glean” from it? Hardly. Why would we when Jesus told us to be careful of the leaven? As far as I know, Jesus never taught us to “glean” anything from deception.
I bought a book a few months ago, began to read it in hopes it would be a really good “christian” book. Even though it had it’s good points, I could not finish it. Why spend my time on that when I can have the whole truth and nothing but the truth through God’s Word? I don’t need that confusion nor do I need man’s opinion.
Dec 01, 2010 @ 15:54:51
I have learned to be very wary of ascribing something to spirit that has anything to do with our senses and this reeks of the sensual. This is soul at its best! I won’t even read the book.
I have something that I want to put through the test of other true believers… it concerns heaven [in fact the New Heaven and the New Earth] so it is relevant to this post in a sense and it has something to do with the Bride. I am really eager to get feedback. My daughter-in-law – a lovely radical Christian just like us lot, told me that there is a difference between “Saved” and “Redeemed”. This struck a chord with me because it explained a theory that I have had for a long time. This is how it goes…
There are three classes of people… Unbelievers, Saved Believers and Redeemed Believers.
1.In the New Heavens and the New Earth – the future Kingdom of God – the Unbelievers will have been dealth with. Because there can be no rebellion in the Future Kingdom of God, these people’s spirits will join Satan and his angels in hell.
2.Saved believers are those who go to church, read their Bibles, and believe in God and in what Jesus Christ did, but they have not been born-again. They do not reject God’s rule over them, in fact they lead quite godly lives but they will not form part of the Bride of Christ because they have not been born again. Revelation says that there is going to be a New Heaven and a New Earth. These people are to be SAVED from the renovation of the earth by fire, and will live on the renewed New Earth.
3. Redeemed believers are born-again believers who form the Bride of Christ and will rule from Heaven with Jesus Christ over the inhabitants of the earth – the Saved Believers.
Please give me your thoughts on this. I’m not sufficiently familiar with the site yet to know if there is a place where I can post this… so pse forgive if this is out of place here.
Dec 02, 2010 @ 14:52:39
nomen est omen, no you are not out of place here.
However, I must address something. The illustration of “saved” and “redeemed” is misleading. One can not be saved or redeemed without the other. It gives the impression there are two kinds of Christians and there are not. One can not be redeemed — bought with a price — without being saved. One can not be saved — bought with a price — without being redeemed. They are one and the same.
Dec 02, 2010 @ 16:19:58
Thanks for your thoughts RH!
Dec 06, 2010 @ 00:01:49
First off – thanks, Dale, for reiterating your points. God bless you. RH, if I could comment on the most recent issue being discussed here?
Nomen est omen,
I agree with RH that one cannot be saved without being redeemed. The issue of who believers will rule over in the Millenium and after still stands, though. I have been studying this issue recently, but like you – I would like to hear people’s thoughts on what the Bible teaches.
I believe there will be people from the Great Tribulation – those who will accept Jesus at that time, and who will refuse to receive the mark of the Beast, and be killed for it. This seems to be supported by Rev.7:14. Furthermore, there appear to be natural people who will survive the great tribulation and go on into the Millenium (‘nations’ in Rev.20:1-3,6, Isaiah 2:2,3). I think these will be some of the people that Christ and believers will rule with an ‘iron fist’.
I think it’s also possible that what the Bible refers to when it says a believer ‘himself will be saved as one escaping through a fire’ after the judgement of our works (often called the Bema seat judgement) in 1 Corinthians 3:10-15 is that some believers will not have the authority to rule because they have no works worthy of anything – which is why that authority is a reward from Jesus for ‘doing His will’ in Rev.2:26-27. It has been suggested by some Bible scholars that it is these ‘unprofitable servants’ who will be destined for ‘weeping and gnashing of teeth’ or the ‘outer darkness’ in many of Jesus’ parables (cf. 25:30). However, I don’t think there will be any weeping in heaven, as promised in Rev. 21:4, so I’m not sure about that.
Is there anyone that can give me some clarity on this aspect of our glorious future?
God bless!
Dec 06, 2010 @ 00:07:23
By the way, RH, thank you for your words to me in particular. They are taken in the same spirit of concern with which you obviously gave them. God bless and keep you too.
Dec 06, 2010 @ 01:00:51
Naia, I only know what our “glorious future” will be like by the Word of god, which you yourself know. I must admit I have never given much thought about myself ruling nations or kingdoms. If for some reason God sees fit for me to do so, then I guess it will be ok. Haha. But I would much rather be at his feet, playing some kind of heavenly guitar or musical intrument, singing a new song for and to Him through out all eternity! If He would want me to go and fetch Him anything, I would jump at the chance. But that would be heaven. I wish i could say the same thing now for being here on earth but I can’t. Some physical limitations and other stuff make it hard to know what His will is at times. I reckon heaven will be the most perfect place any of us could ever imagine and He will have things for us to do that will fit us perfectly. After all, HE is perfect and knows all things and what is best for each of us. I wish I could answer your question, but I never gave it much thought I would be ruling much of anything. I just want to be with Jesus!
Dec 06, 2010 @ 07:55:40
Hi Naia! Thank you – that was very edifying. [I wonder is it OK for me to reply to you directly since this is RHs blog?] If not, just throw it out RH!
I have a feeling we are on the same wavelength here. I have written a book and this is the beginning… do you mind reading it and telling me what you think?
“There was a time – non-time really – when all there was, was one Supreme Being, God the Creator. He existed all alone in an everlasting silence and in complete solitude. Nothing shared space with Him; not sound or sight, nor form. Not even nothingness, because even “nothingness” was “something.”
He was a Trinity – meaning that although He was one Person, He expressed Himself in three Persons, namely God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.
Paradoxically, the very essence of this God who was so alone and silent was love, but there was no other for Him to love.
It was then that He, with tender heart yearning and uncharacteristic vulnerability, conceived a plan so astounding, with a scope of such magnitude and intricacy, and carrying with it a risk so grave, that even He trembled in its contemplation. He would create an Eternal Companion for Himself.
No imagination by the most brilliant intelligence in heaven or on earth – in time or eternity, even if there were such a thing then – could even remotely conceive of a being that could be a suitable companion for this awesome Personage. S/he would have to be His equal in every way. S/he could not be superior to Him nor could s/he be inferior to Him. S/he would have to be the highest life form He could create and would have to complement Him perfectly on all levels of His being.
He was, however, faced with a serious dilemma…
The story of how God the Father proceeded to resolve this problem makes for amazing reading. It runs like a Golden Thread right through the Bible, of how God the Father chose the nation Israel to be His wife, in order to bring forth the Man Jesus Christ [God in the flesh] who would be put to death to bring forth His Bride, us born-again believers, in the same sense that Adam was “put to death” to bring forth his Bride, Eve.” [This paragraph is for me, the Bible in a nutshell.]
I haven’t published the book yet because there are issues that I am not sure in how far it is my theory or God’s truth. So it will help tremendously if you and/or anyone else could give me your thoughts on this small part.
The question arises… Why did God create a material universe and physical man? Why did He not just create a pure spiritual companion for Himself? Surely a spirit Companion would have been ideal? I believe the reason may have been this: It is obvious from what happened to Lucifer and his angels who were pure spirit beings that they had an element of choice and could therefore become corrupt. If it is assumed that the spirit Companion would also have had an element of choice, and she became corrupt, [God must have known that she would, which is possibly why He did not create a spirit being as a companion for Him] there would be no possibility of redemption for her because spirit cannot die and therefore cannot be released from the curse of corruption and sin. She would have had to be cast into hell just like Lucifer and his angels, because corruption can have no place in the perfect and holy Dimension of Spirit. There was only one way. Seeing that God knew beforehand that some of his creatures that make up His Eternal Companion [s/he is a corporate figure made up of all human beings who are born-again spiritually] were going to rebel against His rule, physical death [and extinguishing of the flame of the spirit so that it cannot be exploited by Satan] was the only solution because death of the physical body was the only means for opening the way to redemption.
Dec 07, 2010 @ 00:53:49
nomen, you have given me much to think about. It will take some time to fully read and understand all you have said. Your description of God is very beautiful. Yet, I can not see him “trembling.” That seems to insinuate fear and perfect love casts out all fear. God being love has no fear. You write beautifully. Don’t stop.
If you have anything else to share — questions, etc. that is not on the topic of Choo Thomas, then please go to the new “Got Questions” page i made. I made that for questions and general discussion.This thread here is getting awful heavy, meaning it takes forever to load. Thanks
Dec 07, 2010 @ 05:47:50
Thanks! I just don’t get a chance to go through everything so that I can become acquainted with the mechanisms of the site. Going to look for “Got Questions” now!
Dec 12, 2010 @ 22:58:04
RH,
Thanks for your comments on the future of the believer. Frankly, it’s rather refreshing to hear someone not angling for the highest place in heaven! God bless your humble spirit and make you more like Him.
Jesus, however, seems to love to give us glimpses of the glory ahead. The language is so glorious that it sets me shaking sometimes. Look at all the promises in Rev. 2&3 for those who hold on. Look at the parables of the kingdom all ending with reward for the faithful… He has so much more for us than we are willing – or perhaps even able! – to comprehend. I look forward to playing some kinda acoustic guitar in heaven too, but I also (unashamedly) want to be in on my Master’s business! If there are nations to teach or lead, people to instruct in the way of the Lord, feet to wash, whatever… count me in!
Something just occurred to me as well – ruling in the kingdom of God will not be like it is in the kingdom of man. Jesus did say ‘He who would be great in the kingdom of God must be the servant of all (Matt.20:25,26).
