Who Is Mark Chironna?

Mark Chironna’s roots are in the New Age and the Occult. He still practices these things with his teachings.

2 Timothy: 4:1-5 I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom: Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. But you be watchful in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.

Get rid of these two heretical beliefs so you can discern the times!

The church has been taught over the past couple decades through such teachers as Joyce Meyers and others, not to associate with so called doom sayers. Don’t be around them less they pull you down and somehow steal your faith. I find that ridiculous. The faith camp for years has taught faith, faith, faith — yet , they can not keep it if they hear one negative word? What kind of faith is that? The Word of God is full of negative words.

It’s no secret what I believe is coming upon the earth. I have made it known to many people. I have spent a lot of time checking things out and testing things. Yet, I have been mocked, ridiculed, ignored, viciously attacked by both christian and non-christian. 

I had foolishly believed for the past few decades that should endtime events approach in my lifetime, that all christians would be banning together praying and drawing near to God together, singing hymns and reading the Word for this time. How foolish of me. The falling away had to come first.

And it has with the likes of Rick Warren, Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyers and a host of others. Sure they can make you feel good for a while, but a little leaven…

Some of you right now are just seething and purposing in your hearts you will have nothing more to do with me cause I touch one of your idols. If these things you trust in can not keep you peacefully in the company of one who speaks of the Word of God and God alone, then you have your faith in wrong sources.  

It has been amazing to me the repsonses I have gotten about my latest postings, when all I have done I have done for love’s sake. God knows.

People asking me to take them off my mailings, which I have done respectfully removing their names from my address book never to send them another thing because that is what they want. Should danger come, their blood will not be on my hands.

When I started this blog over a year ago, it was about exposing what I saw unfolding before my eyes. The Falling Away. I began to find things that went against the Word of God that is being taught in the church. I began to speak out. Since then I have found that there are some who back their whole beliefs mainly in two scriptures:

You will know them by their fruits. And For these are not drunk, as you suppose.

So, if you are still with me, let us look at what Jesus had to say about knowing things by their fruits:

MATTHEW 17: 14-16 Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it. Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? -JESUS-

Now, what fruits was He talking about? I know what most of us have been taught; oh, he was talking about the fruit of the Spirit.

No. There are lots of religions that have that kind of fruit. Meaning you will find kindness, patience. love etc. in all people everywhere. A Wiccan can even have it! I know. When I was a witch in the Occult, I was peaceful, loved others deeply, patient, kind, etc.

Jesus is talking about the fruit of their teachings! But some still want to cling to the belief it means peace, joy, love just because someone can speak smoothly, give you a chuckle and have a nice toothy smile. 

I really don’t know what to do with peope like this anymore because by believing this LIE they have been taught, they do not discern. They only test their discernment skills on the the critics of their idols.

I do not speak that harshly. I speak it cause I have seen it over and over and some of you who come here have seen it to in your own lives, within your own church, with your preachers, among your peers. Some of you know exactly what I am talking about.

Then there is this one:  For these are not drunk, as you suppose.

This comes from the book of Acts as the disciples began to speak in the tongues of all nations to spread the Gospel.

Let us look at it:

Acts 2:13-15  Others mocking said, “They are full of new wine.” But Peter, standing up with the eleven, raised his voice and said to them, “Men of Judea and all who dwell in Jerusalem, let this be known to you, and heed my words. For these are not drunk, as you suppose, since it is only the third hour of the day.

Did you catch that? MOCKING? Why do you think they were mocking? They mocked because the devils in them did not want the truth of God to go out! So, Satan the accuser accused them through these people of being drunk so no one would listen!

Peter stood up to defend them. If he hadn’t of, the people would have ended up believing the mockers and walked away.

Contrary to what we have been taught, the disciples were NOT acting drunk! They were not stumbling all around, slurring their words! They were sober! And because I do not believe this heresy along with thousands of others who do not believe it, we are called religious! Satan has made this a religion. don’t believe me? Go to youtube and look at all the “drunken” young people taping their drunkeness for all to see. Oh what will they do should sudden destruction come? Oh what will they do? Do you think that drunkeness will keep you or them? It will not.

Just like any other drunk walking down the middle of a train track, not hearing the approaching train, will be scattered about the tracks! 

Does that make me angry? You better believe it does because it is a lie that has been twisted in God’s Word to allow heresy after hersesy to creep into the church! 

Don’t believe me? Then if you can watch this and continue to believe that lie, you are in for some greater deceptions to come. Do you think you can not be deceived? None of us are exempt from deception. None of us!

I want to know what is so appealing about that? In my eyes it is disgusting. Maybe some of you have never spent enough time around a real drunk or been one yourself to even know how disgusting it is. Maybe others have never been drunk a day in your life and this is just soo much fun to you. I don’t know which it is.

Some right this minute are thinking, “OOOOHHH, she just blasphemed the Holy Spirit!” YOU had better make sure it is not YOU blaspheming the Holy Spirit by allowing a man or a devil create an image of Jesus that is not true.  

I do not fear false teachers nor their teachings and I WILL question their teachings because by the grace of God I will not be deceived and led into a delusion that GOD HIMSELF will send to those who hate the truth.

We are told to be sober, vigilant because our adversary walks about seeking whom he may devour. Knowing that, why would anyone want to spend their time in drunkeness? Please don’t tell me it is the the joy of the Lord. It is a lie. The joy of the Lord is our strenght. You just saw in the above video those people had no more strength to fight off an enemy if he came in the door!

