For those who are acquainted with and in the FALSE Prophetic coming out of Bethel, it would do you good to read this. Also for those who are not aware of what is going on within the church.
I found this pearl off my sister blogger’s site:
http://mkayla.wordpress.com/2011/07/16/an-escape-from-bethel-and-the-false-prophetic/
She had the follwoing to say about it:
Just received this as a comment. Please, if you are involved with Bethel, Crowder, any part of the charismatic/word of faith movement, the healing rooms or the prophetic, check these methods with the word of God. They may seem right, but they are occult at the core. I know this is so because I used to be a part of it all. Praise God for His saving grace!
I really wanted to share my story too as my church in the UK has become well & truly Bethelized, the transition into it has been a subtle & underhanded invasion, swapping of truth for error, what Im posting is about that journey of utter deception & how it gets in.
late 2009- Bill Johnson comes to my town in a big church wide event…. some time after that mtg (I didnt go to it because I really dont like big events) our senior pastor sat down with some leaders & discussed the audacity of bethel people visiting mind/body/spirit./psychic type fairs & setting up stalls that would offer to pray for healing & prophesy over people that would frequent such a place… 1st red flag no gospel preached/ & irresponsible – how on earth do people who are mostly drawn to occult practices discern & distinguish & make appropriate responses to that which is reportedly from a Holy God in that type of setting. ok I know god can reach anyone anywhere anyhow – but his “method” promotes spiritual confusion I believe in people who are dead to sin & lost to HIM.
May 2010: a group of leaders form our church & around the town visit Bethel… they return “odd’ different but not in a good way – immediately there is a lot of praying for individuals in the church by laying a hand on the forehead without the individual’s permission – these leaders just go up & “minister”- shouting & whooooaing in prayer times… also wafting hand movements during prayer times. my ” mentor’ who I love dearly & know very well now exhibits a subtle change in personality & has experienced a range of ill health ever since.
Red Flag 2: the language begins to change – we hear about impartation/intoxication of the spirit & relationship with father/ the work of Jesus on the cross becomes lessend as we focus on a culture of developing the prophetic/miracles & concentrate on being family
we see for the first time the practice of “fire tunnels”
rest of 2010…. we begin to immerse in Jesus culture music – begin preparing plans to launch our own healing rooms.. the “culture of honour” is widely talked about promoted from the senior leadership team.
Red flag 3: even though a culture of honour & doing everything from a place of loving relationship/family is promoted big time – various circumstances present themselves where honour should have been highly practiced – where in fact the opposite could be said
2011- senior leadership from Bethel visit the church. its obvious people form other places in the UK flock to hear the latest word.
healing rooms begins
Students from Bethel BSSM visit the town: we actively see for the first time prophetic art & the interpretation of it in our service time- soaking or what they would call “carpet time” is evident & other new phrases begin to pop into our language
* being whacked by God – get whacked – stay whacked – never go back
* get activated in the spirit/prophetic
* we want Jesus to get what he died for ( in relation to miracles)
* release & freedom become Big words
* Host the prescence
* More More & More
Red flag 3: senior leaders are imparting drunkeness to each other (& everyone else)- rolling around on floor – throwing love/bliss bombs at each other. & stating that they feel so drunk they are not sure how they could drive home. some of the behaviour they exhibit & allow would have been considered demonic & or worthy of discipline 20/25 years ago
present: *church decides to set up its own supernatural school of ministry
* other leaders visit to Bethel & other conferences around the uk & return using odd & confusing language – mostly pointing to the idea that Gods word was for then & the spirit or the flow (of the new wine) is for now
* we go totally overboard on the prophetic – with instruction form the senior leaders to develop, be ready & willing to give a prophetic word to literally anyone, anywhere, anytime.
Red flag 4: the occult creeps in: we now use Bethel’s offering readings ( look it up on their website) when we collect our tithes & offerings – this to me is nothing short of an incantation – a list of demands to get what WE want from God including “divine manifestations” & angelic visitations.
people are encouraged to place a cloth on their head during prayer at HR
& we are also offering people ” spiritual readings” this is where various prayers are written on cards & people are encouraged to randomly select one & have a leader pray over them for fulfillment in that area – just feels like home grown Tarot.
After all of this I have to say IM OUT – they will have my resignation by the end of the week !
