The Pope is a Liar! Let the Redeemed of the Lord say so!

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Pope Francis says atheists can be good

Just do good, and we’ll find a meeting point, says Francis in marked departure from Benedict’s line on non-Catholics

Sorry, but the pope is a liar. If he thinks that just being good is enough to somehow make us worhty of, he is wrong.

Of course atheists can be good…  as neighbors, friends, loved ones, etc. I do not deny that. But to say that atheists or anyone else who has not called on the name of Jesus for salvation, for redemption, that somehow we all are redeemed, is a lie. A blatant outright lie. It is Universalism, the teaching that all will end up in the same place after death.

My words will not bother any true atheist as the true atheist does not believe in God to begin with. Those who it would bother would be those (atheist or not) who want to somehow believe they can get to a heaven (which some say they do not believe in) without the Blood of Jesus for the remission of sin.

It is not those of us who believe in Jesus who think we are better than others. It is those who believe they need no Savior who think they are better. Their moral code is Humanism, one of their own making. I see and know what the human race is capable of; Corruption, wickedness and evil. There is only one Person who can make things new and change a life and that is Jesus Christ. To redeem means to buy back, to purchase from corruption.

The pope is a liar. He preaches a false gospel. Those who trust in his words, his dogma are denying the truth of God. That Jesus came as THE perfect sacrifice for all of mankind. To believe all it takes is good works for redemption brings reproach to the truth. There is no other way to eternal life except through Jesus Christ.

Paul said: knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law but by faith in Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; for by the works of the law no flesh shall be justified. — Galatians 2:15 –

The pope is an anti-christ. He has taken the truth and twisted it for social/political gain, to help create a new world where we all are brothers and have all things in common. The unbeliever is not my brother or sister. If God is not their Father, they are not His children. Christians have been grafted in to the family of the One True God having the right to call God our Father. 

It does not mean that a Christian can not have an atheist friend. A friend that would mean them no harm. It just means that the two are entirely different than one another in beliefs and there is no common ground in that. There may be common ground in other areas, but when it comes to the truth as the Christian believes, the Christian will not compromise for a fake peace with those who are enemies of the Cross. The pope has shown me he is an enemy of the Cross.    

ttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/22/pope-francis-atheists-can-be-good

Atheists should be seen as good people if they do good, Pope Francis has said in his latest urging that people of all religions, and none, work together.

The leader of the world’s 1.2 billion Roman Catholics made his comments in the homily of his morning mass at his residence, a daily event at which he speaks without prepared comments.

He told the story of a Catholic who asked a priest if even atheists had been redeemed by Jesus.

“Even them, everyone,” the pope answered, according to Vatican Radio. “We all have the duty to do good,” he said.

“Just do good, and we’ll find a meeting point,” the pope said in a hypothetical reply to the hypothetical comment: “But I don’t believe. I’m an atheist.”

Francis’s reaching out to atheists and people who belong to no religion is in marked contrast to the attitude of his predecessor, Benedict, who sometimes prompted complaints from non-Catholics that he seemed to see them as second-class believers.

I do not see Atheists as second-class citizens. Never have and never will, except for the exception of the nasty ones I have run across every now and then. But the few I do know are pleasant people and they know I would do them no harm as I know they wish me no harm. However, Jesus Himself would not let anyone call him good, though He certainly was and is worthy of being called so. This is what He had to say about being good:

So Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. — Mark 10:18 –

I will say it again: The pope and anyone else who says there are others ways to be “redeemed” outside of the finished work done on the Cross by Jesus Christ, is a liar. Those of us who truly are redeemed need to start standing up and exposing the lies of the anti-christ that is meant to give people a false assurance.

Apostate Rob Bell affirms Homosexuality

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This is what happens when pastors and preachers all through America could not discern Rob Bell in the first place. When you can not discern something from the beginning, you end up having to deal with a greater delusion later on.

Would not surprise me one bit, if Rob Bell himself comes out at some point and says he is a homosexual. Does that make me judging? I’ve done said, I have known/know lots of homosexuals through my lifetime and loved each and everyone of them. But I dare not help them stay in the kingdom of darkness, by affirming them in their behavior.

Justin Hoke: Rob Bell in a clear demonstration of loving the world, affirms homosexuality. God can and does save homosexuals, but not apart from repentance. You cannot be homosexual and a Christian at the same time. Some Christians may struggle with homosexual sinful desires, but Bell is not saying any of this, rather he is boldly calling good what God has called sin.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/rob-bell-on-gay-marriage-support-god-pulling-us-ahead-to-affirm-gay-brothers-sisters-92395/

“I believe God [is] pulling us ahead into greater and greater affirmation and acceptance of our gay brothers and sisters and pastors and friends and neighbors and coworkers,” former megachurch pastor and best-selling author Rob Bell explained just days after surprising the evangelical Christian community with his expressed support for same-sex marriage.

I have said this many times and will say it again: Not everyone is our sister and brother. What part of “you must be born – again” is it that these apostates do not get? http://redeemedhippiesplace.wordpress.com/2013/03/17/who-are-the-children-of-god/

The former Mars Hill Bible Church founder and controversial Love Wins author told Odyssey Networks in an interview published Wednesday that many people are “realizing that God makes some of us one way and some of us another, and it can be a beautiful thing.”

If Rob Bell is referring to homosexuality here, and I believe he is, then he building an image of God that is not true. It is a lying anti-christ spirit. To call beautiful what God has called sin, is a lie from hell. 

The video interview, titled “Why Rob Bell Supports Gay Marriage,” comes just days after the Michigan church founder visited San Francisco’s Grace Cathedral (the Episcopal Cathedral of the Diocese of California) in a promotional book tour to discuss his purpose for writing What We Talk About When We Talk About God, his views on evangelical Christianity and future projects he has lined up.

During that event, Bell was asked about his stance on same-sex marriage and he explained that he was “for marriage.”

“I am for fidelity. I am for love, whether it’s a man and a woman, a woman and a woman, a man and a man. I think the ship has sailed and I think that the church needs to just … this is the world that we are living in and we need to affirm people wherever they are,” he responded.

Really? Would that I am for love thingy include being able to marry your dog, goat or pig?

What Rob Bell really wanted to say was, “I think the ship has sailed and I think that the church needs to just get on board.” Do we affirm others as well? 

Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God. — 1 Corinthians 6:9 – 11 –

Some observers expressed disappointment with Bell’s unorthodox view and found his remarks surprising, although the popular Christian author has expressed similar views in the past, previously calling gays and lesbians who identify as Christians “passionate disciples of Jesus.”

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Brad Williams, an Alabama-based Baptist pastor, denounced Bell’s comments, calling it “disconcerting for a Christian leader to say that the church should simply get in line with whatever the culture says.”

“… one thing the Christian cannot do is ask Scripture to take a back seat to cultural whims. That is what Bell is asking of us,” Williams wrote for Patheos.

“The universal church simply cannot follow Bell where he is going. The church has to be clear, and her leaders ought to be clear about the Bible’s teachings.”

Amid the criticism Bell has received, Brian McLaren, a friend of Bell’s and a well-known pastor specializing in post-evangelical thought who is also gay-affirming, has commended him for his “courageous” remarks.

“I think this is further evidence that we are reaching a tipping point in our culture where marriage equality will be seen in much of the way as the struggle for women’s equality and for civil rights now are seen as we look back in our history,” McLaren, who has been identified as part of the controversial emergent church, said in a video interview also with Odyssey Networks. “It takes courage to make these kinds of statements when you’re an author and speaker as Rob and I are, but it’s especially painful for pastors and priests to work this out in the midst of pastoral ministry.”

Liar. No, it does not take courage. All one needs is compromise. It takes courage to stand for the truth.

In his new book, What We Talk About When We Talk About God, Bell shares his take on how some theological ideas present in mainstream Christianity are outdated and irrelevant to the changing times – and that God is in many ways steps ahead of these old ideas and is pulling people forward.

Out right apostacy! The Word of God says: Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by grace, … — Hebrews 13:8,9 –

Who is Rob Bell to change the word of God?

“A lot of people when they say, ‘By God ahead do you mean by same-sex marriage?’ – Yes,” Bell said in his March 20 interview.

“We live in a world where we have friends, neighbors, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, people we journey with for years who are gay. And we need to love, affirm and all of us together work on the real problems that we have in the world. And I think that’s one of the things you’re seeing now, is you’re seeing God pull us all forward into a greater realization that we need more love, we need more fidelity, we need more monogamy, we need more people who are committed to each other.”