At any rate, I look forward to meeting you there!
Dec 13, 2010 @ 00:37:39
Naia, sorry, but nomen will not be posting any comments here anymore, if I can help it.
Dec 14, 2010 @ 11:30:36
LOL. Gotcha.
God bless you and keep you.
Dec 26, 2010 @ 13:06:19
Zachariah, don’t bother coming to this thread and leaving me anymore long drawn out “comments.” I’ve heard them all before and am not wasting my time trying to address the issue anymore.
Dec 27, 2010 @ 19:21:03
Hi Hippie,
I am living in Pretoria, South Africa. I stumbled upon your website (by accident?) tonight after I Googled “Heaven Is So Real”.
I’ve got no idea where I got the title of the book from and why I was Googling it tonight. BUT I had a similar experience than Thomas claims she had. Mine was in March of this year.
I first believed that I died and went to heaven and hell, but that’s not so. It was in fact revealed to me in a dream. And to be honest, since then I had taken mountains of time to pray about it, to understand it and to try to deal with it.
I have not read Thomas’ book and I never will. I do not believe that we have indulge in wordly acts to “try all things and keep the good” as some people do.
I was about to get hold of the book, until God showed me your website. It must have been Him, as I said, I don’t even know where I got the title from.
In short, thank you and so many readers for speaking the truth. Nothing but the truth can set us free. God will not accept people blaspheming Him.
Thomas’ book can NEVER reveal a truth or ANY part thereof. The Bible is MORE than sufficient. Problem is, Christians the world over don’t even bother to spend time in God’s Word. “My people perish because of a lack of knowledge”.
It was interesting to read so many people’s comments about the book and about heaven and hell.
I can tell you this, God has not instructed me to write a book about it, although I can perectly well do so. But it would be against His will. What God has done, is to create in me an understanding of HIS love, patience and to obey Him at all times. Among MANY other things that I cannot express in this forum.
God is Love. Most Christians don’t even understand that.
Maybe we are world’s apart, but in God we are united.
Thank you for being a Child of God, and for the exemplary way in which you present facts, like Jesus did.
God bless you and all the Children of God who visit your website. And those who are not saved, for whom we keep on praying.
Let us not grow weary, let us take God on His Word, let us unite in the truth of the living Jesus Christ and let us never stop praying.
God loves you, and so do I.
Be blessed in 2011 and beyond!
Adriaan de Beer
Pretoria
South Africa
Dec 27, 2010 @ 21:21:13
Adriaan, glad our paths have crossed. I’m very happy that you can see through the fakery and deception of Choo Thomas. May God use you to help others see His truth.
Blessings to you, friend.
Dec 28, 2010 @ 11:17:31
I havent read this book, but I got an impression straight away that it was not a fullness of truth.
One thing I have always known, is that the best way to deceive people is to mix a bit of truth with lies, and thats exactly what this book obviously manifests.
I know that when you are confused, you are not connecting with truth, because truth is confirmed immediately upon hearing or receiving it.
I just finished reading “Embraced By the Light” this book is far more accurate than most i have read.
Dec 28, 2010 @ 14:51:03
Kylie, “Embraced by the Light” is another false deceiving book. If you are sincere in your search for the truth:
http://redeemedhippiesplace.wordpress.com/2010/12/28/embraced-by-the-light-of-deception/
Dec 30, 2010 @ 21:50:45
I read Choo Thomas’s book and I immediately fell into a depression for a year, I felt I could never be good enough to make it to heaven, I prayed to Jesus but the conflict I felt confused me so much I was not sure if he was speaking to me, I learned about grace in church and I started to feel better but a pastor friend of mine from work spoke of Choo Thomas with such conviction saying it was real and he would compare it to the bible and say it was true so much I felt that I must be stupid and he must know better so I bought into it. I prayed to Jesus and the Father not to cast me into hell for making a mistake and to please, please, please forgive me I became a nervous wreck. I know I am not the swiftest person in the world but I would lay around in a funk and depression especially after reading Mary Baxter and her journeys into hell with Jesus that I also received from my pastor friend… A year later ( last night ) I decided to just read JOHN. I kept thinking ” wait.. it says here if I believe in Jesus and accept him then I will have eternal life, it felt so wrong when I thought about CT and MB but because I am not that learned I decided to finally check what other people who were smarter than me were saying about this and I thankfully stumbled upon your website, I feel like crying because I feel like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders and that Jesus will save me because I love him and accept him as my savior, even with my faults and failings and he will not just throw me and my family into hell because we make a mistake or are not holy enough. I love you redeemed hippie and I will visit this website more often because I have been deceived enough.
Dec 31, 2010 @ 01:56:08
PM, I am so glad you have come to know the truth about Choo Thomas, my friend. Isn’t it wonderful to be out from under that yoke of deception?! Unfortunately, there are others who have made her their plumb line on what is true and what is not, what is “spiritual” and what is not. No telling how many Christians she has deceived into believing that if they do not experience the things she has, then they must not be as “spiritual” as she –causing them to doubt their very salvation because of comparing themselves to Choo Thomas and her deceiving experiences. We can be thankful that we have the perfect plumb line; Jesus — the Word of God. We do not need anything else, do we? She has added to the word of God. You do not need to fear her words, any longer. You have been set free by the Son and He whom the Son sets free, is free indeed. So do not fear men who speak swelling words to you or try to appear intelligent with their many books. You have been set free by the truth. Do not let anyone put you back under that yoke of making you feel you must accept something more than the simple unadulterated truth of God. You do not. He is more than enough.
I read M Baxter’s book years ago and it had the same effect on me that Choo Thomas had on you. This is one reason I do not buy the books of apostates in hopes of digging through garbage to find a “pearl.” I will not do it.
Continue to test all things, friend. We are commanded to. You be blessed and acknowledge the Lord in all your ways and He will make your path straight. HE is the light unto your path and more than enough.
Dec 31, 2010 @ 11:42:50
PM,
I am so grateful that Christ has set you free from your depression and doubt. Our getting to Heaven is not so much about what we do – our own perfection, but about what Jesus has done, as you obviously got from reading the gospel of St. John. Thank God for this deliverance. May He help us to continue on the path He has set our feet on, so that we may one day see Him who has done so much for us! God bless you.
(p.s. and do not put yourself down like that. Being learned has nothing to do with knowing God! Jesus says, in fact, that God has hidden His mysteries from the wise and learned and has revealed them to ‘little children’ Matt.11:25 – or to those who are willing to become like little children)
God bless you too, RH. Even though I did not get any negative feelings about CT’s book, I am very distressed to read that others have, and I think they are very right to leave it well alone, in that case.
Love!
Dec 31, 2010 @ 18:43:24
Thank you so much for your reply, I am tearing up right now as I write this, I thought Jesus would not answer me when I prayed to him to tell me if those books were real, I thought I would end up in hell no matter what but I believe now he brought me to you. I am ever so grateful that you have this website. I also reached out to the pastor of my church ( not the friend I wrote you about ) I was nervous and unsure to ever really speak to him about CT and MB and I do not have a good answer as why, I think maybe because I did not want to look silly, I already felt like I was having a nervouse breakdown and my family was certainly picking up on this,I don’t know, anyway this is his answer in a private e-mail to me that I would love to share with you.
“Christians need to be careful not to equate a certain (sometimes arbitrary) level of obedience with salvation status. That is God’s call, not ours. We cross clear lines when we claim we have figured out how to work our way into the grace of God. Our obedience to God is IN RESPONE to our salvation, not the CAUSE of it.
I am not familiar with either of the people you mentioned but I suspect they are charismatic personalities who people like to give their allegiance to. I’ll take a scandalously patient Jesus over a frenzied preacher/writer any day.
”
Along with my reading of JOHN and you and my pastor and of course JESUS, I feel so much more at ease and if it is possible I love JESUS even more, your above reply made and continues to make me cry. I pray that GOD blesses you and your family and happy new year to you ! I write with much love and gratitute- PM
Jan 01, 2011 @ 12:15:54
PM, Naia speaks the truth when she says, “Being learned has nothing to do with knowing God!” We “learn” who He is by His Word. Jesus being THE Word — being Spirit — teaches us through His Word. He is our Teacher. I rejoice you were set free. May God continue to show HIS truth to you. Be blessed dear one.
Jan 22, 2011 @ 15:08:11
Hi! I’m from South Africa. I really thank God for this blog, I was actually about to look into CT’s sight when I came across your blog. I bought this book in 2007 after it was recomended by a friend. I believed every word about it, told most people I know about it. I had NEVER felt so condemnd, so unworthy to be in Heaven, like I wasnt special to Jesus that He would visit me! I was reading the book more than the bible & even through my prayers I would ask God to make me perfect so I can also go to heaven. Everytime I made a mistake I would condemn myself. I started praying that I would come to the knowledge of the truth. I’ve been fasting for 2 weeks now & I thank God that through this blog I’ve come to the knowledge of THE TRUTH. I cant believe I’ve dwelled upon this book for so long. I’m taking back what Satan had stolen from me in Jesus name.
Jan 22, 2011 @ 18:51:26
Tshepang, I am very glad you were able to see through the deception. May God use YOU to speak truth into the lives of those who are deceived by CT. My prayers go with you, as I have learned too many people love to believe a lie and will come against you for speaking the truth. But may you find favor in the eyes of the Lord and in all those you help bring out of the darkness.
Never, never, never compare any “spiritual experience” to your own. Most of the time the “experiences” have nothing at all to do with the truth.
CT has added to the Word of God. May she see the truth of the error in her teaching and repent.