I just felt I wanted to post all this so that others can see how this has happened chronologically like a drip drip drip effect of Blurrgh! which has sucked many in
Jul 21, 2011 @ 09:36:12
wow! this is word for word description of exactly what is happening in my church right now im stunned did you also have prophets and others warning about this deception and a leadership team so dazzled by this that they cant/wont see the reality of this evil?
Jul 21, 2011 @ 14:39:42
Cally, if these things are happening in your church, you may want to leave. Unless you are able to get leadership to listen to the truth about these people, you may find yourself in a place where great deceptions will continue.
Jul 21, 2011 @ 16:49:57
some members have spotted that ‘something’s not right’ and we have some very discerning people having dreams and visions warning of the danger coming from bethel, meetings have been held with senior leaders but we get told we’re’ in sin’ and ‘afraid of what God’s doing’ the entire congregation is encouraged to ‘jump in the river’ so yes i have considered leaving it’s not going to get better but there’s a huge pressure to stay if i did try to leave
Jul 21, 2011 @ 16:59:00
Cally, I’m so sorry you are going through that. Thank God you are not alone with your observations. Take heed of “dreams and visions.” Our plumbline is to be the Word of God. Not dreams and visions. Do not let man, pastors/teachers, etc. put a yoke on you. Yokes of fear and guilt upon leaving a church are from the enemy to keep us enslaved to false teaching. Know this: if you find you have to leave, know that there are already thousands of believers who have had their eyes opened and came out of false teachings. God will lead you, Cally.
Jul 21, 2011 @ 18:55:22
Thankyou you are right God has a path for me. i am just amazed at the similarities between what’s happening in our church and what i read above it seems chronologically identical, we’re up to spiritual readings and tarot cards (a rose by any other name) i challenged the senior pastor on that one but he wanted to go ahead anyway-yep i now have a draft written up of my resignation letter.
btw do you think the bethel folks have an agenda a specific plan to infiltrate churches it seems very methodical and calculated.
Jul 21, 2011 @ 19:33:09
Cally, I pray for you the very best as you leave and go forward. As far as Bethel purpsoely infilitrating every church, very good question. I would have to say whether that is the true aim or not, the spirit behind it is. My husband came in from church a few months back and sure enough, someone affilated with Bethel was guest speaker. It appears that a lot of churches/pastors want to be SOME BODY. I think they prove this when they have guests speakers in hopes of trying to make themselves well known, etc. Do not let the fear of man stop you from doing what God calls you to do. I also pray that if you leave, that many will follow your example and go in search of truth — The Word of God. The only thing that will never lead us astray. Please feel free to drop by and let me know how you are doing. Be blessed.
Jul 21, 2011 @ 19:35:46
Cally, if you need or want greater resources, please check out my sister mkayla’s blog in my friends blog roll. She has been where many of you have been in coming out from among the false teachers. Her blog is a great place to equip yourself in the Truth. Be blessed, sister.
Jul 24, 2011 @ 10:46:28
Thankyou so much for your kind words. our senior pastor now wants to meet with me he was all charming and concerned so please pray that i will stand firm and not waver.
Jul 24, 2011 @ 11:44:33
Cally, I certainly will pray for you. Please let us know how he responds.
Aug 22, 2011 @ 21:17:23
ok sorry its been ages.. well after numerous meetings (6 so far..and more to go..remember i told you there ‘s pressure to stay) i am slowly stepping out. i decided its better not to leave suddenly but rather to step out of each thing im involved with and then leave after that .
each leader ive spoken to is utterly convinced they’re right and i just need more time to ‘work it through’. its unbeliveable that even when presented with clear biblical evidence, im still wrong and they’re still right.
one even asked me to draw up a list of pros and cons and then go with that. ive been asked if i can ‘submit to the leadership’ which means ignore all my concerns and blindly follow them..well i like a good laugh. when i pointed out the lack of discernment among them-didnt go down very well
anyway thats the latest..ill get there… its frustrating but will go with way of peace . thankyou for you prayer support i feel much stronger
Sep 04, 2011 @ 21:31:57
Cally, please forgive me for not getting back with you sooner. I am making a suggestion and you take it before God, ok? Ask Him if HE wants you to just leave. Sounds like you have done the best you know and you were not listened to. Do not give to man what God means for Him and Him alone to have. That means do not over esteem men (even when they would have you to) when it is GOD you are to follow. Let nothing get in your way, Cally in finding the truth of what God wants for you.