But no! We need more people who are committed to God, more committed to the truth!

“So this is a huge moment when I think lots of us are realizing that the old way of seeing things doesn’t work,” he added. “It causes so much pain and heartache and God’s inviting us to see things in new ways and we need to say ‘yes’ and then we need to step into the future together.”

Rob Bell and those who follow him, are of an anti-christ spirit. He is leading countless thousands right into the bowels of hell.

Bell also shared that he believes technology has played a major part in the shifting of many long-held views, saying that the Internet in particular has shown that people cannot live in their own “tribal bubbles” or “cocooned off” from the real world.

He added, “What happens when you are all suddenly exposed to thousands of different viewpoints is it can call your own into question and it can have this refining fire dimension to it when you realize that ‘wow, I’ve been living with a bunch of views and perspectives that don’t actually work and don’t actually bring life. So I need to be honest about that.’ And that can be painful, but it’s also liberating and that’s where the life is.”

What he is saying, is, it is ok to compromise the truth for the sake of getting something to work.

Bell, who left the Michigan congregation he founded in 1999 to move to California last year, is currently on a promotional tour for What We Talk About When We Talk About God. The former pastor, whose best-selling Love Wins book challenged traditional teachings on a literal, eternal hell and belief in Jesus Christ as a prerequisite for heaven, has also shared that he is developing a faith-inspired television show with “Lost” series creator Carlton Cuse.

And Jesus answered and said to them: “Take heed that no one deceives you. For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. — Matthew 24: 4,5 –

A Mom loses her Baby and later concludes The Word of Faith teaching is equivalent to Witchcraft

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When I read the following, it reminded me of my own loss of a baby. I was only at six weeks in my pregnancy when I miscarried. The day I found out I was going to have a baby was the happiest day of my life, next to my wedding day. I’ll never forget what that was like. But soon those hopes and expectations began to slowly crumble as something went wrong in my body. I had well meaning Christian women back then tell me, “Do not fear or the thing you fear will come upon you.” One particular woman came over to bring me a loaf of home made bread. She prayed for me, more or less telling me not to fear or I would cause the baby to die. I had people rebuking the devil off me and my baby. “It is not God’s will that you lose this baby. You must fight against it.” I would look at some of these women — some of them who homeschooled their children — and who had given birth at home through midwives — and thought to myself, surely they know what they are talking about, because they have children. I made the mistake of thinking they were somehow more spiritual just because they were a mother.

I did not want to be responsible for my baby’s death, so I did my best rebuking the devil, claiming the baby for God, through the pain and blood that miscarrying brings. Two friends, who were not in the name -it claim -it gospel, lovingly spoke to me, telling me it was not my fault, that it was ok to let go. I had not told them, but a day or so before, I had an impression that God was trying to let me know the same thing.

After it was all over with and I was able to go back to Church, I felt very conspicuous. It felt like other women were thinking along these lines: “There’s the woman who could not pray enough for her baby. She didn’t try hard enough. Because she was afraid, her worse fear came upon her. If only she had enough faith.” Whether anyone actually thought this, I don’t know. But if a woman had people telling her somehow it is within her power through what they call faith, to stop a miscarriage, then what else is a woman to think?

We do not always know the reasons behind things. I spent a number of years asking God “why?” “Why not give me a baby? Why do you let others have babies and not me?” At almost 60 years old, I no longer ask. I am content now. It does not matter to me anymore. One day I will know and it all will make complete sense. What does bother me though, are the many barren women out there who for some reason or another find yourself in the same place I was years ago. You have people telling you the same things I was told. Do not let people tell put this upon you. It is not only a form of witchcraft, it completely ignores God’s sovereignty. His ways are higher than ours.

http://thewordonthewordoffaithinfoblog.com/2013/03/31/ex-word-of-faith-testimony-a-mom-loses-her-baby-and-concludes-9-years-later-word-of-faith-is-equivalent-to-witchcraft/

On “Word of Faith” or “Believing Prayer” Movements

I’ve picked on the occult, media, Messianic Judaism, Harry Potter, and Beth Moore. I’ve picked on “spiritual disciplines”, tithing, and missionaries, “Purpose-Driven”/Emerging churches, pragmatism, Biblical authority, ecumenism, and a variety of Christian-living topics.

But until now I haven’t picked on the one topic that can make me mad as a hornet, quicker than anything (which surprises me, actually). I am usually passionate, though diplomatic about topics, even more so when speaking to non-Christians.

I enjoy the mutual exchanging of questions and learning about other people (but I do not like accusations). This subject however, brings a lot of personal emotions to the surface because I lived this worldview for a brief and very painful time.

Putting my faith in sincere and well-intentioned spiritual elders, my spouse and I bought into this worldview hook, line, and sinker at the start of our young marriage, and especially when our first-born was diagnosed with a fatal heart anomaly in utero.

We were promised that “if we had faith” (if we believed hard enough) God would have to heal her. We read in proponents’ books, about certain “spiritual laws” that God was bound by (ha!). We were told that only certain people must be told about the baby’s condition; those discerning few who really knew how to pray “correctly” for her; to “pray believing”.

Here is an example (from CBN’s website) on how to pray believing for “your personal” miracle (though they give themselves an out by not guaranteeing your desired outcome). http://www.cbn.com/spirituallife/CBNTeachingSheets/Can_I_Be_Healed.aspx

To my eternal regret, we hurt and deceived a lot of people by essentially lying about the baby’s condition, because if you admitted there was a problem, even allowed yourself the tiniest thought there might be a problem, you wouldn’t get your miracle (in New Age circles this idea is called “positive thinking” to an extreme, and obviously unhealthy end).

In my naiveté and desperate hope, I clung to the belief my baby would live even after she lay dead in my husband’s arms. I firmly believed God would bring her back from the dead (and I know now how crazy this all sounds) and awe all the nay-saying doctors.

It wasn’t until her graveside funeral a week later, when we pulled up to the outdoor awning and I saw her casket, that reality finally hit me. It hit me so hard I refused to get out of the car. I didn’t want that reality; that was not what I had worked and prayed and vainly hoped and “believed in faith” so hard for.

But the death of my Elizabeth Ann nearly nine years ago, has spurred me to look before I leap, and research and study my Bible harder than ever. I can now say unequivocally that the Word of Faith movement doesn’t work based on my experience, and it is very un-Biblical.

The most hurtful thing after Elizabeth’s death was the lack of apology on the part of those who had pushed their beliefs so hard. Rather than admitting the obvious (this system failed), they pulled away from my husband and I and grew distant and remained quiet. Worst of all, they continue to believe in and promote this garbage.

That is when I become very angry. The same people who convinced me of their beliefs and themselves held my dead baby or attended or spoke at the funeral, refuse to admit their mistake and seem intent on dragging other people through the hell that I went through.

It may just be my perception, but it appears this movement is growing. Take note however: this movement is merely witchcraft* in disguise. The idea of having to say prayer in a particular (i.e. ritualistic, formulaic, or prescribed) manner is a key occult practice; they call it incantation or spell-casting. The idea that God must abide by/is bound by certain rules He laid out in His creation seems blasphemous-we can never be God’s puppeteers. But this is also a key occult practice; trying to bend the natural or supernatural world and its residents to a “knowledgeable” (i.e. magician) human will.

A third underlying idea is that of keeping secrets, or being made to feel elite in the secret mysteries and understandings of God. The word “occult” literally means “hidden”, and there have always been a plethora of secret societies and mystery religions.

But Christianity is not one of them. The Bible is a collection of historical accounts on all the ways the God of the Bible has revealed Himself to people (not just the Israelites) throughout the ages. Daniel 2:47 says God is a “revealer of mysteries”. As God He could be mysterious, but He desires to be known by us and has revealed Himself for our benefit (http://www.gci.org/god/is2).