God bless you and welcome to this place!
Jan 25, 2011 @ 18:41:02
To those who have left recent comments in defense of the apostate Choo Thomas: None of you have said anything new. Same ol’ attacks coming from heretic lovers. You have itching ears that want to be tickled. You are free to believe and think whatever you want. But I will not go around the same old mountain commment after comment. There is more than enough evidence to show and proove Choo Thomas is a false teacher. You have refused to look at the evidence, thus you cling to an idol you have made of vain imaginations and deceptions. I am not responsible for what you believe. Go away from this place and take your lies, and love of idolatry with you. Do not bother trying to comment. You are starting to bore me really bad and your comments of defense for this woman will go into trash.
Jan 26, 2011 @ 16:10:01
Dear RH,
I have put together a quite inclusive paper in both DOC and PDF formats that would be perfect for those who want to help their friends to see the deception in both Choo Thomas and her book. You have my email address. I would like to send this document and PDF to you for review and if you think it would be great for your readers to have access to, I will leave it up to you on how to post it and allow people to download it from your site. I believe it will be a great resource and tool to help believers to take into their worlds and deliver people from this deception.
In His Service,
Dale
Feb 03, 2011 @ 16:07:32
Dale, leave the link her if you want. If others want to take a look, it is ok by me.
Feb 05, 2011 @ 04:29:48
redeemedhippiesplace,
Just wanted to say, your arguments are very bold & logical. The book Is basically saying the bible isn’t enough… The point you made about the blood being “not filthy, but so pure it covers our sins” is very true. Also, there is a lot of favoritism throughout the book. I felt as though i wasn’t good enough for God’s use. I felt very left out. I mean, there must be Many more faithful & obedient Christians in the world. Even the video is pretty strange since it has the music in the background & makes us enter “into a state of hypnosis”. Looking back, i read the book more often than the bible; i even had a dream once that there was a ball of light growing bigger & bigger near my bed- needless to say i went to school & told my bible teacher i had seen Jesus. He read 2 Corinthians 11:14 to me. What Choo said about the bedrooms/powder rooms/babies in a warehouse, etc. left me very confused. She had experienced so many privileges, that i had been very angry about it for a long time. I began to be extremely obedient, to see if God would think me worthy enough (as Choo) to see such visions– Though, i don’t recall there having been any great blessings in my life while being so obedient. I wasn’t sacrificing things out of love for Christ. It was out of what i believed he would bless me with. “Heaven is so Real” compares itself to the bible, & i no longer believe the words written in it.
Thank You, Brother in Christ
Feb 06, 2011 @ 01:42:58
Rocio, i am glad you have been set free fro the influence of Choo Thomas. I believe a sign of any cult, is the ability to make others feel not as “blessed” if they are not receiving the impartations, the visits of “jesus” or seeing “angels” around every other corner. Cults tend to put their followers in types of cast systems; you have the have’s and the have nots. Obviously if you are not having “jesus” show up and dance with you, then one is not spiritual in their eyes. What does God say, Rocio? His word says, “I am accepted in the Beloved.” It does not depend upon feelings of self-worth or otherwise. It does not depend upon if man deems you important or spiritual enough. It is God who accepts us. His acceptance is more than enough.
When watching the apostacy unfold, I am often reminded of the scripture that says, “comparing themselves among themselves, they became fools.” Let us both remember that we are accepted in the Beloved and may we never compare ourselves with those who profess to be more than they are. You never have to be angry because others may appear to have soemthing you do not. God gives good gifts to His children, as you know, I am sure. The fact that He opened your eyes and set you free, is a gift indeed.
You mentioned a blue light you saw while in bed. I had what seems to be the very same experience years ago right after i came out of the occult. If you have not done so by now, please ask God to remove every bit of influence Choo Thomas had on you. Immerse yourself in the Word for His word is our sword.
I praise God in my heart right now that you have been set free, Rocio. May God use YOU in the days to come to help others see and know the truth. God bless you, my brother!
Feb 08, 2011 @ 17:51:55
My pastor gave me (and the whole congregation) Heaven is so Real, telling us he wants us to see how close the end really is. I read the book, trying to believe everything that was in it because I trusted that my pastor wouldn’t give us something false. After I finished it, I went through of day of deep depression and pain, thinking that God loved this woman more than he would ever love me and that there was no way I would ever be worthy enough for heaven. I cried for hours. I talked to one of my Christian mentors, and we both seemed to feel God pulling on us that it is false. I begged God for my forgiveness for not seeing that Choo Thomas is a liar, and I thanked him for letting me see the truth. I have no desire to judge this woman or to condemn her, but this book caused me so much pain and confusion. I’m not sure what this means about my pastor, as I truly believe he thinks that the book is true. I have always thought that we had a very spirit-filled church, but recently (even before reading the book) I’ve felt that maybe we’re moving in a direction that is away from God. Maybe him giving the whole congregation this book is just a confirmation of this.
Feb 08, 2011 @ 18:58:31
Kelsey, I am so sorry you went through so much grief over this book. However, I rejoice with you that you have been set free and He who the Son sets free is free indeed. Do not ever be afraid to test anything that goes on within church. If you get a check in your spirit, it probably is God giving you a little nudge to let you know something is quite not right. As far as your pastor — you are not commanded to trust his every thought, idea or beliefs. You are to put the Word of God above anything and everything; above men, above pastors — and yes, even above me. False teachers/prophets,pastors will not want you to do this. But you must. I thank God that you have a friend who together you both can test things, lift each other up. Pray about taking what you believe to be the truth, to your pastor. If he does not want to hear, my suggestion is to flee from that church. Do not let anyone tell you this would be rebellion. It is not. It is a call to not compromise with apostates and apostate followers. Go and speak to him — if he will not hear, then shake the dust off your feet and move on. If you continue to stay in such a setting, your soul would be vexed and possibly more deception come upon you. This is all just my opinion. You are called and commanded to test even my words, sister. Please let me know how it goes, one way or the other. I will be praying for you.
Feb 08, 2011 @ 19:02:29
Kelsey, please look at the top of this blog and see where it says, “Concerns about Heaven is so Real.” I just met a new brother in the Lord who has done much research in CT’s book. Feel free to read what he has said and decide whether to let your pastor see it or not. IF after seeing the above writing and someone still want to cling to this book, more than likely they are wanting their ears tickled very badly and have no love for the truth.
My brother has done an excellent job in exposing the lies in this book.
Feb 09, 2011 @ 00:20:29
Thank you very much for your words, they give me a lot of comfort and encouragement. Me and my mentor are going to approach my pastor about this. I spoke to one of the elders in our church today and she is equally as upset about him giving the book out, since she also can see it is false. It seems that in the beginning he thought it was very accurate, and is now himself having doubts about it. I plan to take some of the evidence from this site that the book is evil with me when I talk to him about it. I found your comment about how I shouldn’t completely trust my pastor without testing very helpful. I sort of always just trusted everything he said and did because I figured he’s the head of our church so he must be the most connected to God. I will make sure to test everything he says with God’s word from now on. Thanks for all your help! I feel at peace today, a peace which can only come from God, my hope has returned. Thanks again.
Feb 09, 2011 @ 02:46:01
Kelsey, it seems like there are already a lot of people where you are at who are questioning the book. This is a good thing. Yes, may you and your small band of women take your concerns to the pastor. If he truly has a heart for truth, he will not only listen — but hear you. Sounds like he may be a man who is willing to come to the light if he is even having doubts about the book. If so, then he would not be a hireling. He would be a man in search of the truth. Go in peace to him and may your words not fall on deaf ears. No telling how God will use all of it to bring others out of the darkness and deception of Choo Thomas.
Remember this: just because someone has a position, does not mean they are any closer to God than you. Do not be intimidated by anyone’s position, ever. God is to be your plumbline on how to judge things. Not man.
God bless you sister.
Feb 09, 2011 @ 15:58:04
Thanks again so much, I’ll be sure to let you know how things turn out. God bless!
Feb 10, 2011 @ 02:46:04
I just finished reading the online version of this book and the more I read the more disturbing it was. I started getting confused and all most fearful. I didn’t like the Jesus that she wrote about and much of what she said happened, saw and what “Jesus” told her just didn’t line up with the Bible.
All along I am think something just isn’t right here, or is it me. Little grace but a lot of works, a third eternal place outside of Heaven or hell??
After umtenth trips to Heaven and hearing “Jesus” say the same things over and over, it was almost repulsive. Then the cooking of the fish? What happened to no death in Heaven, did they cook and eat a live fish? Push button cook surface, push button boat, her vision of the house and red car he was going to give her??
This is not from the Bible or the Jesus I have a personal relationship with.
My conclusion – false prophecy and it sounds like a lot of others think the same way.
Feb 10, 2011 @ 03:12:27
Dandylion, you are not alone with your discernment and observations. Many are coming out of the darkness after being in CT’s book and stepping into the real light and truth. I’m like you, what little I had learned was Choss’ “jesus” was not someone I liked at all. That “jesus” is a fake, a fraud, an imposter. An image of a vain imagination put there by deceiving devils. What surprises me more than anything, are the seasoned christians — those up in years, who believe this tripe. How on earth do we fellowship with those who have no desire to test things and believe everything coming down the pike? I hope and pray God will use YOU to open up blind eyes concerning those caught inthis deception. May they have ears to hear you.
Feb 12, 2011 @ 06:20:51
The book is off and wrong…it IS deception, she IS deceived, she IS a false prophet…and I have read many articles on how she is affected by possible possession and the kundalini energy and demons associated with it.