We better start rightfully dividing the Word of truth or we are in for some major deceptions. None of these “leaders” died on the cross for you or me. I will not fear them nor be intimidated to believe the things they teach. I owe my allegiance to only One and that is Jesus.

Bad Roots: John Alexander Dowie

Video of some more bad roots to the charismatic movement of today. Why oh why are some of you so afraid to test things and just call something wrong? If you can not see the blatant mocking and blasphemy there is something seriously wrong with your doctrine. Oh, ooops I used that bad word–doctrine. Well, guess what–you better start getting it straight because if you do not you will believe every lie and delusion that starts coming at us.

godsplumbline gives us this:

Seems like a lot of it started with a man named John Alexander Dowie. He claimed to be the forerunner of Christs’ second coming. He is called the Father of Healing Revival.  He was noted for financial irresponsiblitity and love of personal luxury.

John Crowder, in the video, at the gravesite ot Dowie,  lies about the accomplishments of this apostate.  Saying that the walls were covered with braces and many people came out of their wheelchairs. Same thing we hear today by those within the false revival movements.

Dowie viewed druggists and doctors as instruments of the devil. Many people died after coming to his meetings by not following through with medical attention.

“We just come to the grave today to release to you an impartation of healing… annointing so we just rip it right out of the ground suck it off his dead bones in Jesus’ name (camera man laughs) and loose it  to you a healing revival glory …”

This is necromancy. I find it very odd that the camera man laughs at the timing of “Jesus’ name.” This is blatant mockery.

And when Saul enquired of the Lord, The Lord answered him not. Neither by dreams, nor by Urim, nor by prophets. – Isaiah 28:6 -

So when the Lord refused to answer Saul, what did Saul do? He sought out a witch to speak to him. It was sin then and it is still sin to seek guidance from witchcraft or the dead.

John Crowder goes on, “Dead bones still have the glory of God resting on them.”

This is the same belief Catholics hold with their artifacts. It is not only trusting in the dead, it is a type of worshipping the dead.

“We honor the presence of God that was on John Alexander Dowie…and right now Father, we just release it, we pull on it, thank you Father for that glory…”

More of worshipping the dead. It is only the Lamb of God that is to receive all honor and glory. These heretics want to give it to the dead in hopes of getting something from the dead.  

In 1906 Dowies’ followers revolted and ousted him from leadership. When his own daughter was severly burned by knocking over an alcohol lamp, he refused her medical treatment and she died in that condition. 

So just like the movement of today, there is no mercy, no compassion for those who do not get their healing or who stay sick. Instead they are told they need to have more faith, or they are in rebellion against the great ones’ teachings.

In 1901 Dowie came out and said he was Elijah, the Restorer. Funny thing about that. William Branham said the same thing. Both men had the same lying spirit!

“When the glory of God is release, it will be controversial. God is seperating the sheep from the goats. He’s stripping away the cowards from the movement…if you want the glory you’ve got to… bite into it like a bulldog.”

In other words, anyone who refuses to get their annointing from a dead body, is a coward. This tactic is one of manipulation and bullying. We are to bite into this movement like a bull dog? No, rather we are to stand for the truth like a bulldog!  

Dowie dressed in priestly robes modeled after those in Leviticus.

It is hard to describe what happens at 5:25 as he says, “Right now in Jesus name.” His tongue can not speak and it is a complete mockery, once again, at the mention of Jesus name. This alone should be enough to make anyone flee from this heretic.

“We just rip right off his deaaaad bones and put it right on you… Ohhh, dead bones, dead bones, He’s the god of the living, not the god of the deaaaad.”

Then why are you at a grave site trying to get anything off the dead?

“John Alexander Dowie is alive!” 

This actually is taking the place of Jesus being the One who is alive. Only Jesus has His presence here on this earth. John Dowie is dead and his body remains in the grave. 

John Alexander Dowie suffered from hallucintions during his last illness. He of a stroke on March 9, 1907.

Let the dead bury their dead. – Matthew 8:22 -

Bad Roots: William Branham

Video of exposing William Branham for the many errors he taught. Sadly, there are many within the modern day church who applaud him. His teachings have infested and infected the church.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lignNfeTQuA

Bad Roots: AZUSA STREET-Birth of a Lie

The Azusa Street Revival, at the turn of the century, has been proclaimed the mother of revival here in America. Below is an article on the Azusa Street Revival at the turn of the century. I’m giving you some new things to think about. My aim is for us to test things together. I suggest that you too begin doing searches on your own. Together may we find the leaven that has ruined the whole loaf. For myself, I have come to the place where no past teachings or beliefs are sacred ground anymore. I want to rid myself of any and all false beliefs I have ever believed in.

In short… I WANT THE TRUTH!   

By: K. B. Napier

In the past I have said that not all charismatics are the same, but that they all share the same guilt for their errors. Charismatics are the spawn of Pentecostalism. It is therefore prudent to see whether or not the child of Pentecostalism is just a wild and unprecedented mistake – or if it is a genealogical reproduction of its parent. If it is a mistake, then Pentecostalism might be exonerated. But, what if charismaticism is a true child, an image of its parent? If this is so, then we have no option but to cast Pentecostalism into the same pit that charismaticism belongs to.