Other occult aspects that a particular Word of Faith group may or may not be involved in include divination (reading “signs from God” in tea leaves, hair, wood, screen doors, bird migration patterns, bones, entrails, etc.); protective amulets and talismans including lucky charms, blessed cross necklaces and the like (see: http://www.amuletgifts.com/Christian-Amulets/); astrology (reading the stars to determine God’s path for your life, like horoscopes); “special” prayers, blessings, or adjurations (words against demons) to bring health, wealth, children, etc. (like this: http://www.thejabezprayer.com/); music, scents (candles, oils, or incense-also known as aromatherapy), gems, or herbs with purported (i.e. not scientifically backed) properties/powers/abilities, especially in the area of healing or cleansing the spirit (see: http://www.tbnwebstore.org/product.asp?sku=0793573777690 or http://www.abbaoil.com/c-9-anointing-oil.aspx); rituals or formulaic practices for better communion with God, protection, healing, cleansing, etc. (labyrinths, special prayer routines, meditation/contemplative practices, spiritual disciplines, extreme positive thinking, being in God’s presence**, etc. etc.)

(A few examples: http://www.christianbook.com/soul-detox-clean-living-contaminated-world/craig-groeschel/9780310333685/pd/333685?event=1010SG|1154706|1010

http://www.christianbook.com/one-thousand-gifts/ann-voskamp/9780310321910/pd/321910?item_code=WW&netp_id=830957&event=1010|1154706|1010|1154706|1010&view=details

or http://www.christianbook.com/calling-deluxe-edition-enjoying-peace-presence/sarah-young/9781404187825/pd/187825?item_code=WW&netp_id=749896&event=1010|1154706|1010|1154706|1010&view=details).

Understand those who practice these things generally have a scripture or two or three that appear to back their position. After having studied my Bible a bit better, I have come to the realization that God did not fail my family, false prophets did.

It is so vital to not just read a passage in context of its sentence, but in some cases whole sections and even several chapters are needed to understand it in full (this is where many devotional books and Bible studies fail).

If you want to get to know God better, simple prayer and Bible reading is the only way to do it. It is not glamorous and will not usually involve an experience. It will not cater to our human nature to act on or do something. And the Bible does not promise health, wealth, protection, or mysteries to unravel. The only way to “spiritually detox” is through repentance, forgiveness, and the grace of the cross.

*It is rather ironic that practitioners of this movement like to define rebellion as synonymous with “witchcraft”, based on the misunderstanding of 1 Sam. 15:23 (here is an example of this misunderstanding turned “ministry”: http://www.mcleanministries.com/custom.html).

**Being “in God’s presence” or inviting the Holy Spirit “to come” is a nice, super-Christian thought. But if we are Christians, the Bible says we have the Holy Spirit (which is God) living in us, Romans 8:11, Acts 2:4, John 3:34, and John 20:22.

Therefore, we cannot invite the Holy Spirit to come more, nor can we purposefully cultivate a sense of God’s presence. These are merely emotional or supernatural highs that we can easily become addicted to. Remember also the Bible also describes a deceptive Satan and demons, as well as God and His angels.

Below are a host of other sources for your researching pleasure, but as always please do balanced research and always read your Bible in context. (Note: the last link is to a book I was given to read and be “inspired” by for my “faith”)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_of_Faith

http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/cultsandcharismatic.html

http://www.peaglej.com/blog1/

http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/word-faith.html

http://www.gotquestions.org/Word-Faith.html

http://www.intothyword.org/apps/articles/default.asp?articleid=36562

http://myfathershouse.squarespace.com/journal/2010/11/29/on-spiritual-manifestations.html

http://myfathershouse.squarespace.com/journal/2012/6/5/elitism.html

http://myfathershouse.squarespace.com/journal/2010/9/23/a-response-to-the-name-it-and-claim-it-trend.html

http://www.amazon.com/Gods-Generals-They-Succeeded Some/dp/0883689448

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Burn the Quran? Why?

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I had a video I wanted to put up, but for some reason it is not presenting me with the correct one, so I will have to do without.

I’m almost certain this will tick off some Christian American patriots, never – the – less, I find it true, therefore I will say it.

The main person who appears to first be behind the whole burn the Quran thing, is a pastor named Terry Jones. I was familiar with Terry Jones before he became famous for his self – seeking, self – exalting agenda.

He had his own youtube channel which since, that particular one has been deleted. He had a video of he and his wife (I suppose it was his wife) sitting at a kitchen table. At the time I was fairly new to the internet and stupid me was practically believing everything I saw and heard. A person can not get any dumber than that, people. In this particular video he was giving a date to the end of the world. He looked like a caring old grandpaw, using scripture. I would have fallen for it, had I not known what Jesus said:

“But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only. But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. — Matthew 24:36,37 –

Terry Jones has taken his Christian views and has found ways to profit just like many false teachers before him: http://www.doveworld.org/store

THAT makes him someone who uses the Gospel for personal gain and it is not even the Gospel he actually uses.

http://www.doveworld.org/

Dove World Outreach Center is a New Testament Church – based on the Bible, the Word of God.

We believe that God is calling a new generation in this end time – a generation of believers that is yielded to his Word and his will.

Our Land needs strong churches that understand and fulfill God’s vision of restoration and reformation, churches that are able to handle the revival we will see this century with the apostolic anointing, and bring Godly changes to our entire society.

God has a plan for your life! And we want you to be able to recognize your destiny.

God loves you and he longs for a real and deep relationship with you. He created you on purpose and it’s his desire that everyone knows and fulfills his calling.

Dr. Terry and Sylvia Jones
– Senior Pastors of

Dove World Outreach Center –

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I wish you could hear the raspberry sound I just made, so this will have to do: blah blah blah. Terry Jones obviously does not know his Bible. As the Bible NEVER speaks of a “revival we will see this century with the apostolic anointing, and bring Godly changes to our entire society.” Not once does scripture teach this. Jesus Himself, did not teach it. He spoke the opposite. He even said, “…Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will He really find faith on the earth?” — Luke 18:8 – The Bible speaks of a great apostacy. One of which Terry Jones is part of.

What is the destiny these false teachers speak of? The only destiny I see is one of picking up your cross. But none of these false teachers ever speak on that. Instead, they are building their little kingdoms here on earth, setting themselves up as our spiritual leaders, our guides, for us to follow under their apostolic anointing

They believe in a new “generation of believers that is yielded to his Word and his will.” Really? Does that include the Muslim? If so, why burn their books? What do you think that is going to accomplish? My question is, where do you even get the books? Do you actually go out and buy them just to burn them? If so, how stupid is that, when you could be purchasing Bibles?!  

And if that information is not enough for you, he has been like every other FALSE teacher and has become a whore by allowing himself to be bought. He got himself a new car for NOT burning the Quran. That not only makes him a whore, but a compromiser of what he said he believed.

http://www.newjerseynewsroom.com/state/florida-pastor-terry-jones-gets-free-car-from-nj-dealership-for-not-burning-quran

Now God worked unusual miracles by the hands of Paul, so that even handkerchiefs or aprons were brought from his body to the sick, and the diseases left them and the evil spirits went out of them. Then some of the itinerant Jewish exorcists took it upon themselves to call the name of the Lord Jesus over those who had evil spirits, saying, “We exorcise you by the Jesus whom Paul preaches.” Also there were seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, who did so.

And the evil spirit answered and said, “Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are you?”

Then the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, overpowered them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded. This became known both to all Jews and Greeks dwelling in Ephesus; and fear fell on them all, and the name of the Lord Jesus was magnified. And many who had believed came confessing and telling their deeds. Also, many of those who had practiced magic brought their books together and burned them in the sight of all. And they counted up the value of them, and it totaled fifty thousand pieces of silver. So the word of the Lord grew mightily and prevailed. — Acts 19:11-19 –

Paul did not march into Ephesus and say, “I am here to burn your books!” 

When I came out of the Occult, I had the books burned. No one forced me. No one talked me into it. It was my free will. I had the truth presented to me, a fear of God fell upon me, Jesus being the truth was magnified in me, and then I chose to have my books and occult supplies done away with.

When anyone leaves me a tract or some other kind of religious material at my door that I find false and misleading, it is mine to do with as I please. I simply throw it away. I do not have some great need to make a public display of burning them. So unless, it is your own personal Quran, according to scripture, you are either acting out of ignorance or you know very well what you do, choosing to inflame the masses by building your own little kingdom of followers. God knows!

Turn from those who want to use you for their own gain and notoriety!

Instead of going through all the hoopla and theatrics of burning books, (unless they are your own) how about getting in the real battle of trying to share the truth that sets people free?

Just saying.