I do not support or agree with her in any way, HOWever, my history–in a nutshell- with this book goes something like this: I was in a bad place spiritually when I read it, and it REALLY shook me up, false or not, it shook me out of the place I was in. After having what was basically a fear-filled spiritual meltdown over the whole thing, I started reading the bible again (which I hadn’t in years at that point)…and things went from there. Took me awhile to get away from this book as several discussed it with me and a deacon friend went over, point by point, how what she said was off, wrong, and demonic…..but I guess you could say God used to initially shake me up, and he managed to do so pretty good. I had LOTS of fear over it for awhile and went through trying to clean myself up again etc…
Still, I’m convinced she’s false these days. The book was taken from me, literally, and never returned—by a friend. Let’s just say I DON’T miss it.
Feb 15, 2011 @ 15:12:42
I have not finished reading the book, I was confused at all but God show me find this link. Many thanks to you brother in Christ!
This link may help to those wh0 are decieved.
http://theredskywarning.blogspot.com/2008/05/choo-thomas-evil-shows-another-side.html
Feb 15, 2011 @ 16:27:03
mrbongrydska, I hope you have come to the realization that the book is false and she is representing a different Jesus than the one we read in the Bible. Feel free to go to the top of the page and look at “Concerns for Heaven is so Real.” The brother who wrote it has done his homework.
Mar 10, 2011 @ 11:08:27
Thank you for this….reading your post and the following comments has once and for all confirmed what my first spirit felt, that Choo Thomas’ book is indeed complete deception.
Thank you Jesus for those who can truly discern the truth from the concocted lies of the evil one.
Mar 18, 2011 @ 04:22:48
was curious at the part of the book where Jesus told Choo that it was His birthday, and that His birthday was on Dec. 24th. would Jesus really say His b-day was on a day that originally was a pagan day that ended up being Christianized? Jesus’ B-day was most likely in early Oct, or around then, so despite all the other things that seem on or off, this is what bothered me.
June
Mar 18, 2011 @ 21:15:31
June, I’m with you — neither do I believe the real Jesus would give His birthday. What would be the purpose? Choo is either one big liar or very delusional. In either case, it still makes her a liar. For she is creating a “jesus” contrary to the Word of God. I’m very glad you aren’t swallowing her garbage.
Mar 29, 2011 @ 00:17:08
Hi! I came across this site while researching CT and her book, testing, as God tells us to do, and I thank you for connecting me with more scripture references and ways that this testimony conflicts with the Word of our Lord Jesus. I spent some time in Hebrews after coming across her testimony, and found that the scripture she uses from Hebrews 4 to try to convince us that we must make ourselves pure to enter heaven is grossly out of context. If one reads the entire chapter and goes on to chapter 5, one finds that Christ is the High Priest who grants us mercy and grace for our disobedience, and that He is the only way we can even approach the Father.
I have no blog of my own; I tend to read more than I write
But, RH, if you have a newsletter, or anything, I would love to be a part of it.
Jan 04, 2012 @ 00:16:37
I have also read CT’s book a few years ago…..I was in total awe in the beginning, but I grew increasingly doubtfull as to weather this is truly from God or not. Everything was about focussing on ourselfes, on our sin and about our faithfullness, when acctually its all about Jesus and what He has done for us on the cross.
It was great reading all of your testimonies and encouraging to know how faithfull our Lord is . The Holy Spirit also prompted me to put down the book, so I did not read to the end.
He is faithfull even when we are not!!
Blessings
Marc
Mar 30, 2011 @ 13:25:09
Hi RH
Also it has been a shock to me to discover this site. I have always been interested in the subject of heaven and hell and when I saw her book I immediately bought it. I have read it twice and I also felt that I am lost because how am I ever going to be good enough to go to heaven. In any way, can you ever? It’s a free gift, but bought with a price so costly. I do not understand how I could not have discerned that the book was not from God? I do however know that I also felt depressed after reading it and wanted to give up because I felt it impossible to be saved. I know now that what is not possible for men is possible for God. What concerns me as well is the article about the Holy Spirit or false spirit. To speak in tongues is surely from the Holy Spirit, however a someone has said that it has all to do with self control as the Holy Spirit is gentle and not judging you. I still believe in manifestations of the Holy Spirit but I do know that not everything you see is from the Holy Spirit. I pray that the LORD will give me and everybody that needs it the gift of the discerning of the spirits to enable me to do not be led astray. I have again asked the LORD to keep me in His hands and safe me and destroy all the works of the enemy in my life because of the things I believed, which now seems to be wrong. I know we should not be confused but I have been for some time. I trust that the LORD will show me in His Word what is the right way. RH did you finish your readings about Retha Mcphearson and her son Aldo. I have been following their journey and even attended a woman’s conference where she spoke about what happened to her son. To me her and her son’s experience is real. It has not made me fearful like with CT book. I know this blog relates to CT, however I would appreciate your comments about Retha. Any comments about John G Lake? Thank you for your blog as it helps us to sometimes stand still and think about what we are accepting into our lives. We have to guard our thoughts and our hearts at all times. Be blessed.
Mar 30, 2011 @ 21:18:12
Lana, you are right: none of us will ever be “good enough” to enter heaven. Only the blood of Jesus makes us worth anything. He said, “It is finished.” There is nothing you or I can add to that. It is enough.
As far as Retha, I have not been able to do much research research on her or her son at the moment. However, it seems like one more typical heaven story. I do not believe that her son went to heaven any more than I believe Choo Thomas and countless others.
At some point (I don’t know when) I want to do a study on it and put it up, but for now…well, nope, can’t say I give her story any more credence than I do Choo Thomas.
Whether or not you have fear, is not the way to judge something. Does it line up with the Word? Especailly when Paul has said, “ Eye has not seen, nor ear heard,
nor have entered into the heart of man the things which God has prepared for those who love Him.”
I don’t see these “experiences” in scripture. And I do not feel obligated to just take the word of someone — child or not.
John Lake? False. Instead of focusing on such people, Lana, and wondering if there is anything you can glean from them, how about focusing on the saints of the Bible. None of them will ever steer us wrong.
Mar 31, 2011 @ 06:00:06
Hi RH
Thank you, yes the Bible must have the final say.
Apr 02, 2011 @ 23:08:46
One of the Apostles I think Paul mentions someone { said he wasn’t sure if he was in or out of the body that went to Heaven and was instructed, ” NOT ALLOWED” to mention what he saw! does anyone know where this scripture is located?l That would end this book nonsense!
Apr 08, 2011 @ 15:04:35
2 Corinthians 12:2-4 are the verses. But the day and the age we are living in has been prophesied about. People will not listen to sound doctrine because they have itching ears. No matter how much truth you show them, they still will protect Choo Thomas and her book. Thank the Lord that you can see clearly.
Apr 09, 2011 @ 20:53:12
Thank you Dale. You have said it simple enough for a child to understand. May others see and understand your words.
Unfortunately, this post alone has gotten very heavy with comments. Making it hard to load and extremely hard to work with. I am giving you the last say on this page. However, I do have one question for you: knowing what we do about those who have itching ears — does it make them those who are perishing because of not having love for the truth? So many I personally know are not testing anything.
Apr 11, 2011 @ 14:45:18
RH, because only God knows what will eventually happen in the lives of people with itching ears before their death, I have learned to concentrate on the job the Lord has given me. 1 Corinthians 3:8-9 says, “Now he who plants and he who waters are one, and each one will receive his own reward according to his own labor. For we are God’s fellow workers.”
RH, I believe that we previlaged to have the very unique job of being God’s scarecrows. Our work in God’s field is to try and keep the crows away from destroying the Lord’s crops. But sometimes the crows get in anyway and we have no way of knowing how much damage has been done until harvest time. I personally know of devout Christians who have been deceived by ‘Heaven is so Real’. I can only pray and continue to speak the uncompromised Word of God. The rest is in the Lord’s hands.
RH, please keep up the great work you are doing and stand encouraged!
May 30, 2011 @ 21:42:20
I just got Choo’s book and have read about 70 or so pages, and I find contridictions that are plain and obvious. Abraham is old looking in heaven[not scriptual] but Choo looks like a teenager because in heaven no one grows old, sooo, which one is it?
They go to a powder room and constantly change crowns and robes…really? She sits at the right hand of Jesus Christ, in what appears to be a miniture or private throne room. Here is the clintcher…she has a big silver bed in her mansion in heaven, sorry, but what for? It really is like “Disney”!!!
Jun 13, 2011 @ 20:13:06
Jim D, I am glad there are those of you out there who can actually read the book and then come back here and give us all the information. Your points are very valid and note-worthy. May people see them and have their eyes opened! Yet, there will be those who still will come here and defend her teachings.
Jun 24, 2012 @ 00:23:59
Hippie, I saw your comment to Jim D about it being good that people who’ve read the book can come on here and give details that don’t sit right with them and don’t line up with scripture, so I thought I’d add one that I haven’t seen mentioned (but I could have missed it in all the comments!). At one stage in “heaven” Choo Thomas claims that she and Jesus had a barbeque and they caught and killed a fish and cooked it. KILLED a fish? Killed something in heaven? That seemed so ridiculous as did the fact that she said Jesus pushed a button on the barbeque to get it started! By the time I’d gotten this far into the book my spiritual antennae were twitching a lot. Her book causes a lot of confusion in one’s mind – enough said.