 

These are very hard words if we personally know Pentecostalists – especially if they are of the ‘old school’. I know some, and they are nice folk. But this is where we must shed the emotional ties that can cause us to accept and promote error. Our aim must be to exalt and promote God’s word and holiness, not our own version of what is acceptable. Emotion and friendships have no part in the process*. There is only one way to do this and, that is, to measure everything by scripture. We will now look briefly at the beginnings of Pentecostalism as a movement, as it manifested itself at Azusa Street church. (* Of course, friendships and emotion are important. What I am saying is that they cannot be allowed to alter the course of Truth, nor should they be allowed to cause us to accommodate lies. If necessary, we must be prepared to put aside friendships and our own emotional responses, if Truth demands it. That is a test of faithfulness).

 

Pentecostalist-type manifestations (Note: not ‘Pentecostal’ as in Acts 2) and beliefs existed long before the ‘latter rain’ events at Azusa Street, but it was at Azusa Street that Pentecostalism took proper shape and form. The inception of any movement is important. Was it a holy and Godly event, or not? This paper will show, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the birth of Pentecostalism was defective. A monster was born.

 

As a child it displayed an immaturity of outlook. As a youth it desired adventure and started to flex its muscles (early 1960’s when charismaticism began). Then, in the 1990’s, the true nature of the monster was revealed as it rampaged the world and destroyed countless churches and Christian lives. It called itself the ‘Toronto Blessing’ and personified the Biblical description of Satan as an ‘angel of light’ and his activities as ‘works of darkness’.

 

Old-style Pentecostalists might throw up their arms in horror at this lineage, claiming that they have nothing to do with the evil ‘Toronto’ movement. But they are wrong and deluded. They are the parents of the charismatic movement that produced the Toronto Blessing, even if they attempt to distance themselves. They may not have taken part in the same terrible defilements, but the fact that they call themselves ‘Pentecostalists’ is sufficient indictment. They are the same family and are bred from the same stock! The only difference is in degree.

 

We will, then, look at the Azusa Street phenomenon because it created the evil life-form that insidiously grew and erupted into the Toronto Blessing. The conclusion is very simple – every man and woman who calls him or herself ‘Pentecostalist’ MUST, as a matter of urgency, repent and deny their Pentecostalist theology and affiliations. They must cast aside their erroneous beliefs and activities (which are evil in His sight), that they might receive the true favour of Almighty God.

 

These are strong words for evil days, my friends. There is no time for a soft approach…an approach that tolerated and advanced the cause of charismatic heresy in the latter part of the twentieth century. If you are a Pentecostalist, take heed. You are being held accountable, by the evidence of scripture. That is, by the Lord. In this Article my own feelings of friendship for Pentecostalists known to me are irrelevant. What matters is that we all adhere to the only measure of Truth we have – God’s word.

 

In His book ‘The Toronto Blessing and Slaying in the Spirit’, Nader Mikhaiel points out that Pentecostalists never write about counterfeit miracles. (Although Bill Randles, of the USA, tackles the topic amongst others in his own work, but that is very recent). The reason is very simple – if they once acknowledge that some of their activities are evil, then they risk having them all branded with the same epithet. The danger to the structure and existence of Pentecostalism would be very real. It would collapse, because it is built on a foundation of sand. This is probably why Pentecostalists will not acknowledge the occult beginnings of their own movement…..if, that is, they know their own history anyway.

 

Some Pentecostalists distance themselves from charismatic ‘excess’ as found in the Toronto Blessing. Some even distance themselves from various leaders such as John Arnott (Toronto) and/or John Wimber (Vineyard). Do not be fooled by this! All they are doing is shifting the furniture around on the deck of the Titanic! They are still Pentecostalists and still believe the same things as they always did, and still practice the same errors. They are like the kettle calling the pot ‘black’….but, sadly, most of them are unaware of this failure and would not dream of being unfaithful.

 

In general they do not do or say what their more adventurous charismatic cousins do or say. But they do or say other things, which, though less dramatic, are of the same stock of heresy. By saying what many reformed folk want to hear (a denunciation of Toronto-style manifestations etc), they appear to be different from charismatics. This, friends, is a big mistake. As we have already said – they are only different by degree, not by type. That is, their virus is exactly the same; it just manifests itself in a modulated form. In this way, even if Satan is detected in charismaticism, he can still maintain his presence through old-style Pentecostalism without fear of being recognized by most Christians.

 

He has succeeded admirably and we must admit to his cleverness. Even so, he has been recognized in Pentecostalism! Not just by me, but by a number of other watchmen, who also warn the Church of the charismatic heresy. Those who wish to be truly faithful should now take heed, for their souls’ sake.

 

There is a very good reason for old-style Pentecostalists to abandon their beliefs and to repent. Some ministries supported by non-charismatics are headed by Pentecostalists. Yes, they denounced the Toronto Blessing. This led many to believe they must be ‘sound’. But this cannot be so. I say this without animosity toward these men or their ministries. A man who remains – and likes to call himself – ‘Pentecostalist’, but who has publicly castigated the Toronto Blessing is still, nevertheless, of the same root. That root is described in these pages. You will see that a man who denounces the Toronto movement must also denounce his own past, which is of the same kind. Such a man’s ministry MUST, by definition, be tainted by his Pentecostalist beliefs and background. At some stage he must revert to those beliefs. Those who follow such men and who give moral or monetary support, must be aware of this probability, to avoid disappointment. A man who does not leave behind his Pentecostalism is a ‘Toronto-ist in waiting’. (Explanatory illustration: If a man in the Nazi Party denounced Hitler, would you be able to trust him if he remained in the Party?).