One more and I am done

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One more and I am done with this guy. One more for those who did not test anything a few years back. One more for those who made excuses. One more for those who have mocked those who have tried to warn the sheep of the apostacy. One more for those who have created a new religion making Jesus look like a laughing drunken idiot through their blashphmeous teachings. Kenneth Hagin gave root to that one.

You can not do it anymore. You are faced with this now. It — is — your — baby. Own it.

As for the godly, those who refuse to bow to the vulgar and lying gospels that are being birthed by the whore, if any of you have children involved in any kind of youth group, you better make sure who and what they are following. “Oh but my child does not follow this,” some of you may say. You may be right. But are you sure? Can you be certain that not even the smallest bit of deception has entered in? Parents, it is up to YOU to teach your children. If you do not, Satan will gladly take them over.

I will not even try to transcribe his filth. To even give this attention, sickens me. But I will only for the sake of maybe some can be warned not to allow themselves to come under this at some time. As for others, may you repent and come out from under it.

What part of God being a HOLY God do people not get? Is anyone so blinded they really think God in heaven is winking at this? The God I serve does not. But the god Brandon serves does.

Repent, Brandon. Turn from this folly and wickedness and be washed in the blood of the Lamb who was slain for both you and me.

BB cuts lose with foul words saying, ”If you have a dirty mind, you can’t say it, but if you have a holy mind you can use it…”

Really? What does the Word of God say?

Therefore be imitators of God as dear children. And walk in love, as Christ also has loved us and given Himself for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet-smelling aroma.

But fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness, let it not even be named among you, as is fitting for saints; neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks. For this you know, that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. Therefore do not be partakers with them. — Ephesians 5:1-7 –

Once again, you can find the video by doing a search on Brandon Barthrop Formerly Known as Cuss Words

I can not even post the rest of his description.

But be warned

Proof of what loving a delusion will get you

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A few years ago when I first began this blog, my intent was to expose the apostacy within the Church. I have done that. I have put up hundreds of articles. The past few months have brought many changes in my heart. I hear the words of my Father telling me to get my eyes off the garbage both within and outside the church and fix them on Him. He is coming back. Whether He comes back in my lifetime or not, is not the point. The point is, He desires to see souls come to Him, desiring to set people free.

I am called to proclaim the Good News. No longer do I have to shout from the housetops railing against the darkness, as I have done, in my way, in my flesh. This world and the lying abomnible things of this world will pass away, but Jesus — the Truth — abides forever.

Truly darkness has covered the land. Great deceptions in our midst from every arena. From governments, politics, politicians, news media, entertainment industry, and even within what is called The Church. I believe the true Church — the Bride of Christ – must reach a point where we begin to take our eyes off the things of this world and fix them in heavenly places. It has been a very hard thing for me to do the past few years. The filth, the rot, the putrid decay of deception trying to erode away truth, mocking all that is good and esteeming that which is wicked, almost drove me insane. One would think I had never read the Word of God in my life by my total shock and surprise of the evil. After all Jesus warned us what it would look like. But I was shocked. I did not know it was going to so dark, so black, so evil, so wicked, so OCCULTIC.

This morning as I was going through this blog trying to decide what to get rid of or not, (I have way too many catagories, I think) I ran across the catagory of Brandon Barthrop. Some of you may be aquainted with him from a few years back. He and his followers were known for “toking the ghost”, “getting drunk in the spirit” etc. I had prayed for this young man over the years as I am sure many others have. I went to see what is new with him, if perhaps he has begun to walk in a resemblance of truth.

To my horror he has not. He has gotten worse. You can see the devils in his eyes. He has gone from being what some would have called a mere little goofball, to complete debauchery. I will not put his video up. It is much too vile. Yet, this is being esteemed as a “God thing” among those within the so – called church.

He happens to quote – surprise, surprise — Rick Jonyner’s book The Quest. You know the one. The one where RJ taught there was going to be a war in the Church in the years to come against the grays and the blues. The grays being those of us who dared to question their movement, their Jesus they were setting up for us all to worship — like it or not. Here is an excerpt from one who came out of RJ’s teachings:

http://thegreycoats.wordpress.com/tag/rick-joyner/

The grays were spoken of with disdain and derision. Gray represented the brain and those who lived in their minds without regard to the higher life of the spirit. The grays were the legalists, the old wineskins, those seeking to trap and keep God in a box. They were painted as the staunch, stuffed and sterile church that had long since faded into antiquity and outlived their usefulness. It seems to me, looking back, that anyone that opposed Joyner and his teachings was considered a gray and not open to the “moving of the spirit.” The grays, Joyner was quick to tell us would be overcome and destroyed in the fight for the “true” church to evolve to the next level. Of course, in his estimation, the grays would not go quietly into that good night so it might be necessary for us to assist God in finishing up the job. Let me put that in plain English. We would help God kill them. Looking back, it should have been all too clear to me but it wasn’t.

I tried to tell a few people in my personal life about Brandon Barthrop a few years back. They acted as if I should not be judging his behavior, after all, he was able to say the word Jesus out of his mouth. As if that in and of itself is enough proof in one has truly been born – again!

This is pulled off Barthrop’s facebook page and this is mild compared to some other stuff:

“The f…ing b..ch ass mother….ing generals of Joel’s mother….ing army are positioned all over the f…ing world. Right on time b…es. F… yea! Truth any mother….ing how.”

If you are interested in seeing what following one delusion after another looks like, you can do a search for his youtube video with the words Brandon Barthrop Cleansing the Temple of God – Judgment in the Church.

But do not say I did not warn you.

To anyone who might be passing through to get a peek at what I’m about these days, and if you are one who is following signs and wonders AFTER WE WERE WARNED NOT TO, if you are one of the ones who have thought me judging, as you have sat and judged nothing except for those of us who are being Bereans, if you are one of the ones who think just because someone can say Jesus out of their mouth then all must be well and good with that person, I CHALLENGE YOU TO GO ON AND GET A GOOD LOOK AT WHAT YOU DEFENDED a few years back. May — you — choke – on — it! The seasoned Christian within the church has allowed these things to happen by putting their seal of approval on it when they dared not question it, for refusing to test all things, for refusing to discern while in search of the latest thing, when they refused to look at it and see it for what it was in the beginning, for not speaking out and warning the younger generation!

The “Jesus Culture” – a petri dish for growing young new heretics?

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bzel333: The Jesus Culture Conferences are teaching biblical error. Some biblical errors are more obvious than others. One error that can be hard to detect is the “different gospel” that is taught and preached consistently throughout Jesus Culture’s teachings. It is “Word of faith” and signs and wonders and not at all Christ centered and cross focused. If you are planning to attend a Jesus Culture Conference, I would strongly reconsider attending.

Part 1: Heresies in “The Bible” TV series

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This will be part one of the heresies that will be covered in the “The Bible” series. I am just not able to focus on the entirety of it, right now. It has a very dark feel and makes me kind of ill to think so many people, including those within the Church are esteeming this as some great work. However, if you wish you can go one and read the rest of the article here.

Excerpt gotten here: http://beginningandend.com/the-bible-miniseries-hollywood-heresy/

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Here is that same account in the actual Bible:

And it came to pass, that, as the people pressed upon him to hear the word of God, he stood by the lake of Gennesaret, And saw two ships standing by the lake: but the fishermen were gone out of them, and were washing their nets. And he entered into one of the ships, which was Simon’s, and prayed him that he would thrust out a little from the land. And he sat down, and taught the people out of the ship. Now when he had left speaking, he said unto Simon, Launch out into the deep, and let down your nets for a draught. And Simon answering said unto him, Master, we have toiled all the night, and have taken nothing: nevertheless at thy word I will let down the net.