Jun 25, 2011 @ 01:22:11
I think this story is B.S. It is very similar to the testimonies of Angelica Zambrano, And Mary K. Baxter…When they claim Jesus took them to hell they claim he showed them how people lived and why they were in hell. But Jesus is NOT going to tell your business we have enough of our own to worry about we don’t answer to some quack. Also the children in hell thing…Um NO…Not happening, How is a 7 yr old going to be able to comprehend? Sure you can have knowledge of Jesus but I feel you don’t fully know until teenage yrs…Me personally I don’t think I fully understood until I was about 16-18. (Now 19)…Also they have a way of putting a scare tactic/cult feeling on it they’re theory is if you cuss someone out before getting shot or hit by a bus you automatically go to hell and that is NOT BIBLICAL…We are saved by grace not our niceties or good works
Jun 27, 2011 @ 20:13:41
Aaron, I agree it is B.S. For Choo Thomas to even say Jesus told her it was His endtime book and He wanted everyone to read it is such horse dung. Really. What constantly amazes me are the people who will believe anything. Young baby Christians, I can understand. But when people get to be my age, forget it. There is NO rexcuse for such ignorance.
Jul 01, 2011 @ 00:28:51
@ redeemedhippiesplace: I know…It is sh hideous…They get so upset when you question it too…Like WTH?
Jul 01, 2011 @ 09:41:40
Aaron, people always get upset when you question their idols.
Jul 04, 2011 @ 00:25:54
redeemed hippie my question to you is that
did the Holy Spirit tell you to say all these things against choo thomas?
becareful i am not talking about you having a feeling of peace to do it, because that could be flesh, did the Holy Spirit tell you do write these things?
Jul 04, 2011 @ 17:10:44
alcinda, I always have peace when I expose the false teachings and lies of abomnible occult teachers/followers. Did you bother to
even read any of the information that has been put up on this blog? Did you not read any of the comments of those who have come out from under her teachings? Do you dare not test all things as we are commanded to?
Now I ask you, what spirit you are, when you uphold false teaching? Perhaps it is one of being blind, deaf and dumb — one of apathy and laziness of not testing things. If anyone needs to take heed, it is you. For you follow
a different gospel and a different jesus if you adhere to her teachings. I’ve told you the truth. Now it is up to you to decide which jesus you will follow.
Jul 09, 2011 @ 14:31:47
I remember how much Choo’s book scared me when I read it as a kid. I remember being so afraid for myself and the people around me and being really scared of God because he seemed cruel. I recently went to her website and noticed that a lot of her posts had the kind of hysterical tone that makes you want to cringe and rip your hair out. You could take a look at it if you want. Thank you for raising some very valid points about Choo(: It helped me put a lot of things into perpective
Indeed, the Bible is the ultimate guidebook for our lives:D Continue what you are doing and I’ll be sure to favourite this page!
Jul 13, 2011 @ 01:44:28
nixChan, so glad that you have been able to see the falseness in this book. God is so good to lead us in His Truth. Be blessed.
Jul 11, 2011 @ 08:36:30
redeemedhippiesplace – THANK YOU!! This awful book really upset me and made me question my faith – I am a new Christian so am finding it tricky to navigate my way around “christian” literature – its so dangerous how easily we can be tricked into negative and incorrect beliefs by these apparant “experts” on Jesus and our Father – I do believe many are not evil in themselves but are being used by the enemy sadly – I am sure Jesus will save them too. Sound knowledge of scripture will triumph I’m sure! ( I am a redeemed “hippy” too and have read hundreds of “self help” “occult” books and am shocked how easily I was sucked in to this one ). Thank you again you are a blessing
Jul 13, 2011 @ 01:42:15
None, I am glad you have the discernment to see the errors in this book. For a “new” Christian, you are way ahead of some of those who have been a Christian for decades! You be blessed and may God continue to lead you in HIS Truth!
Sep 05, 2011 @ 00:40:30
RH i too have found her book from the devil himself. i read the whole thing and for about 3 weeks after i had a heavy burden and not sure what it was until a friend of mine mentioned that he was reading the same book and had depressed feelings. We immediatly shred the book in dozen pieces!
In her book there is truth mixed with lies and that is exactly what satan does thus he deceives the people that has a lack of bible knowledge that’s all i know bcz it happend to me too.
Do not be scared to test ALL things given to you except that we know the bible is the written word of God.
Oct 20, 2011 @ 04:27:30
Hello. I saw that book on a store, and thought about buying it, but I didn’t do it. I read some pages and I kinda liked them, meaning that she said many things that sure sounds like if it were true. Now after reading this I guess I don’t need to buy it. If I am to consider a book so I can know the Lord better than I do know, it will be the Bible, because I’m sure that it has not gotten to this generation for nothing, so I think that the Bible is the only way to get to know our Savior Jesus Christ. Any other book is just inspired by the Bible, or at least in theory they are inspired, although not all of those books written by common people are worthy of reading it in order to better understand God. God bless you all!!!!!!!!!!
Nov 07, 2011 @ 12:23:32
sorry to admit, i also bought the book. i had bad vibes, as soon as i began reading the book! my heart and spirit told me “Stop Reading it!” Nothing like that has ever happened to me before. i just knew i had to listen! i only made it up to page 17, before i threw it in trash. ~ “My Special Daughter” she writes. yea right! we are all his “special sons and daughters”. i am thankful i belong to the Sheep Nation, not the Goat Nation. God Bless, RH! Great Blog!
Nov 09, 2011 @ 19:42:58
Thank You ! my name is nickey and i’ve read choo’s book, and it was utterly confusing, if a person truly have wisdom in the Word OF GOD they wil realise alot of the things she say is contradicting to the Bible for instance the Bible clearly states that it is appointed man once to die and then to face judgement where every man will have to answer for his own deeds and judged according and then it will be decided if the person will have eternal life or endure the second death ….WHERE DID THIS WILDERNESS THING COME FROM! … John 3:16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (he dint say if u dint believe in him or obey him enough u will wander ina wilderness) u eithr choose life by acepting Christ and livin in obedience to his word or u chose death by rejecting him …. ur eithr a sheep or a goat, obedient or disobedient, hot or cold, walkin in light or walkin in darkness, on the narrow road to life or on the wide road to destruction THERE IS NO IN THE MIDDLE
revelation 3:14 14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
Nov 09, 2011 @ 20:58:18
“Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, nor have entered into the heart of man the things which God has prepared for those who love Him” (I Corinthians 2:9)”
Nov 22, 2011 @ 11:40:50
i bought that book earlier this year and read it. I have found it to be very confusing and anti-Word and i stopped reading it.
Dec 13, 2011 @ 09:45:28
choo thomas has been decieved.by demons,she never tested the spirit,other websides is the same like hell testemonies and heavan testemonies those people clam a lot buth not one of them tested the spirit ever,later you will find out that we need to earn end do more,I tell you to make sure your own soul is right with God is difficult enough we are bought by the Blood of Jesus the word says if you confess with your mouth and believe you are saved,we all fall short of the glory of God, satan wants to let us know that we need to earn our salvation with works,but it is all grace from God again no one can stand right before God we are under grace ,you do not have to look good for your pastor so you can inpress God it is all grace, lots of love Geert
Jan 02, 2012 @ 03:41:49
Hello I just want you to say to redeemedhippie, thank you for sticking to your guns with this one. I cant believe that people are defending this woman. I also believe that she is a fraud. I just dont understand her motive for this.
Jan 15, 2012 @ 20:22:56
I recently left comments about Choo Thomas’s book but they have been removed. I do not consider her book as one from God at all. I also was especially concerned that she speaks of the Blood of Christ as being filthy with the sins of the people. His BLOOD is not tainted by that which He cleanses. I do not know who came and took her to what she believed was Heaven or who she believed was Jesus. She was deceived and she is causing others to be deceived as well. We are to go by Scripture, God does not need another book to show Heaven is Real. He does not need another like John who wrote Revelation. It is very sad the people are believing that the Bible is not enough.He needs another book here in the end times to prove Heaven is real and Choo is chosen to write this book. It is due to ignorance of the Word of God that these things are being accepted and believed. The Blood of Jesus is pure and clean. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying. He is HOLY, His Blood is HOLY, His WORD is Holy and complete. Go to HIM only and do not listen to any one who tells you otherwise or that there are others ways for the Bible is enough. Know the Word so that you will not be taken by that which is not scriptural. Stay in the Word and before the Lord for there is much to deceive in these Last Days. Do not be ignorant of the Word for that will make one easy to deceive. Study the Word. Read the Word. Pray and get to know His Voice, scripture says My people hear my voice and another they will not follow. He will come soon and we must be ready. Any one can claim they are anointed and can write any thing and it seems strange to me that one who claims to be a believer will accept what anyone says is from God.
Jan 15, 2012 @ 21:28:13
Wanda, I removed your comments because for some reason you asked me to? I was a little baffled why you would ask. But perhaps I had you mixed up with someone else. As I said before thank you for the wonderful comment. May others read what you say and be convinced of the truth. God bless you!
Jan 21, 2012 @ 04:33:11
I purchased the book on e-bay, at a very low price thankfully. Read the book, cover to cover, then burned it in the trash barrell.
I believe this book to be false doctrine. I also believe that choo thomas is possessed and has been deceived by an evil spirit.
Her body shakes uncontrollably in preparation to meet with Jesus? There are cows in heaven, there is a bed in her mansion? There is a warehouse full of aborted babies and their real mother gets to raise hers if she had accepted Christ and makes to heaven? Her old church is now cursed because they wouldn’t let her dance? The rapture is going to occur in the late 1990′s?
My advice is spend time with the Word of God, the Holy Bible.