 

THE REAL THING – NOT COUNTERFEITS

One other mistake needs to be acknowledged. That is, the fashion of calling recent charismatic activities ‘excesses’ and the gifts and manifestations ‘counterfeits’. Neither of these terms apply. An ‘excess’ suggests that the core of something is acceptable, but that there is simply an abundance of it. That is, the substance is basically good, but what spills over is somehow just a bit ‘over the top’. Toronto-style activities and its allied beliefs are not ‘excesses’ at all, but are a totally different breed. They have no basis in scripture, so they are not just slightly twisted forms of something good – they are without scriptural roots and are evil.

 

As for their gifts and manifestations (and fruit) being counterfeits…well, this word is used by well-meaning reformed Christians who have only a superficial understanding of what they have observed, usually third-hand. The axiom is, that where there is something real, there will be a counterfeit by Satan. The axiom is wrong in this case! In charismaticism, Satan is not trying to mimic what is real at all – he has produced his own brand of religious experience, without reference to what God does. Thus, the Toronto Blessing and charismaticism itself are not ‘counterfeits’ – they are the real article. What are counterfeits are the explanations and theology given by charismatics in defense of what they say and do. The Alpha course follows in this ‘new’ tradition, by basing its theology on scripture and then by twisting it to accommodate charismatic heresy.

 

The manifestations themselves, which are the major cornerstone of charismaticism, are Satanic and not counterfeit, for they do not even attempt to copy what God does. There is nothing like them in scripture, so they have no link with previous or present godly realities. That makes them unique and not copies. It is important that we describe the charismatic phenomenon carefully and properly, because the outcome has far-reaching effects. Once we attribute ‘excesses’ or ‘counterfeits’ to Pentecostalism we legitimize it and bring it into the Christian fold.

 

Let me give just one example of charismatic activity that is not counterfeit – though it is often referred to as such…tongues. Commonly today, Pentecostalists claim their own ‘tongues’ to be of God whilst they call charismatic tongues ‘counterfeit’. Reformed Christians follow this anecdotal image. The problem is, both charismatic and Pentecostalist ‘tongues’ are false! In scripture a ‘tongue’ is a normal foreign language, not a heavenly language that no-one can possibly understand. So, that makes all the ‘tongues’ used by both camps unique manifestations of Satan (or, sometimes, of one’s own sinful psychological output – though this also comes from an evil source). They are not ‘counterfeits’ because they do not mimic the real thing. One is a foreign language and the other is a badly cobbled-together form of gobbledegook. This is a central truth to understand, because Pentecostalism mainly hinges on tongues.

 

Judge the facts for yourselves as we now look at the Azusa Street antics…

 

Interestingly, the Dictionary of Pentecostal and Charismatic Movements itself states that slaying in the spirit is not Biblical. It says that it can be caused by peer pressure, autosuggestion, or self-desire to have ‘it’. But it does not include the possibility of ‘it’ being all of Satan, or even partly of Satan. Yet, this phenomenon is unbiblical! Both tongues and slaying in the spirit are unbiblical. They were the basis of the Azusa Street activities which gave birth to Pentecostalism.

 

David du Plessis, a much revered figure in Pentecostalism, admitted that slaying in the spirit should be avoided because it brought ‘nothing but trouble’ (quoted by Cardinal Suenens). God’s phenomenon do not bring this kind of trouble. Satan’s activities do.

A blanket of silence is thrown over slaying and tongues, because both phenomena were linked together at Azusa Street. Doubt one and you must doubt both. So, the best strategy is to keep quiet. The fact is very stark – if slaying and charismatic tongues (the very foundation of Pentecostalism) are both unbiblical, then they are of Satan. So, if both these phenomena are admitted to be demonic, the whole denomination/movement is a demonic device. No Pentecostalist or charismatic will ever admit to such a fact. However, Cardinal Suenens, a charismatic, says that slaying is the work of an ‘alien force’! What ‘alien force’ can there be for Christians, except a Satanic one? Today Pentecostalists and charismatics (kissing cousins) have fudged the issue with bamboozling words and arguments.

 

WIMBER – A SON OF AZUSA STREET

Note that the start of John Wimber’s (not God’s) movement – the TB, Vineyard, etc. – contains exactly the same ingredients as those found at Azusa Street. Lies have been told about Wimber’s charismatic start, and lies are weaved into every charismatic wave and activity. The lies are spoken by charismatics themselves in order to boost their own movement, by twisting or lying about what really happened. So beware when listening to the glowing reports of charismatics!

 

AZUSA STREET

Azusa Street is in Los Angeles, California, USA. The church there experienced its phenomena in the first decade of this century (20^th). However, the same phenomena had occurred many times before, in the previous century, though not in such an organized way. The man who first organized Pentecostalist ideas into a theology was Charles Parham. He has the distinction of being the ‘father’ of modern Pentecostalism/charismaticism. His contemporary, W. J. Seymour, helped to spread the new theology and manifestations. (Dictionary of Pentecostal and Charismatic Movements, Zondervan Publishing House, 1988, and ‘The Holiness Pentecostal Movement in the United States’ by William Eerds, Grand Rapids, 1971).

 

The Azusa Street church held its historic meetings three times a day, seven days a week, and sometimes all night as well, for three years. (Note how the time scale and number of meetings coincides with that of the ‘official’ period of the Toronto Blessing?). Just as with the Toronto Blessing people flocked from around the world to experience ‘Pentecostalism’. And what was experienced? (the first woman mentioned) this time singing a far-away tune that sounded very unnatural and repulsive…When the altar call was made, a woman walked up to the front and kissed a man…kissing between the sexes is a common occurrence in the tongue meetings.” (An eyewitness account in ‘Demons and Tongues’ by Alma White; Pillar of Fire Publishers, 1949). Classic early Pentecostalism – and classic 1990’s charismaticism. Both the same!