And when they had this done, they inclosed a great multitude of fishes: and their net brake. And they beckoned unto their partners, which were in the other ship, that they should come and help them. And they came, and filled both the ships, so that they began to sink. When Simon Peter saw it, he fell down at Jesus’ knees, saying, Depart from me; for I am a sinful man, O Lord. For he was astonished, and all that were with him, at the draught of the fishes which they had taken: And so was also James, and John, the sons of Zebedee, which were partners with Simon. And Jesus said unto Simon, Fear not; from henceforth thou shalt catch men. And when they had brought their ships to land, they forsook all, and followed him.                – Luke 5:1-11 –

Notice Peter’s reaction to the miracle that Jesus had performed. He and his men were fishing all night and caught nothing. There was seemingly, no way to catch any. Yet Peter believed Jesus’ words and obeyed him. And after the miracle, Peter dropped to a position of worship and said “Depart from me; for I am a sinful man, O Lord.” Recognizing one’s own sin before the morally perfect God and Lord that is Jesus Christ, is key to going to Heaven. This is again a critical aspect of how a person is saved from the wrath of God and the lake of fire. Peter understood he was in the presence of Divine Power and did not feel worthy. Yet Jesus encourages him by inviting him to come with him to “catch men”, meaning bringing more people to believe in Christ. And Peter “forsook all”, meaning he gave up everything he was doing with his life on the spot, to follow Jesus. All of this is what a person has to do in order to go to Heaven. Acknowledging your sin, confessing it to God, believing in Jesus Christ and giving up your past life of sinful ways and letting your own heart rule, in order to follow Jesus and let Him be Lord of your life, is all a part of being a born again Christian.

Does The Bible Miniseries illustrate these powerful points? Not at all. Instead of being astonished and worshiping at the feet of Jesus, Peter asks him “How did this happen? What did you do?” as if he had no idea what was going on. The Jesus character (who looked like the renaissance era/Catholic depictions of Jesus) responds: “I am giving you the chance to change your life..giving up catching fish and I will make you a fisher of men.” Peter answers “What are we going to do?” showing he still does not really understand if Jesus is divine or why it would be necessary for people to know Jesus. And the Jesus character’s answer is “Change the world.”

Change the world how? I suspect it has more to do with bringing everybody together under the guise of peace and love, than actual repentence. Typical New Age thought.

No mention of sin, acknowledging of Jesus as God in the flesh or a real salvation message. Instead it is almost a social justice message. Jesus Christ did not come to change the world, He came to save it from its sin. Without understanding that sin is the greatest problem the world is facing, Jesus’ message could be changed to just helping the poor, or providing water wells to communities in drought or working in a homeless shelter. All these actions, while noble, will not get you to Heaven or make one right before God. This is the problem with many churches as they put overemphasis on “changing the world” without first changing the sinful heart that has led a person into sin and damnation, lest they believe the Gospel. And the false doctrines being preach today, while exciting are not Biblical. Do not be deceived.

An Answer to Choo Thomas Defenders

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Dale Schauer has written another article in response to Choo Thomas. Once again, please do not leave me comments in trying to uphold her. Brother Dale has done an exhaustive work in explaining the truth and I refuse to keep going around the same old mountain. Many people have been able to see the truth and have ran from her heresy. As for those who still want to cling to her delusions as THE truth, you are free to leave this place and believe what you will. But know this: you have been told the truth.

http://annointing.wordpress.com/2012/12/03/balaams-in-the-end-times/

Let’s review some grounded facts. First, the Lord God of Israel is sovereign and supreme over all. He can take the bad and can take unclean vessels and turn it around and use it for good (Romans 8:28). Second, His written Word the Bible is infallible and is to be our only true guide on how to live our lives. Third, we are living in the very last days where it is prophesied in the Bible that many false prophets will arise who will deceive even the most discerning if the days are not shortened. Fourth, Born Again Christians are to test everything and hold onto only those things that are totally true and good. With those four facts to stand on, we can now move on.

I received a comment from someone who supports the book ‘Heaven Is So Real’ by Choo Thomas. They stated that they were brought closer to God and repented of their sins after reading the book. I would now like to state some further facts. First, Choo claims that it is Jesus’ end time book and that it is a book of truth. Second, Choo’s book is filled from one end to the other with deception that is in direct opposition to what the Bible teaches (see PDF at at http://annointing.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/concerns-about-heaven-is-so-real.pdf

). Third, my Christian walk has been inspired by many secular books and movies. They have a way of pricking my conscience that the Holy Spirit then takes and uses it for good in my life. What makes these sources different is that they do not claim truth like Choo does for her book.

Now to get down to the bare bones of how we should treat Choo’s book as Christians. Because Choo’s book claims to be fact and in reality it is filled with deception, we are to stay clear of it and point out its deception to other believers. To promote it is sin.

Do you realize that God can use anyone for His glory? Remember Balaam? God used Balaam, a pagan prophet who was hired by Balak, to share with Balak the blessings that He intended for Israel. Balaam had just seen God speak through his donkey. After hearing the donkey speak, God opened Balaam’s eyes (Numbers 22:31) and effectively made Balaam understand that God and God alone would give him the words to speak to Balak. There were 7 prophecies Balaam gave to Balak in Numbers 23-24. Remember that Balak had offered to pay Balaam to contact the gods and curse Israel. After all, that was what Balaam was known for in all the land. However, Balaam did nothing of the sort this time as he allowed God to speak through him 7 different times, all of which were blessings rather than curses on the nation of Israel. After Balak realized he wasn’t getting what he wanted he sent Balaam on his way without paying him (Numbers 24:11). Later Balaam caused the Israelites to sin through his counsel (Numbers 31:16). These exploits later cost him his life (Joshua 13:22). We are warned three times throughout the New Testament to stay away from the errors of Balaam.

Judas Iscariot was a New Testament Balaam. There are many preachers in Hell right now who have led many souls to Christ during their time on earth. Paul warns, “But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, lest, when I have preached to others, I myself should become disqualified. (I Corinthians 9:27)”

Choo Thomas has gone the way of Balaam. She has placed a stumbling block before the children of God (Revelation 2:14). The book she wrote, “Heaven Is So Real’ clearly was not given to her by The Lord Jesus Christ. 100% proof of this is that it does not line up with the Word of God (see the PDF). As to being brought closer to God, and repenting of one’s sins after reading the book, as one commenter to my post wrote me, is just simply testimony that God can turn Satan’s devices around and use it for His glory. Remember, it all boils down to Jesus, and not to Choo Thomas or her book.

Unfortunately there are many Balaams that have infiltrated Christianity in the age we are living. Do not forget that we are accountable to use discernment. All things that claim to line up with the Word of God and fall short by even 1 percent we are to turn away from. Satan misused Scripture when tempting Jesus. Even though Satan quoted the Scripture correctly, he was rebuked because he twisted it. The commenter needs to give glory to Jesus and not support the book in any way. It does not get any clearer than 1 Thessalonians 5:21 that says, “Test all things; hold fast what is good.”

Numerous testimonies abound from Christians who suffered depression and confusion after reading ‘Heaven is so Real’. James 3:17 clearly states, “But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy.”

To those who may have been touched by Choo’s book, a message of warning: let’s never get caught up in the worldly concept ‘The End Justifies The Means’ as far as it pertains to human efforts. Our job as Christians is to seek for Holy Spirit discernment on how to witness to people. Jude verses 22-23 says, “And on some have compassion, making a distinction; but others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire, hating even the garment defiled by the flesh.”

Cult Leader Thinks He’s Jesus

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“Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There!’ do not believe it. 24 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you beforehand.

“Therefore if they say to you, ‘Look, He is in the desert!’ do not go out; or ‘Look, He is in the inner rooms!’ do not believe it.   — Matthew 24:23 – 26 –

When asked questions, this messiah’s answers were vague and nonsensical.

When asked what was his favorite food: “It would be difficult for me to say something you would understand. I interpret things differently.”

Seems to me like the real Jesus, who knows all things, would be able to describe to a puny little human being in a way where he would understand. This is a tactic to make one’s self appear much more important, much more evolved than the average human being. But the truth of the matter is, this jesus is nothing but a mere man, who has found ways to deceive many people.

When asked by the interviewer, “Just meeting me briefly, can you tell me any thing about my soul?”

“I can feel a person, but can not define the features. They are undefined. It depends upon what you want to hear.”

You mean to tell me that Jesus would not be able to see and know all things about one’s soul?

I am the good shepherd; and I know My sheep, and am known by My own. — John 10:14 — (Jesus)

My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. — John 10:27 –

“If you could tell one bit of advice, that of yours here, could follow, relatively easy, what would it be?”

“Do not try to be superior among the people around you. That intention leads to death.”

In other words: “It is ok for me to be worshipped. But you, you must submit yourself to my every ordinance while I live as a king/messiah among you.”

Very hypocritical, don’t you think?