Jan 21, 2012 @ 06:25:30
Correction to my last comment. She said a major war was going to happen in 1998, not the rapture. My mistake, it’s been a month or so since I read the book and burned it.
Feb 26, 2012 @ 00:29:49
Thank God so much for this blog. I thought I had studied the Bible pretty well for many years and even so, I felt wrapped around in Cho’s fine and interesting descriptions of Heaven, specially the accounts of nature. At the same time I was losing my peace of mind and doubting we are saved by grace for the love of God in Jesus Christ. Within all the beauty and the dreaming, the lies were hidden. Thanks and God bless you.
Mar 10, 2012 @ 22:40:41
God loves all of his children equally. He even loves the evil ones that have given their lives to Satan. This woman is working for Satan, whether she believes it or not. Thank you Redeemed Hippie for making this website to show how her book is full of lies. Jesus works through us all as Christians to help spread his teachings, which can only be found in the Bible. He does not want us to live in fear of him, which is the way he is portrayed in this book. There is not one perfect person in heaven, because none of us are perfect.
Mar 13, 2012 @ 15:46:09
THIS BOOK IS A DECEPTION STRAIGHT FROM HELL.WHEN I WAS A YOUNG CHRISTIAN I READ IT AND THOUGH I LIKED THE PART OF HEAVEN WHICH DESCRIBES THE BEAUTY I FELT THAT SALVATION WAS NEVER SURE TILL THE LAST MOMENT SOMETHING WAS WRONG…..IT WAS ONLY YEARS LATER AS I GREW IN THE LORD THAT I REALISED THIS WAS DECEPTION AND PUT IN SUCH A ROSY FORM CAN DECEIVE ANYBODY.
Apr 03, 2012 @ 19:56:01
Is it true that Mrs. Thomas’s book was/is endorsed by Dr. David Yonggi Cho? It is to my understanding that he wrote the foreword.
Apr 04, 2012 @ 15:48:24
Ezekial, yes, he wrote the forward.
Apr 09, 2012 @ 09:00:58
I have read the book 3 years ago thinking that her heaven is like what she describes in her book…and i kinda imagined that Heaven but feels something is weird. I just researched about her book now to know what other people says about it and their observations. I kinda questioned her description of heaven that there is like a 3rd place for disobedient Christians, which the bible does not mention. We all know there is only Heaven and Hell. Also, her dancing in front of the platform, how can people concentrate on the pastor’s preaching or worship service if she dances in front and not at the back?!
She has put some lies in her book and mixed the truth about Jesus so we may believed that the whole book is speaking the truth! i just realized that now…thanks to this blog! Before, I “kind of” believed her experiences because her book gives praises to our Lord and wants to bring people to Christ. But there are just some things that are not right (which i mentioned earlier).
Overall, let’s not argue about her book. Just read 1 book and that’s the Bible! which is written by God for us to know everything.
Apr 09, 2012 @ 15:22:00
It is important that we address her book and here is why: Many are being taken by her words which are not truth and leading many astray. We can not be silent as books such as this that tickle the ears of some due to not knowing scripture, being ignorant of scripture will cause many to fall, many to believe a lie. Scripture says my people are destroyed for a lack of knowledge…..a lack of knowledge of what? Of the Word. You are correct in telling others to read one book, the Bible for we can trust Him and not in any man. We are to look to or believe or trust in no man, ever. We are to search the scriptures for ourselves then we will know the truth. We are told to try every spirit. Some, not knowing scripture, accept what tickles their ears, pretty words may sound good to some and being so special tempts many to want that. What many do not realize is that you and all are special, so special that He died for us. Staying with the Word is the best advice anyone can give and you said that loud and clear. People run to get books and do not open their Bible. They run to hear this preacher or that preacher, best to run after Yeshua for He will not fail us and will lead us into ALL TRUTH. We are to be guided by the Spirit and not what others say no matter how pretty the words may sound. Let us pray that others will be led to the truth. This website has done much good. Most adore this book. wow. Sad.
May 05, 2012 @ 20:30:26
Hi, I have also read most of CT’s book, at first I thought it somewhat credible but then when I read the part where she said the Lord said many christians were poor because they DON’T tithe, and that because of their disobediance they will end up in ‘you know where’ really crushed me! (I no longer tithe but give offerings. Malachi 3:10 is under LAW).
When I read this I felt so down. When I DID used to tithe, there were occasions when I sometimes didnt pay the tithe and after this I felt dejected and under condemnation! But now I feel at peace. Her comments brought me back under condemnation!
Also, the ‘Christmas Eve’ heading caught my attention! THe Lord got dressed up because “it’s my birthday” ??????????????? firstly we’re told he was born in september or october and secondly this sounds WEIRD!!!!! I am troubled by this book and not encouraged!!! any comments???
Jun 12, 2012 @ 10:39:25
I agree that her book is quite confusing. i wondered about the place for disobedient christians as there is no bible reference. it is great wisdom to make the Bible our final authority and ask for the Spirit of God to keep our minds from deception. if we can live Holy lives and ask for grace to make heaven, God will help us get to there to see for ourselves after we are raptured right?! May Jesus help us all and grant us the grace to focus on him and not be distracted.
Jun 14, 2012 @ 23:22:13
Nice to meet you. Thank you for your blog.
I am searching for Yaweh and Yashua’s direction. I am afraid of religion, but know the bible to be true, and know prayer is answered, even though I am probly the LEAST worthy, he still answers my prayers when I deserve it the least.
Jun 26, 2012 @ 14:29:52
I do not like “religion” either. Christianity is not a religion, it is a living One. None others have a living God and He is our Creator. Staying with the Bible, studying, meditating will bring growth. No other books can do what the Bible does. None of us are worthy but He did it for us because of His Love for us.
You can ask God anything and He will get the answer to you. After I had been a believer for many years, the Lord told me to learn Hebrew things so I did and that was 25 years ago. The Hebrew Alphabet, the letters are all about our Lord. The Seven Feasts of the Lord reveal much about out Lord. Reading the Bible through is exciting, I remember how I laughed and I cried. We live under the New Covenant, the Last Will and Testament of Jesus Christ, our Yeshua, our Messiah. We fall more in love with Him daily. He is hurt when we have no time for Him but He will not show His hurt to us. He has allowed me to love Him and I will be forever grateful, He did not have to do this yet He did freely. How could we not help but love Him…who is…Enjoy your studies, He plans your path. Ahh..what a life it is loving Him and learning of Him, the relationship we have with Him now will be the relationship we shall have for all eternity. That is my most precious gift from Him, knowing Him is nothing less than wonderfully amazing and we work on that relationship daily, all day long. He is in our thoughts continuously. Enjoy the trip…I have regretted many things but never knowing Him. He has been the greatest blessing of my life, being allowed to know Him and love Him as much as I wanted. I am glad for your hunger for more of Him. It will yet grow. He will satisfy the longing of your heart. Run after Him. He is worth it. To me it is a great gift, that He allows me to love Him.
Jun 27, 2012 @ 18:32:47
Hi RedeemedHippie!
A very close friend of mine, sister in Christ recommended i read this book, she told me it changed her life. Ofcourse i know her to be a dramatic person sometimes and a charismatic follower and she seeks prophets who can tell her future and ways to speak to God directly. I myself used to be such a person, but now i am beginning to know the Lord sometimes speaks directly, or in the Word of God or through fellow church members. Well i was in a cultish church group for long and i know about cult leaders telling you that they are the ones and they have the revelations and we should all follow them or else we lose our salvation or lose something with God and there is alot of peer pressure to get saved and to be right with God. It is so sad the negative comments you have recieved for your review of the book. Your site has warned me not to read this book and i have just deleted this book pdf i downloaded! It is easy to be confused especially when we follow our “feelings” instead of the Word of God. A real believer will be able to discern what is from God and what is not…even Eve was decieved in the Garden of Eden..Satan twisted the facts! Maybe alot of people have turned their lives around after reading this book, but so have alot of people “changed” after being slapped silly!…what i mean to say is just because someone has changed outwardly by reading this book, it is not the inward change that only God can bring us by the Holy Spirit’s transforming work which is the real salvation and not a counterfeit mending of ways. When we repent we repent before God first right? It is but all inward. I am an avid reader and i have read books other then the Bible that have inspired me to start on something like when i read autobiographies it inspired me to find my own history etc. The Bible when read in the Spirit changes us not into “Church going, charity giving, Bible reading Christians” but changes our very nature to be Christ-Like! People don’t know this so they tell you, you’re wrong to critiscize this book! God have mercy on them
Jul 01, 2012 @ 16:55:54
Ahh. Roshini, this was revealed to you by the Holy Spirit. When we ask Him, He will get the answer to us. We can not, ever, trust in any man. We are to trust in Him alone. IF something is not in scripture I would not believe it. Some are running here and there to hear from God when they are able to go before Him and learn, studying scripture in earnest. Many only know scriptures they hear at church or on tv. I know one who believes every dream/vision & those claiming they have been to Heaven and seen Jesus and relate their story. That is not our source. We do not run after men, we run after God and that is what you are doing, Roshini. The one of whom I speak teaches this to those hearing and all error is taught to them, we are responsible for what we teach others.