 

“…a woman…stood shaking from head to foot…a man in front of her slid down out of his chair and became unconscious…the man…was…under high nerve pressure…He arose, staggered to them and began to shake his hand in front of their faces and wave his arms over their heads and moan…Then he put his hands on the heads of the women and began to shake their hair. Some of them lost control of themselves and went under an hypnotic spell. He rubbed a man’s jaw until the victim tumbled over on the floor and lay for half an hour, then suddenly began to jabber. Those who had received their ‘Pentecost’ cried out, ‘He has the baptism, he has the baptism!’.

 

A young coloured woman, doing her best to get the gibberish, went through all kinds of contortions in her effort to get her tongue to work.

 

…a coloured woman had her arms around a white man’s neck, praying for him. A man of maturer years leaped up out of his chair and began to stutter. He did not utter a distinct syllable…’tut-tut-tut-tut-tut-tut’. This was evidence that he had his ‘baptism’.

 

Here is another eye-witness account: “(Shumway – an author)…attended a ‘Pentecostal’ meeting where pandemonium was loose (Ed. Look up the meaning of ‘pandemonium’. This is what Shumway was referring to). Men and women…were talking excitedly ‘in tongues’. A man (holding on to a post) seemed to be in possession of an old-fashioned Peter Cartwright camp-meeting (charismatic-style antics in the previous century – see BTM article) case of the jerks. He was muttering and mumbling most of the time, but would (also) shriek. About sixty or seventy of the three hundred present were ‘possessed of the spirit’ (Ed. I refuse to prefix the word ‘spirit’ with a capital ‘S’. It is not the Holy Spirit) and each was (trying to be louder than the others). (The same man then added) ‘God’s got a crowd ‘o folks here that’s willin’ to let him make fools of ‘em if he wants to.’ ”

 

One of the three men…leading the meeting…was praying…kneeling upon an open Bible…He was almost beside himself with excitement, His arms waved and his body swayed. I thought…that he might be heard two blocks away. In this meeting there was barking like dogs, hooting like owls, and the like…After adjourning, one of the leaders remarked in my hearing ‘God had a wonderful hold on this meeting for a little while, didn’t He?’.

 

Do you not find all this frightening? This could be a description of a modern Toronto-style meeting! Note the leader kneeling on God’s word? The ‘pandemonium’? The sexual activity? The same manifestations? The suggestion that God had control of only a small part of the meeting (thus Satan had the rest!)? The making fools of people? It is also worth noting that early Pentecostalist congregations were commonly ordered out of town by the police because of the racket they made, and because of their general misconduct. (‘A Critical History of Glossalalia’ by C W Shumway. PhD Dissertation, Boston University, 1919). This is what today’s Pentecostalists revere and this is their true birthright.

 

Yet another eyewitness said: “…I found men and women lying on the floor in all shapes…(they were) jabbering all at one time in what they called unknown tongues. While I was praying, one of the workers took hold of me and said, ‘Holy Ghost, we command Thee to go into this soul’. The workers were jabbering and shaking their hands over me, and a demonic power (as I now know) took possession of me, and I fell among the people on the floor and knew nothing for ten hours. When I came to my senses I was weak and my jaws were so tired they ached. I believed then that this power was of God. They said I was wonderfully blessed, and the leader sent me from one place to another so that I could jabber in tongues.” (‘Demons and Tongues’. See above reference). Note – they commanded the Holy Spirit! Just like today.

 

He knew nothing of what he had done for ten hours! The same evil as we see today in charismatic meetings. If you are a Pentecostalist, can you not see it is evil? That your roots are in Satan and not in God? That those you revere were themselves controlled by demons? If not, read on…

 

SLAYING PLUS TONGUES EQUALS REVIVAL?

When W. J. Seymour preached at Azusa Street, the meetings were called a ‘revival’. Why? Because so-called slaying in the spirit and tongues were combined! To these early Pentecostalists they were the ‘proof’ that God was with them in a powerful way. The hard fact is, all the manifestations were those found in demonic hypnosis (see BTM Article on the subject).

 

One who took part in these early years, Bartleman, said: “At Eighth and Maple Streets such a divine ‘weight of glory’ was upon us we could only lie on our faces. For a long time we could hardly remain seated even…” (‘Another Wave Rolls In’, by Bartleman. Voice Publications. 1962). And: “It was also reported that the ‘jerks’ and ‘treeing the devil’ (that is, crawling on all fours and barking up a tree like a dog) were in evidence in the (Azusa) mission.”

 

Bartleman, in favour of the movement and not wanting to write anything negative, refers to a Baptist pastor who ran around hugging everyone he could get hold of. This was called ‘divine love’. Remember, all this – and the kissing – all took place at a time in history when such behavior would have been shocking. Yet it was accepted as of God, without question.

 

One missionary leader spoke with horror about what happened at Azusa Street, declaring that “it would be impossible to publish the things that have occurred there. The familiarity between sexes in the public meetings has been shocking, to say the least. Hell has reaped an awful harvest and infidelity has become more strongly rooted…than ever before.” (‘Demons and Tongues’). All along in these descriptions we are reading carbon-copies of Toronto and other charismatic antics. Sexual impropriety is rife, as is marital breakdown and other problems.