Actually, in some ways, this is not any worse than what is going on in a lot of mainstream churches of today. Some people have made their pastor an idol, becoming totally dependent upon him for every word. They get so involved in church and church activities they have no room for anything else in their life. If that too is not cultic, I don’t know what it is.

vice:
Deep in Siberia’s Taiga forest is Vissarion, a cult leader who looks like Jesus and claims to be the voice of God. He’s known as “the Teacher” to his 4,000 followers, who initially seem surprisingly normal. Over time, however, their unflinching belief in UFOs and the Earth’s imminent demise made this group start to look more and more like some sort of strange cult.

Mormonism is not the problem — Lukewarm Christianity is the Problem

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Recently someone made the comment on a social network that Mormonism is more dangerous than Satanism. I have to disagree. Satanism – a religion that teaches self-indulgence, points to self, makes up your own rules for each individual, each individual doing their own thing with no absolutes– is more dangerous in my opinion. With that being said, America is already practicing Satanism. However, if you want to talk about the danger of a Mormon revival in the land, then yes, that is dangerous. Very dangerous.

I may be wrong, but I suspect that if Mitt Romney gets in the Whitehouse, there may be a Mormon revival of sorts. People who have had no religion or Biblical knowledge, perhaps liking his values of decency, hard work and personal responsibilty, may look upon the man and decide to take on his religion. This would be very deadly for any of us who believe that Mormonism is NOT the true Gospel, but one who has it’s roots in golden tablets, an angel named Moroni and a false prophet named Joseph Smith. No one and I mean no one can believe the Bible is the absolute Word of God and embrace Mormonism as the truth of God. It is not possible.

Even so, the bigger problem still is not Mormonism. The problem is lukewarm Christianity that refuses to look deception in the face and call it out. This will be the greater danger. When/if Christians fail to speak the truth, they have compromised the truth. Making it of little importance and thus helping many to enter hell with a false gospel.

Don’t be a Joel Osteen.

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Who is deciding what you believe? Oprah, Joel Osteen or GOD?

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The world and the church are being indoctrianted for what will be the new religion one day. Lucierferism, Satanism, Secularism, Humanism. A “religion” with no absolutes. Other than the one absolute they teach which is all roads lead to God.

Who is your teacher? The likes of Oprah, Joel Osteen or God?

Do not be afraid to test this. Just make sure God’s Word is your plumbline. Anything else, will lead you astray.

Know this: who and what you believe does determine where you will spend eternity. So which is it? The ear-tickling star-studded sugar coating liars of today? OR GOD? Your choice. 

Think not that you have a problem with me, if you refuse to see the truth. Instead, you have a problem with God.

APOSTATE LIE: Coming Supernatural Wealth Transfer

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Video is below

Talk about taking scripture out of complete context! THIS, Bride of Christ is a fine example of these apostates setting you up NOW to start giving your finances to them before all hell breaks loose in the economy.

Benny Hinn teaching wealth transfer. This is what witchcraft in the church looks like. It is appalling!

“When God blesses you, He blesses you big. And the Bible says you don’t have to work for it.”

What an out right lie! BH’s lie gives people the impression that money is just going to come to them without any action on their part.

For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat.
— 2 Thessalonians 3:10 –

He is helping people to stumble in the faith if they end up not being able to feed their own family! 

But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever. — 1 Timothy 5:8 –

I am amazed how these deceivers ALWAYS use examples from the old testament instead of going to the new testament. The New Testament teaches us that Jesus had no place to lay His head. Did HE have all the riches this world has to offer? Certainly not.

BH uses Abraham, Issacc, Jacob, Joseph, Israel, and Soloman as examples of the rich. All taken from the old testament. He says there were six of them and now, “You are number 7.” Most of us know by now these heretics are using numerology with their use of numbers to back up their teachings as some kind of ordinance from God. God is nowhere in this.

“You are number seven, on your way to heaven.”

I do not claim to know who is going to heaven. But this is scarey, church. Here is a man telling a group of people they all are going to heaven. False assurance?

“God is going to give you the wealth of the sinner.”

Greed! He has just helped the church to covet by desiring what is someone else’s — sinner or not!

There is a chance to buy Benny hinn’s book on teaching you how to receive the wealth of the wicked. KACHING. Right into Hinn’s bank account!

He’s got his creepy MANIPULATING/WITCHCRAFT voice at 7:30 “You people listen to me well. If you don’t obey god today, you’re going to lose tomorrow.” That finger of his pointed as if he is some great truth speaker.”People who disobeyed in the old and new testaments were cut off.”

A fear tactic. Remember that.

At this point he tells a cutesie little story that brings some laughter. Now whether he did this to break down some resistance or not, God knows. Personally, I think it is every bit of a type of mind control and they know exactly how to work a crowd.

He goes on by giving examples of how he gave thousands of dollars when he was broke. Of course this was many years ago and no proof of any such thing. Even if there were proof, it does not mean God is requiring you to give your money to these deceitful workers of iniquity.

He explains he was so broke and god told him to give up his last 10 cents. This is preparing the people even more to empty their wallets as he shares this pathetic sob story!

“I’m gonna ask you to do what I did that day…I don’t know why god told me to give athousand dollars…something in my being told me to give a thousand.”

He continues by telling the people if they do what he will ask them, it will be the best thing that happens to them and their family.

Never mind if they will have food on the table, never mind if they have a house payment or bills to pay. Just fork it over to the man in the fancy suit!

“And as you pray, god is going to talk to you. Then I want you come down here and sow a thousand dollars in the Lord’s work…God has already placed a thousand dollars in your hands. You have it some place. I know you have other plans for it, but god has just changed your plans.”

“I’m standing here because of my obediance of so long ago.”

No, he is standing there because people have propped him up for decades and made him a billionaire!

This whole charade leads to the teaching of offerings. No surprise there. BH is preparing the people to empty their wallets in hopes of getting some of that wealth and the only one walking away from this with money in their pocket is Benny hinn! WAKE UP CHURCH!

Do not come here and try to defend this man. Your comment will not be posted. If you want to believe this stuff, you are free to do so. You deserve to have every cent taken from you in the days to come.

As for the sheep who are coming out from among them, continue to test all things. You do not have to be afraid of the teachings of Benny Hinn. Do not let him put a yoke on you.

The Deception in the “Common Good”

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The following video was made by a dear woman who gives part of her testimony on what she saw in the political movement to save the unborn and America. She has entitiled it “God will not allow his elect to be deceived.” However, I must disagree with the title. The word of God does tell us that the very elect of God will be deceived in the days to come IF possible.

A big hearty amen to her video and discernment — These are some of her quotes: God is not about “unity” for a common cause, but unity in his truth for the furtherance of His Kingdom, not man’s idea of an earthly kingdom. Two can not join or walk together unlesss they agree in the Truth.

Let a little sin in the camp, a little unequal yoking and it will pollute with an everlasting pollution, it will corrupt with an everlasing corruption, it will destroy souls.

If you look at nothing else, at least go to the 4:5o mark and see what happened at a meeting when men were commanded to sing the praises of man instead of to God. THIS is exactly what an anti-christ spirit is all about. This is what is being set up for us to worship: men and their agendas. Do not be deceived, dear ones. TEST ALL THINGS.

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Joel Osteen’s other gospel

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By Tom Flannery

Are we all born basically good, children of God by birth?

If you listen to the hugely popular happy-talk preacher Joel Osteen, the answer is yes. But if you read the Bible, it’s a definitive “No!”

During a recent interview on CNN with Piers Morgan (he’s the new Larry King), Osteen assured a worldwide audience that we’re all born children of God, so we’re all basically good in our nature.

This includes Adolf Hitler, by the way, a man personally responsible for the Holocaust where millions were systematically murdered and World War II where tens of millions more perished.

Osteen told Piers that he couldn’t explain Hitler’s monstrous evil, but he’s sure he wasn’t born that way. And if Hitler was born good, then so too were Stalin, Mao and all of history’s other mass murderers, ethnic cleansers, serial killers, child rapists … well, everyone.

Yet the Word of God tells us the exact opposite is true. The Bible declares that all of us have sinned throughout our past and continue falling short of God’s standard of righteousness in our present (Romans 3:23). Isaiah 53 reveals that we have all gone astray like wayward sheep and have “turned, every one, to his own way.”

Therefore, Psalm 53 says God looks at all mankind and declares: “Every one of them has turned aside; they have all together become corrupt. There is none who does good; no, not even one” (emphasis mine).