Look only to Him and His Word, then you will know how to discern. We are to try the spirits to see if they are of God. It is tragic that many are believing lies. Scripture says men will call evil “good” and good “evil” and this is happening now. We are to love one another, pray for one another. Christians are the most persecuted people on the earth today, so much in the M.E. and now here in this country. All who say they are followers of Christ are not, they are deceived. Let us pray fro them. I loved your comments by the way. We can ask Him anything and He will answer us. I was a believer 20 years before I heard Him speak to me, now I am 70 this month and a believer since a child. I prayed always please do not let me be deceived. He has shown me many times that what I heard or read was not true. I learned not to run after teachers, preachers, prophets, or anyone but to stay in the Word. Anyone can claim anything, does not make it true. Yet many believe everything they hear, read, see. We grow in the Word, we learn in the Word. May we all see and hear what is true as truth is in Him and His Word which we can trust. Reading the Word is not study. It takes time to learn and investing time in the Word and with the Word…our relationship we establish here will be ours for all eternity. Our relationship with Him is a wonderful gift we can have now and can grow and grow..as much as we desire. He is coming and His reward is with Him, you see it is HE who is our exceeding great reward. We run after Him.
I do like your name….
Aug 25, 2012 @ 19:05:05
Thank you for your insight into this book. I had read it 3/4′s of the way through, and was really feeling disillusioned about my own salvation. God does know everything about me, but he also knows that I am far from perfect. The only way I could get to heaven was with a pure heart and being obedient. Only 20 % of Christians are pleasing God, according to this book. I didn’t stand a chance! When I told my friend about the sandy plain of Christians, he said” there are just two choices for eternity- smoking or non-smoking. I get my word from one Book.” I actually recommended this book to friends! Well, I am going back to the one correct source- the Bible- and stop wasting time on this one. Again, thank you for opening my eyes.
Sep 17, 2012 @ 02:01:08
Deborah Huffman, it wasn’t I who opened your eyes. It was a kind and merciful God. You had a desire for the truth and He led you to it. May He use you to help open the eyes of many others.
Nov 01, 2012 @ 14:23:48
Hi there, I have not yet read your blog and will read it soon, but I wish to state that my spirit was not happy, when I watched Choo’s DVD. It would have been great if it was real, but I seriously have my doubts. Her rocking to and fro when she talks about God … she said she had to, otherwise it hurts. I know many people deeply in love with Christ, as I am and none of us rock to and fro. Also, she mentioned that God blessed her with “the spirit of laughter” for 30 minutes. Nope, not scriptural … sounds and looks more like Kundalini spirit to me. Google Kundalini spirit videos and see the fits of laughter, shaking and rocking … Many of the things she said, made me feel uneasy. The Bible speaks of people who will say what the world wants to hear. It teaches that satan can appear as an angel of light. God gave us MANY guidelines and MOSTLY He gave us the Holy Spirit. The Bible teach us that our spirit testifies alongside Holy Spirit. There is only one Holy Spirit, thus the spirit of each true, born-again Christian, will testify alongside each other. If you are confused about Choo Thomas and many others like her, take a little time out to sit at the feet of Jesus and ask Holy Spirit for guidance to the truth. Jesus said: I am the Way, the Truth and the Life … May all who read this, be blessed with God’s Truth. Shalom! (PS: now I’m going to read your blog).
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Nov 01, 2012 @ 20:09:38
Ruth, I’m glad you see the truth about Choo Thomas and her teaching. Many don’t. Yes, I think Kundilini is at work there.
Nov 19, 2012 @ 05:00:22
Some interesting things claimed by Choo Thomas
She calls her book Lord Jesus’ end time book
For a while Jesus woke her every monday by shaking her violently for 30 minutes
Jesus showed her her family burning in hell
Jesus showed her a warehouse of dead aborted babies and said their mothers can have them back if they become saved
Jesus told her that people who recieve 666 will be tortured before being beheaded because satan will not allow them to give up easily
She says that she has to rock backwards and forwards or her stomach feels tight and feels like exploding and assures that this is the Holy Spirit because she is talking about Jesus
Jesus showed her a place with people in boiling oil trying to get out and demons throw them back in
Jesus showed her children burning and screaming “Why? Why did you not take us to sunday school
Read your bible and make up your own mind, I have made up mine
Dec 02, 2012 @ 15:45:04
Liam, great discernment you have going for you. Seems so simple, doesn’t it? Why oh why, can’t others see what you see? They would be much better off. Blessings to you.
Nov 21, 2012 @ 08:14:11
hello @redeemedhippiesplace .. i am reading the book as of the moment..
the first time i’ve read this book, yep, i was amazed..but i felt uneasy..i end up comparing myself to Choo Thomas .. i started to question God why is He treating her so special that i felt the jealousy..why is it not true in my life (everything written in her book) but honestly speaking, i admired her book.. i imagined as if God was talking to me instead of to the author..maybe, i just don’t have strong foundation that i was easily deceived..
i’ll just pray to God to open my Spiritual eyes to see what He wants me to see..
gosh!
if i haven’t read this entry of yours,
i’ll be producing a copy of HEAVEN IS SO REAL and give it to friends..
well..thanks for this
GodBless
Dec 02, 2012 @ 15:56:21
Myka Enrique, doesn’t it feel great to know you do not have to compare yourself with Choo Thomas? I would hate to think I had to have the experiences she says “god” gives her, in order for me to be loved by Him. What a yoke that would be! If we are to compare ourselves to anyone, it should be to Jesus and Him alone, right? We can be sure something is false when it points back to a person’s so-called “experiences” over the Word of God. God is not a respector of persons. If God is not, then why should we? i’m not talking about plain old human respect. That is one thing and that is good. But to begin believing that this one here or that one there somehow is more important to God, is wrong. I’ve seen more people (myself included) get under a yoke of bondage when we feel like we have to measure up to someone else. We do not. Just because one may appear to accomplish something, or actually accomplish a thing, does not make them any more special in God’s eyes. God is not impressed with man or Choo Thomas. Especially Choo Thomas. She is either a great liar or in such deception herself, that for her to teach such things puts her in danger of judgment. The only thing God is impressed with, is His Son. Now, isn’t it wonderful that as Christians, we do not have to live up to the standards of deceivers?
Dec 26, 2012 @ 13:15:05
I only read part of the book… And with all these eye opener, i don’t know who or what to believe any more…
My question now is ‘is christmas real’? What is the spirit behind christmas? Is christmas actually recognised by God?
Pls i need answers to these questions.. God bless you…
Dec 29, 2012 @ 14:39:45
Rebecca, I do not believe Christmas is recognized by God. There is no reason for me to think so. I suppose the “spirit behind Christmas” is what the indiviudal makes it as in any other day of the year.
Dec 29, 2012 @ 21:47:57
UNTO US A CHILD IS BORN, UNTO US A SON IS GIVEN…HE WAS NOT BORN ON THE DAY CALLED CHRISTMAS by the world.
THIS IS A PAGAN HOLIDAY. The early church did not celebrate His birthday. Neither is Easter, also based on pagan day. There is the Resurection Day when He arose. Study the early church. Men changed what they do based on many lies. God did not change, men did. Men who believed lies that crept in.
Just as God never changed the Sabbath Day, men did. Study so that you will know, ask Him to teach you and He will, He will never fail you. He will get the answer to you.
Bunnies, Santa Claus is also celebrated and are pagan and not about Our God. Rebecca, YOU can believe the Bible. That alone is what you should believe. Work on YOUR relationship with our Father Yahweh, our Redeemer Yeshua. Do not put your faith in one day, put it in Him alone, the Saviour who came to REDEEM us.
Even the Wise Men who came to see Him were not THREE…many speak of three wise men, it does not say how many Wise Men came. Our Faith is not based on one day, it is based on Christ and what He did.
Scripture from Genesis to Revelation is about Yeshua. It is all about Him and what He has done. He will return one day and we must be ready to be the Bride.
Many today seem to worship these days rather than the Saviour.
Have faith in our God alone, Rebecca. Study scripture. We are never, ever to trust in a man, go to God, ask Him for you can only put your trust in Him. Men lie, our Father Yahweh does not lie, neither does the Son Yeshua. Listen to Him and never in a man, do not put your trust in other than Himself.
I love this, it is said the reason God can not lie is that the moment He says it, it becomes the truth. You can believe Him, Rebecca.
Jan 07, 2013 @ 16:02:37
redeemedhippi…why did you delete my posting concerning choo thomas subject? I posted that I wont judge nor be on either your side or hers and that I will ask the HOLY SPIRIT if HE is the Author and that I was gonna get back with the truth. BUT you have deleted my POSTING so you dont want people to get wisdom from my godly postings with the Holy Scriptures I added …..I think it answers me who is really serving Jesus Christ here.
Jan 07, 2013 @ 16:23:26
Sarah, I was not aware that I did. I do not always get around to my comments every single day, so they stay in a folder until I can get to them. I have gone back and looked at comments and I do not see anything that I refused to post, but I will look again.
Jan 08, 2013 @ 00:44:43
I had to re-read your reply because I was so shocked. You hold yourself up to get the answer from the Holy Spirit and will get back to “redeemed hippie” when you do? You are saying she could not possibly have heard from the Holy Spirit and you will be the judge from what you learn. All should be able to discern what Choo says is wrong as it is not from scripture. The LORD WOULD ASK NO ONE TO WRITE AN END TIME BOOK FOR HIM, HE GAVE US SCRIPTURE AND IS HIS LAST WORD TO ALL.
He does not go to a person and say and do what she claims. One can claim anything but does not make it true. This is really in my opinion putting what this woman claims ABOVE what the Bible says, also not to add anything to scripture and she is doing this.
Your comments reveal you do not know whereof you speak. Your knowledge of scripture and all those who support Choo do so out of ignorance of the Word. The Lord needs no one to support His Bible, does not need any more books. I do not know who Choo spoke with, where she went, she was deceived, that I am sure.