 

Significantly, Seymour, a leader of the movement, “ultimately repudiated the initial evidence teaching (speaking in tongues) as providing an open door for witches and spiritualists and free lovism.” (‘Dictionary of P & C Movements’). Parham, the ‘father’ of Pentecostalism, had this to say about Azusa: “Men and women, whites and blacks, knelt together or fell across one another; frequently, a white woman, perhaps of wealth and culture, could be seen thrown back in the arms of a big ‘buck nigger’, and held tightly thus as she shivered and shook in freak imitation of Pentecost. Horrible awful shame!” Yes, that was the leader of the movement talking! (‘Fields White Unto Harvest’, by James Goff Jnr. University of Arkansas Press, 1988). In those days these were scenes of degradation and immorality. Before he left Azusa Street, Parham said “God is sick at His stomach” because of the ‘animalism’ going on there. (Shumway). All of these things and more go on at Wimber and other charismatic meetings. Now we come to worse facts…

 

WITCHES AND MEDIUMS

The occurrences at Azusa Street soon attracted the attention of occultists far and wide. They did so not because God was in the movement, but because He was NOT! (‘The Holiness Pentecostal Movement in the United States’ by Vinson Synan. Grand Rapids. 1971). I would ask Pentecostalists to read that statement again. Does it not tell you something about the true nature of your denomination?

 

“…spiritualists and mediums from the numerous occult societies of Los Angeles began to attend and to contribute their séances and trances to the services.”

 

Seymour was terrified by these activities, which took place in the middle of his church’s services. He wrote frantically to Parham, begging him to come to Los Angeles to sort things out. “W. J. Seymour was still writing urgent letters appealing for help, as spiritualistic manifestations, hypnotic forces and fleshly contortions as known in the coloured Camp meetings in the south, had broken loose in the meetings.” He wanted to know which parts were real and which were false. It did not enter his mind that it was ALL false! The manifestations he refers to are exactly those that were shown in Rodney Howard Browne, Copeland, Benny Hinn and other charismatic meetings, during and since the Toronto Blessing. They currently are alive in Pensacola.

 

As Nader Mikhaiel correctly observes: “How could an outpouring of the Spirit of God attract the witches, the mediums and the spiritualists? Fragrance does not attract flies – a decomposing carcass does. Mediums and spiritualists are attracted to the spirit that is at work in them, that is, the Devil.” How else could these evil people participate in what was supposed to be a ‘revival’ meeting? The only answer is that the events at Azusa Street were not of God at all, but were of Satan. That has a serious ramification – that Pentecostalism is based not on the work of God, but on the work of Satan. As we have said many times before, this has nothing to do with how ‘nice’ a person is, or how ‘holy’ he claims to be, or how much he says he ‘loves Jesus’, etc. What matters is how he obeys the Lord’s commands as found in scripture. Azusa Street did not obey the Lord, but propagated perversions of truth. What followed, therefore, was also a perversion – which continues to this very day.

 

Again to quote Mikhaiel: “Did the outpouring of the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost attract mediums and spiritualists, to participate with the disciples?” No, of course they did not! Something I have discovered in my own work is that mediums and spiritualists are powerless in the presence of God. I have noted how spiritualists have been dumb when I have been near, and I have watched a man overtaken by a demon crawl into a corner, crying out that I leave ‘him’ alone because I ‘knew God’. He was forced to crawl and snivel, just as demons cried out to Jesus not to harm them. This happened not because of my own strength or holiness, but because of the Master I represented! I had no power of my own, yet even the derived, delegated authority of a mortal, sinful Christian was enough to send demons scurrying away. Why did they not scatter at Azusa Street? I think you can already guess the answer.

 

The power of Satan was so strong that the “supernatural atmosphere of Azusa Street was felt within several blocks…”! If it had been the power of God, mediums and spiritualists would not have been able to enter that hallowed area. Instead, they flocked there and joined in the revelry, because they recognized that the same spirit as they had was present in Azusa Street.

 

Bartleman tells us that the folk at the church were petrified by the occultists: “…spiritualists, hypnotists…all the religious soreheads and crooks and cranks came…We had the most to fear from these…This condition cast a fear over many which was hard to overcome. It hindered the spirit so much. Many were afraid to seek God for fear the devil might get them.” A revival? Never! This is the kind of fear generated by the might of Satan, not by God. God cannot be hindered by Satan.

 

As Mikhaiel points out – Seymour was a false apostle. But no more so than all others who follow in his footsteps. If God works through a Pentecostalist it can only be by special divine intervention, over and above what He normally does. Such an intervention must be in spite of a man being Pentecostalist. Any such grace is certainly not a reason to remain a Pentecostalist.

 

PARHAM – UNABLE TO ACT

Parham could not shift this awful pestilence. He was ‘repelled’ by what he witnessed and when he attempted to rectify the situation, Seymour and his followers split from him. They did not like it. This is exactly how Toronto Blessing leaders reacted to rebuke and help from faithful Christians. Parham saw hypnotists (occultists) practicing hypnotism at the altar. Later, he confessed that it was all of Satan, for he saw “hypnotic influences, familiar spirit influences, spiritualistic influences, mesmeric influences and all kinds of spells and spasms, falling in trances etc….” He refuted them as being of God, as his own wife testified. (‘The Life of Charles F Parham’ by Sarah Parham. Garland Publishing. 1985).

 

It transpired that Parham was “not wanted” at Azusa Street. Why not? Because one of the elders was himself a hypnotist, who passed on the power to speak in tongues to others! Or as Parham put it: “chattering, jabbering, speaking in no language at all”. (Parham).