Indeed, when the rich young ruler called Jesus “good,” He responded: “No one is good but God” (Luke 18:19). The young man didn’t have the spiritual insight to understand that Jesus is God, so the exchange ended there. Still, Jesus made it clear that only God is good, and no human being meets that lofty standard.

Jesus told us that we must be perfect, even as God is (Matthew 5:48). This is God’s standard of goodness – absolute perfection. This has been called Plan A for salvation. As someone once remarked: “Thank God for Plan B,” which is salvation by God’s grace through faith alone in Christ’s finished redemptive work on the cross for us (Ephesians 2:8-9, Titus 3:5, etc.).

We consider ourselves good because we compare ourselves to other people, and we can always find someone worse than we are. Scripture describes those who “commend themselves” (for their goodness, good works, etc.) as being the ones who “measuring themselves by themselves are not wise” (2 Corinthians 10:12).

That’s because Charles Manson is not the standard by which we’re measured. Neither is the guy down the street who gets drunk and beats his wife. Nor any other person. The One we’re being measured by is Christ Himself, who is good because He lived a perfectly sinless life – in His actions, words and thoughts. Anything less than that is unacceptable to a perfectly holy, perfectly just God who cannot tolerate sin (Habakkuk 1:13). He can only punish sin.

Of course, as Piers pointed out in questioning Osteen about his elusive views on homosexuality, the perpetually smiling preacher doesn’t have a whole lot to say about sin. In fact, hardly anything at all. Nor does he like to delve into such issues as eternal judgment or the reality of hell. They’re “too negative.” They bring people down.

Yet these are the very issues God most wants us thinking about and dealing with, for the Bible says His Spirit is in the world with the express purpose of convicting all mankind “of sin, righteousness and judgment” (John 16:8). Sin because it’s our sin that separates us from God; righteousness because there’s a righteous standard we all fall infinitely short of meeting but which Christ has attained for us, and offers us as a free gift when we trust in Him alone for salvation (John 3:16, 3:36, etc.); and judgment because apart from trusting in Christ alone, we have nothing to look forward to but eternal judgment.

This doctrine of original sin (for which the whole world already stands condemned before God) lies at the heart of the gospel message Christ said should be proclaimed by His servants throughout the world until He returns.

But if we’re all children of God from birth, then why bother with such dour material? That’s clearly Osteen’s position, although here again, God’s Word says something completely different.

According to the Bible, none of us is born a child of God. Instead, we must be adopted into His family (Romans 8:14-15, Galatians 4:4-7, Ephesians 1:5-6) by trusting Christ. Scripture explains that believers are “all children of God through faith in Christ Jesus” (Galatians 3:26); we “become children of God” when we accept Christ by faith alone (John 1:12, emphases mine).

Because the scourge of sin entered mankind through the Fall of Man in the Garden of Eden, we all have a sin nature. This means we are born separated from God and can only be saved by means of a second (spiritual) birth (1 Peter 1:23). As Jesus put it: “Unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. … You must be born again” (John 3).

 

Joel Osteen and other so-called “prosperity preachers” are directly contradicting God’s Word on the fundamental tenets of the faith, opting instead to preach a message of worldly riches and continual temporal blessings. They have forsaken the one true gospel to proclaim a false message, a “different gospel which is really no gospel at all” (Galatians 1:6).

This “other” gospel won’t save you, but it does make preachers filthy rich, tickles the ears of their followers and fills football stadiums with people willing to give until it hurts (so they, too, can cash in, you see).

It’s a far cry from the One who said: “My kingdom is not of this world.” But when there’s so much money to be made in this life, who wants to wait for eternal blessings and rewards in heaven?

That would be such a total downer!

Purpose Driven Resisters – Must Leave or Die

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Article below sent to me by a friend. It appears to have been written in 2006. 

http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/resistersdieorleave.htm

Those who oppose the “program” are called leaders from hell.

I will interject something here: The leaders from hell, are men like Rick Warren who is pushing this New Age gospel and jesus.

The phone calls and emails started coming in about three years ago. Sometimes the caller was in his mid-eighties, sometimes the caller was crying. But all of them had the same kind of story to tell – when their churches decided to get involved with 40 Days of Purpose, everything began changing and when they questioned these changes, they each soon found themselves silenced, ostracized and eventually without a church to attend. Now today, nearly five years after Purpose Driven Life was released, thousands of believers are scattered throughout the world, having been ridiculed and demoralized for even just the slightest questioning of the Purpose Driven program. In one email we received, the young man was handed a letter from his pastor. The letter had been written by a Saddleback field representative who told the pastor to do what he had to do to get rid of those opposing the new program.

According to Rick Warren, these people are resisters and are standing in the way of Purpose Driven progress. In a June 14th article written by Rick Warren on his website (What Do You Do When Your Church Hits a Plateau? ), Warren told pastors and church leaders not to be discouraged about slow change in their churches. He told them it would take time … and in many cases it would take these resisters either leaving the church or simply dying. Warren stated:

“If your church has been plateaued for six months, it might take six months to get it going again. If it’s been plateaued a year, it might take a year. If it’s been plateaued for 20 years, you’ve got to set in for the duration! I’m saying some people are going to have to die or leave.

Moses had to wander around the desert for 40 years while God killed off a million people before he let them go into the Promised Land. That may be brutally blunt, but it’s true. There may be people in your church who love God sincerely, but who will never, ever change.”

For Warren to couple his statement about dying or leaving with a statement about God killing off a million people is ignorant at best, subliminal at least. Coupled with his mention of 40 years in the desert and Warren’s teaching that God always did good things in numbers of 40, Warren’s intention in this statement seems obvious. In addition, the concept of get with the program, change or die is very common in New Age circles, that those who don’t get on board (or ride the wave as Leonard Sweet puts it), will have to die. Listen to the words of renown New Ager Barbara Marx Hubbard:

“Christ-consciousness and Christ-abilities are the natural inheritance of every human being on Earth. When the word of this hope has reached the nations, the end of this phase of evolution shall come. All will know their choice. All will be required to choose…. All who choose not to evolve will die off.” (See The Plan)

Furthermore, Leonard Sweet, in his book, Soul Tsunami, says that:

“A sea change of transitions and transformations is birthing a whole new world and a whole new set of ways of making our way in the world…. It is time for a Postmodern Reformation … Reinvent yourself for the 21st century or die. Some would rather die than change.” (pp. 17, 75).

Perhaps like those who willingly went to the flames rather than to denounce the truth? Those whom the world is not worthy of.

Rick Warren (whose endorsement sits on both the front and back covers of Sweet’s book) says that Soul Tsunami “shows us why these are the greatest days for evangelism since the first century.” In an audio set done by Rick Warren and Leonard Sweet called Tides of Change, the two men elaborate on this and make it clear that those who don’t ride this new wave will not make it.

One of the tools Rick Warren uses to help churches become Purpose Driven is a book called Transitioning: Leading Your Church Through Change. The book is sold on Rick Warren’s website and is written by Dan Southerland. According to pastors.com (Rick Warren’s website to pastors), Southerland is the director of “Church Transitions Inc., an organization that trains pastors and church leaders to effectively manage major transitions. Southerland … is the leading expert on implementing the Purpose Driven paradigm in existing churches.”

Chapter six of Transitioning is called “Dealing with Opposition” and is just one of many ways Rick Warren tries to convey the fact that those who oppose him are less than desirable. Southerland states:

“We have experienced two major sources of criticism during our transitions. The first is Christians from more traditional backgrounds…. Not all of our traditional backgrounded Christians have been critical – just the ornery ones. Our second source of criticism is traditional church pastors. Again, not all traditional church pastors – just the meaner ones.” (p. 116).

I have to say, I guess I’m one of those ornery ones. Because I will NEVER back down from these apostates.

Southerland tells readers that “some folks are going to get very angry.” He goes so far as to liken opposers of Purpose Driven to “leader[s] from hell.” He says:

“If you have read Nehemiah recently, you will remember that Sanballat is Nehemiah’s greatest critic and number one enemy. Let me put it plainer than that. Sanballat is a leader from hell. We all have some Sanballats in our churches. This is the guy who opposes whatever you propose…. You cannot call this guy a leader from hell to his face – but you could call him Sanballat.” (p. 115).