It is amazing to me the number of those claiming they are believers, love the Lord, actually believe this woman’s claims. IF you know the WORD you know very soon this is not of God. He loves ALL believers. He does not have
“pets”, special ones. All are special. He died for ALL. He loves those who OBEY HIM.
I would say that Choo needs prayer, she needs deliverance. All who put what she says on par with scripture need the same. Many get off into what I call
la la land. Stay in the Bible, read it, study it, therein is truth. Therein is our path and not found in any one’s book. There is only one book of Truth and it is not the Book of Choo.
I say these things so that you might consider scripture our only book to follow.
Any other is the wrong book, the wrong road, the wrong voice to hear.
Says these things because we are to love one another and if we love one another we will tell the truth. God will lead you to all truth. One must study the Word. It is easy to tell when you know the Word when one opens their mouth, a knowledge of the Word reveals much, Sarah. Pray and ask God to show you where Choo gets it wrong, He will. There is much error.
The blind continue to lead the blind…passing on error to others makes one accountable to their learning error. The error in Choo’s book is great and it is very sad that one believes her and passes it on to others. We will be held accountable so we must be sure we are right. We pray those who are deceived will have their eyes and ears opened.
Jan 07, 2013 @ 16:33:04
Redeemedhippie….
1 Corinthians 12:3 KJV
“Wherefore I give you to understand , that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.” if choo thomas speaking abt Jesus Christ to lead people from going to hell but to heaven then she is just doing wat every child or follower of Jesus Christ shld be doing- you said she is leading or drawing people to herself-I see you are rather drawing people to your side- go through all your replies to postings and find out through the Holy Spirit-( that is if you are OPERATING in HIM,) you should see yourself luring people towards you- by not giving them the choice to decide but they should react according to you- & then u accept them, that is seduction- EVEN GOD almighty has given us the will to CHOOSE. you should allow the people to choose based on their own will BUT you luring them INCOGNITO to side with u- or else you wont POST their postings-hence u deleted my posting seeing I dont side easily with you or I have a doudting about you. and also DONT judge men & women of GOD before you really know them in the SPIRIT- dont BREAK SPIRITUAL PROTOCOL.
As our SAVIOR & LORD JESUS CHRIST loves all so do I. GOD BLESS u.
Jan 07, 2013 @ 21:44:16
Ok, Sarah, now I understand and this will be the very last comment I take from you regarding Choo Thomas. I probably did TRASH your comments, beings I can see you are advocating this heretic.
Now listen here, I do not draw people to my “side” as you call it, but to the truth of God as I see best. Many others with abilities greater than I, have been able to expound the truth greatly. You choose to draw people to Choo Thomas and I will not have it here.
This blog and these articles, along with the many many comments have more than enough proven Choo Thomas is a false teacher. What you want to believe is your buisness.If you are so intent on upholding the likes of her, then by all means open your own blog and do it, but it will not be done here. I have said, I will NOT keep going around the same old mountain with you people. So, if anyone came here in “incognito” it was you. I gave you the benefit of
the doubt thinking I possibly overlooked a decent comment you left. But you have not. You used this as a way to have your opinion posted. There, I have given it to you. Now leave this place if you want to keep endorsing Choo Thomas who is either one deluded woman or blatant liar. I have given
you the choice — you can either believe the articles that have been written
or you can continue to believe lies. The choice is yours. I don’t care whether you side easily with me or not. By the way, I am not obligated to post your comments. Consider it a favor if you even have one put up. I think I broke your SPIRITUAL PROTOCOL. Whatever that is. And I do not care.
Jan 08, 2013 @ 01:24:44
Sarah, Redeemed Hippie is not “luring” anyone. You make false charges and this is wrong. YOU never believe any book over scripture. Stick with scripture and throw all other books away, you then can grow in knowledge. You learn from scripture and not from the books of others.
Her claims are outrageous. Anyone who KNOWS the WORD knows right away that what she says is not of God. I do not know who Choo saw but it was not Yeshua. It was a spirit, one who deceives for she is deceived. She is leading others into deceit. You do not want that spirit. Get out of her book and into the Word for that is the ONLY place you will find the truth.
What is that about SPIRITUAL PROTOCOL? We are to be totally obedient, that is what the Lord requires, not that we dance with Him, be a special pet, be the only one He wants to write His End Time Book? Are you kidding me?
HE GAVE US THE BIBLE, THAT WAS IT. ALL ARE TOLD NOT TO ADD OR TAKE AWAY FROM SCRIPTURE.
SHE DOES THIS WITH HER CLAIMS OF HIS ASKING HER TO WRITE HIS END TIME BOOK SO OTHERS WOULD BELIEVE HEAVEN WAS REAL.
WHAT? WHY WOULD ANYONE BELIEVE THE BIBLE WAS NOT ENOUGH? IT WAS NOT COMPLETE? NO ONE BELIEVED HIM SO HE NEEDED HER TO PROVE IT FOR HIM?
This is sick. This is wrong. Why are people wanting to believe Choo over the Bible He gave us? Pray about it Sarah. What is important is that people are not led into error and this book leads people into error, even those claiming they are believers, claiming they KNOW THE WORD. ANYONE KNOWING THE WORD KNOWS THIS IS A BOOK OF LIES. Our Lord does not need the Book of Choo. I would also suggest the you search scripture for any hint of His needing someone to come along who would be special, who would write His End Time Book because what He did was not enough. YOU WILL NOT FIND IT.
All believers are special to Him, He died for ALL. We are to be totally obedient to Him. We get into the Word so we know how to live. Believing any other book over scripture in my opinion is sin. The Bible leads people to God, Sarah. Do you believe the Bible is not enough? Choose whom you shall believe? As for me I believe God and His Word alone. That is what a true believer believes. Ask Him He will show you all truth. You see books written to deceive may sound very good and that is why they deceive, people are caught in traps. Her book is a trap and many are taken in it. Get out while you can. This spirit draws people in and makes it sound so good so real. It is a complete lie. Believe the Word only and get rid of this Book of Choo.
Jan 08, 2013 @ 01:41:21
May I add one more comment, about the word “LURE” which you use accusing “Redeemed Hippie” of luring people here to “side with her”. I believe Choo’s book is a true LURE, catching many who believe Choo. It is a spirit casting a lure and catching many in that net of deceit. Your answers sound arrogant against her and Sarah, you are not fair. You think you are right, stop and search the Word and pray. You see your saying you will decide who is right is very arrogant. You NEVER compare the Book of Choo to scripture for scripture is always right.
One must understand they can be deceived. Pray and ask God that you not be deceived. Trying to prove what Choo says is scriptural is a trap, you believe the scripture you have in the Bible ONLY. Naturally Choo will say she wants to lead you to God…she believes only she knows and only she can show the way and the many deceptions she presents as from Him are NOT from Him yet people are believing it as much as they believe the Bible. This ought not be so.
It is called deception and will take one away from God and not towards Him.
We CHOOSE this day whom we will believe…looks like many are choosing the Book of Choo over the Bible. Think about it for you are making choices.
Sarah, I am praying for you. Search scripture and you will find the answer for it is only found there. Truth.
Jan 08, 2013 @ 01:54:42
Wanda, AMEN! And thank you for expounding. May Sarah get it.
Jan 08, 2013 @ 04:47:34
It is well, let God be the JUDGE in JESUS CHRIST name. I wish u all the best. I know the HOLY SPIRIT so I dont need man to discern to me…. 1 John 2:27 KJV
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. Gbu.
Jan 08, 2013 @ 14:24:10
sarah, good. I’m glad you have the Holy Spirit. Did the Holy spirit tell you it was ok to completely ignore Wanda’s comments and the many other warnings given here? Did the Holy Spirit tell you to let Choo Thomas teach you instead of Him?
Jan 08, 2013 @ 19:39:55
A big mistake of young Christians is to select their verse to support their view without rightly dividing the Word of God. In the case of Sarah, she is putting the cart before the horse. 1 John 2:27 comes only after the following two verses:
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, (II Timothy 3:16 NKJV)
Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. (II Timothy 2:15 NKJV)
The Holy Spirit inspired written Word of God always comes first and only then personal revelation follows. Personal revelation, if it is truly Holy Spirit inspired, will always align with the Bible. Since Choo’s book ‘Heaven is so Real’ very clearly does not agree with the Bible, any debate ends there. We are to stay away from it. We are commanded by the Holy Spirit:
Test all things; hold fast what is good. (I Thessalonians 5:21 NKJV)
I detected a dangerous attitude developing where young Christians are more attached to the voice they hear, than to Scripture itself. This is a sign of the times we live in. Lord help us all !
Jan 09, 2013 @ 10:46:35
Dale, I agree. Unfortunately, it is not just “young” Christians. It is the seasoned Christian, it is the middle aged and the senior citizen Christian who are putting experience and voices over the Word of God. This is what is sad, seeing people my age reading and endorsing her book. One would think they had never read the Bible in their life. But they have, and they much would rather have an experience of some sort — no matter who or what it is from.
Apr 02, 2013 @ 10:31:28
am currently reading that book.sincerely am also confused but….Jesus help me AMEN.
Apr 02, 2013 @ 12:39:06
charles, you are confused because you are reading the book. Stop reading the book. Stick to the Word of God.
Apr 21, 2013 @ 12:00:34
I’ve experienced forceful shaking and jerking of my body,blankets pulled when i was dealing with incubus.Choo Thomas has been visited by a god (demon) and i would never think that my experience of such things would be from God Almighty.God has all ready given us His word,He doesn’t need anyone to prove authenticity of Bible,Word of God is a living entity fulfilling itself every day.