Parham tried to counter the evil at Azusa Street by holding parallel meetings elsewhere, to deliver people from possession by demons. He said: “between two and three hundred who had been possessed of awful fits and spasms and controls in the Azusa Street work were delivered, and received the real Pentecost teachings and many spake with other tongues.” Superficially this all sounds great – Parham successfully stole away Satan’s prizes!

 

But we must look far deeper than that. Satan is no fool. He was as much at work in Parham’s meetings as he was in Azusa Street. But in a different way. He merely shifted his locus of attention, from one church to another. With much panache, he grandly allowed Parham to ‘exorcise’ his demons, and then placed them back again, making Parham’s converts speak in tongues that were just as false as the ones they previously had! Satan has a grim sense of humor, friends. If he can gain something by pretending to be cast out by false prophets, then he will gladly join in the fun. So, what appears to be an exorcism is actually a worsening of the situation. As scripture tells us, if a man is not cleansed of sin after being exorcised of demons, then even more demons will enter him, causing even greater havoc in his life…a havoc far worse than he had experienced previously. Remember this when you next contemplate the supposed exorcisms in charismatic and Pentecostalist meetings. Satan is not being cast out – he is just reinforcing his position by assuming another guise.

 

SPREAD OF INFECTION

Just as happened with the Toronto Blessing, so the Azusa Street phenomenon spread, and the same manifestations occurred. The founder of the Foursquare Gospel church, Aimee Semple McPherson, wrote of exactly the same manifestations as are found in Pensacola and in charismatic churches worldwide today. That is because the same Satanic influence and falsity has been passed on, decade by decade.

 

This woman received the ‘spirit’ and the ‘gifts’ in the same way as charismatics do today. Such is obviously not of God. For example, “it was as though He would tear my body to pieces…He verily split my throat…(someone said to her) ‘the Lord is able to repair any damage He does to the old temple. After being tossed about violently for quite awhile until I was panting for breath and wet with perspiration, I…poured forth praise to God in tongues…” (‘This Is That’, by Aimee McPherson. Echo Park Evangelistic Association. 1923). Of God? Never! She, too, called the ‘revival’ the ‘latter rain’ of God. When this ‘rain’ spread to Britain, rooms were ‘rocked’ at prayer meetings. That is the work of demons, not of God.

 

This is just a smattering of information concerning Azusa Street and the formation of Pentecostalism. If a reader cannot see the demonic behind it all, then there is very little that further study would bring. Pentecostalists should consider this – if what they have is truly of God, why is it the same as is being experienced by charismatics, and which has been experienced continuously since Azusa Street, where mediums and spiritualists recognized the ‘spirit’ to be their own Satanic spirit? The experiences are not just similar – they are exactly the same.

 

May God help us all to ‘read between the lines’ of what is happening today.

 

Discernment is essential if we are to remain faithful to the Lord and stand against error.

This Article has given the historical facts concerning the beginning of Pentecostalism. Now that you know the truth, what are you going to do about it? If you have Pentecostal friends, will you show them their error? Or will you stand by and allow them to think they are okay? Will you let them continue thinking that their various Pentecostal ideas are of God? Will you urge them to repent and leave what is a heinous deception of the Devil dressed in acceptable guise?

 

The days are short. There is no time for nice chit-chat. Pentecostalism (charismaticism) is growing rapidly. Will we now stand against it and raise the banner of Jesus Christ? Or will we all stand by and allow charismatics to raise their own false standard, proclaiming themselves to be God’s people on this earth? You have the choice – to stand firm or to mix with error. Telling friends they are in gross error is a very hard thing to do. This is acknowledged. But what is being tested is not friendship – it is loyalty and faithfulness to the Lord, His word and Truth. It is always sad when those we thought were friends shun us because of a firm stand for the Lord. That is the way it has always been.

Redeemedhippie: The author has made it clear he has no use for charismaticism. That is understandable. I do not competely endorse his views. He is very right in saying, “The days are short. There is no time for nice chit-chat. Pentecostalism (charismaticism) is growing rapidly.” Very right. Not that Pentecostalism in and of itself is wrong, but the hereies that have crept in and corrupted the church have grown rapidly the past few decades. The heresy of creating a Jesus in their image.

He continues, “Will we now stand against it and raise the banner of Jesus Christ? Or will we all stand by and allow charismatics to raise their own false standard, proclaiming themselves to be God’s people on this earth?” He is right about the false standard that has been raised. It is time we stood up and challenged those who have misrepresented the truth with their abominations. Too bad we did not do it years ago.

“You have the choice – to stand firm or to mix with error. Telling friends they are in gross error is a very hard thing to do. This is acknowledged. But what is being tested is not friendship – it is loyalty and faithfulness to the Lord, His word and Truth. It is always sad when those we thought were friends shun us because of a firm stand for the Lord. That is the way it has always been.”

How many times, have we charasmatic shunned those who did not agree with us? I know I have been guilty of it over the years. I did what I was taught. Accused those “less spiritual” than I of not being “as spiritual” because they did not speak in tongues or hoop and holler. Shame on me!  The time has come for loyalty to Jesus above that of men.

(Acknowledgements for quotes are made to: ‘The Toronto Blessing and Slaying in the Spirit – the telling wonder’ by Nader Mikhaiel….an exceptional book written by a man of discernment)

Article gotten from here: http://www.scionofzion.com/azusa_street.htm

Heresy within Charismania: Tonques

Please see below video before writing me off.

I realize I may touch someones’ little idol when I expose this mockery. After all, so many of us have been taught it is ok to act the fool while uttering gibberish, falling out of your chair and slithering and jerking on the floor. My aim is not to discredit all tongues. I simply do not know. I do know this much; I know that the church has taught that one must have the gift of tongues to be filled with the Holy Spirit. I do not believe this. If you received the gift of tongues and are now able to actually speak russian, chinese etc. then you need to be in those nations preaching the gospel. But I have yet to see this. Instead I see the following in the church. Complete blasphemy nad mockery of the gift of tongues. 

This is the very same spirit at work when the disciples were accused of being drunk. Whereas the disciples said no to the lie, here, the church actually has embraced the lie. The disciples were accused of being drunk to discredit their witness. Did you hear that? They were accused by Satan through the mouths of the ones who wanted to discredit them. They were not drunk. The enemy was trying to make the people think they were drunk so the people would not listen to them. Do you see that?

The video starts out with Kenneth Hagin appearing like an old drunken slob. If that offends anyone, you need to ask yourself why? I know why it offends me.  A drunken old man standing over me, suppossedly of God or not, is one that I find disgusting. The Jesus I serve would NEVER stand over me is such a manner.

We are called to be sober.

Hagin says, “They heard them speak in tongues but what did they see for them to think they were drunk? They must have thought they were drunk. They were acting like drunks.” Then Hagin begins a drunken mocking laughter.

I say again, they were not drunk. The enemy was trying to make the people think they were drunk so the people would not listen to them. Do you understand that?

At one minute into the video a very well-to-do looking couple begin to slither out of their chairs. The complete look of stupidity upon their faces is demonic. You tell me how a God who has given us a sound mind could look so utterly stupid. You can’t tell me.

At 1:20 “Dad” Hagin has to be escorted by a few men as he is just too drunk to stand on his own. I find this so repulsive. And if you believe in a Holy God, you should too. The expression on his face is not that of the Holy Spirit but that of another.

At 2:00 into it, we are introduced to Kenneth Copeland. He too is laughing while Hagin can barely stand up being held up by three men. Now church, I once was a drunkard when in the world. And I have had my share of being around a few drunks in my lifetime. I found it distasteful then, I find this even more distasteful. So you tell me, you who want to cling to this idol of yours, why a Holy God would expect me to embrace this? I abhor it. The Spirit in me tells me it is wrong.

“This is the first time we’ve had a full minifestation of that annointing.”

This is NOT the annointing of God.

“You got that! You got that!” He throws the annointing and the crowd roars backward. Complete bedlam breaks out.

At 3:16, a few men appeared to be locked together. Sorry, church, this is not the love of Christ at work here.  In the meantime there is a constant cooing sound. It is coming from the woman to the right of Hagin.

Kenneth Copeland, (who I believe has more than one demon in him) is on the floor feeding this frenzy with his antics.

At about 4:40, the woman on Hagins’ right begins to make even dumber and louder noises.

At 5:28 the camera pans over to Copeland. Notice the expression of his face. Did he get sober all at once? It is like he is all of a sudden tired of the theatrics himself.  Bored, no longer amused or having fun. Maybe he just wants to go home now, now that the fun is over.

BAD ROOTS: A.A. Allen casting out a demon

This is laughable. I wonder how many people fell for this. This isn’t no demon. This is just real bad acting for everyone involoved! I wonder who this woman was and how much they paid her? I wonder where they got her? If anyone has a suggestion, I am open.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5bIAk2F4ris&feature=related

Bad Roots; A.A. Allen (part 2)

“This isn’t dramatization, I feel this.” The fact that he felt anything means nothing.

“You can see she’s been helpless. But God’s doing something. He’s done something. Come on, walk.”

She get up and walks.

All the while, people are screaming with excitement.

“Bring me that next woman in that wheelchair with that foul cancer. Cancer in both lungs and both breasts. Is this your night?”

“This is my night.” For someone who has cancer in both lungs she sounded pretty strong to me. She jumps up and runs. The lie is pretty obvious.

I believe this man was a fake and I believe a lot of minstries of today have patterned themselves after him. Reminds me too much of Jim Jones for me to believe this man was of God. Just another snake oil salesman. I wonder how and where he got his plants?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8uGpQiN7rvc&feature=related

BAD ROOTS: A.A. Allen; supernatural oil

A.A. Allen a false teacher from the 40s and 50s claims he had oil on his hands. He bears witness of HIMSELF when he uses the Word of God “I can’t say anything. All I know is what God has said. Because thou hast loved righteousness and hated iniquity I’ve anointed thee with oil, even the oil of joy…friends, I can’t understand this. This is a mystery. All of a sudden my hands just began to burn.” And the crowd just cheers. ”Lets’ just stand together.”  That was a cue being given for the prophetess among them to stand and begin her prophesy.

“Yeah, as in the same way that I annointed my servants as in the days of old…The oil as a way of anointing them…yeah, I say of ye this day. This is my servant and I the Lord have anointed him with the oil…And I have anointed his hands and as he shall layeth them upon…upon the sick…and I the Lord shall prove that I am powerful and this is my doing and not of any natural form. This is my oil and my doings.”

A.A. Allen asks the audience, “do you think that is perspiration?”

The crowd yells, “No!” They WANTED to believe a lie. I wonder if anyone there wanted to test a thing.

I wonder if they would have been allowed.

Same spirit at work as was with Jim Jones. 

Another man begins to speak in the name of the Lord, “And I do declare in this day of visitation…”

A.A. Allen says, “Bring me that woman dying upon that stretcher.”

The old man yawning behind the speaker pretty much shows there were some who were bored with all the hype!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EkUyrY7bi_A&feature=related