In 2003, during Saddleback’s 25th anniversary, Rick Warren recited, along with 30,000 participants, the Purpose Driven Covenant. In that covenant he stated that he would do “whatever it takes” to accomplish his goals. For us at Lighthouse Trails it has become increasingly evident that he wasn’t kidding when he said that. Last year, as some of you may remember, we issued a press release that showed the connection between Rick Warren and Ken Blanchard. In Warren’s own words, he acknowledged that Blanchard, a New Age sympathizer, had “signed on” to help implement Warren’s global P.E.A.C.E. plan. Warren stated this at a Saddleback service as well as at the 2003 Lead Like Jesus conference in Alabama. However, a month after we issued the press release, Lighthouse Trails received an email from Rick Warren. The email was sent in the middle of the night, and by the following morning, Warren had given permission to a colleague to post his email online. We contacted Saddleback and confirmed this. Needless to say, countless people found out about this email. However, what most who read his email did not realize was that the majority of the statements in his email were not true. We posted a public response but knew that most people would either only read Warren’s email to us or refuse to believe that America’s pastor was lying and we were speaking the truth.

Lighthouse Trails learned of Rick Warren’s connection to Ken Blanchard through a book called A Life With Purpose, written by Hollywood biographer, George Mair. Ray Yungen discusses this in his book, A Time of Departing:

In the spring of 2005, someone handed me a book called A Life with Purpose by George Mair. The book is written as a positive account of Rick Warren’s life. In fact, the subtitle on the front cover reads: America’s Most Inspiring Pastor. It is clear that the author had a great admiration for Warren. While Mair wrote the book, he spent many Sunday mornings at Saddleback church services, listening to Rick Warren and donating financially. However, after Rick Warren found out about the book, he publicly criticized it. In addition, Saddleback church sent out emails to an undisclosed number of people, discrediting Mair’s book.

I personally believe Warren’s effort to debunk the book was an attempt to conceal some of its observations. What George Mair didn’t realize was that in his candid account of Warren, and in his efforts to offer this testament of praise, some things were revealed about the pastor that might have gone undetected by the average person. For instance, Mair explains how New Age prophet Norman Vincent Peale was at the foundation of the church-growth movement and furthermore “many of Peale’s uplifting affirmations originated with an ‘obscure teacher of occult science’ named Florence Scovel Shinn.” Referring to many of the methods that Peale taught and his “unification of psychology and religion,” Mair says, “Saddleback distinctly bears the stamp of Reverend Norman Vincent Peale.”

In November of 2003, Rick Warren announced to his Saddleback congregation his global P.E.A.C.E. Plan. In the same sermon, Warren introduced the congregation to Ken Blanchard, playing a video clip of Blanchard’s visit to Saddleback a few days earlier. Warren informed his large congregation that Blanchard had:”… signed on to help with the P.E.A.C.E. Plan, and he’s going to be helping train us in leadership and in how to train others to be leaders all around the world.”

In light of the fact that Ken Blanchard has promoted Buddhism and Eastern style meditation for over 20 years, it became very alarming to know that Rick Warren was using Blanchard to train leaders around the world.

The weeks following Rick Warren’s email to us, we received phone calls and emails from different men from Saddleback, one of them telling us to stop “lobbing dead cats [and grenades] over the wall.” It was confirmed also that an email was sent out from Saddleback to an unknown number of people, discussing the Blanchard issue. That email stated that Lighthouse Trails had lied and they should not be listened to.

And then in December of 2005 a very strange thing happened – a woman sent us an email she had received from Rick Warren’s personal email address, which stated:

“The website you refer to [Lighthouse Trails] below is well-known for publishing lies, which can easily be proven false…. The Bible says “Satan is the father of lies”, so those who intentionally spread them are doing Satan’s work for him. That is evil. We suggest you avoid listening to evil people who have a habit of lying about ministers of the Gospel. Study the Scriptures every day and flee from those who make their reputation by lying.”

We contacted Saddleback about the email, and we received the following reply, suggesting that the email had been written by a computer hacker: “We are sorry that this public mailbox has been shut down due to vandalism and stolen identity. Federal enforcement officers are tracking down the source in either Africa or the Pacific Northwest.” At first, we thought this was a joke because we (who live in the Pacific Northwest) had recently issued a press release about an evangelist in Africa who had been opposing Purpose Driven. Hearing that Federal officers had narrowed down an investigation to either our location or the evangelist’s location seemed preposterous. We contacted Saddleback by phone requesting the names of these Federal agents because of the threatening nature of the “anonymous” email. A few days later a Saddleback staff member called and told us that Federal agents were doing an investigation on their web server being broken into and that Saddleback suspected Lighthouse Trails. We again asked for the names of the Federal agents as well as the Saddleback communications director that was handling the case. However, we were told they would not give us any names. We have not heard anything from Saddleback since.

We testify of these things, not to distract you from the issues at hand (of exposing contemplative and emerging spirituality within the church), but rather to show that Rick Warren, as well as other leaders, will go to great lengths to preserve their status and to complete their tasks, even to the point of lying, threatening, discrediting and deceiving. While we have postponed releasing this information for several months, because of Rick Warren’s continuous brazen remarks against the body of Christ and because Purpose Driven is an avenue through which the New Age is entering the church, we believe it is of utmost importance to relay this documentation to believers who are working so diligently to defend the gospel message of Jesus Christ in a time when a great falling away appears to be at hand.

The question we must ask is just how far will Rick Warren go to help rid churches of those they consider “leader[s] from hell,” who in reality may be part of the very Bride of Christ.

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Special Note: Recently the Calvary Chapel movement (founded by Chuck Smith, Sr.) made a bold declaration when they decided to reject the emerging and contemplative prayer movements and to discontinue their support and use of all Purpose Driven materials. Many applaud this bold and sacrificial action.

A Visit to Rick Warren’s Health Seminar

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Unless he repent, men like Rick Warren will actually help set up the anti-christ. He is already doing it! Rick Warren worshippers, do not come here trying to defend him. Time is short and I am not going to waste time trying to convince you of the truth. You have a duty, an obligation, a command to TEST ALL THINGS. I have pointed you to the truth. What you do with it, is your buisness.

Following article gotten here: http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/011/lighthousetrails/warren-seminar.htm

I first arrived to Saddleback’s campus only to be told that “all parking lots were full.” I drove across the street to see if there were any spots available in the business lots, and they were full too. I ended up parking in a housing tract and walked a mile or two back to Saddleback’s campus. As I arrived, I overheard a parking lot attendant say they estimated about 6,000 people had come to the seminar.
I was a little late, so I was grateful to my nephew who went online and began to relay what was being said in the opening comments, as I didn’t want to miss what was to be the foundation of the talks that day. I was a little taken aback when my nephew told me the first speaker, Dr. Amen, made reference to the Egyptian pyramids and how they were built upon an “idea,” and if man could build something like that all those thousands of years ago, what could he do today if he put his mind to it? I found that to be somewhat disturbing, as the pyramids, no matter how impressive they were, represent the ancient pagan religions which got their start in Babylon when Nimrod gathered men (the community) together to commit idolatry by building a tower to honor themselves as gods (Gen. Ch. 11).[1]

And yet here it was, the analogy that was chosen to illustrate this new “idea” Saddleback would launch their 52 week program with. No matter what Dr. Amen’s intent was, I believe the analogy was appropriate, and the subtle message is telling…”MAN CAN DO ANYTHING HE PUTS HIS MIND TO.” Sound familiar? (Read Gen. 3:4-5).[2]

As I began to head up the hill toward the main sanctuary, a Saddleback tram pulled up and the driver asked if I wanted a lift. I said I preferred to walk, but thanks. The driver yelled, “Let’s all give her a hand folks, she’s started the Daniel Plan already!” And the people on the tram cheered. Never mind the fact that I have been walking my entire life because I enjoy doing so, not because of some health and fitness campaign. I sensed I was entering a nightmare.

The main sanctuary was full, & it was standing room only. They told me the overflow areas were full too. So I found a spot on the patio outside the main sanctuary looking in. I had a good view and could see the stage perfectly. Their outdoor sound system made it so I could roam around, observe the audience, continue to listen to the guest speakers, and take notes.

To begin, I’d like to state that Saturday Jan. 15th, 2011 will go down in the history books as the day Saddleback Church was sold a bill of goods. The masses had come out in droves for answers to their weight loss difficulties & health problems, but unbeknownst to them, they were being given a prescription for restructuring society & population control.

The prescription goes by the name Agenda 21, a.k.a. “Sustainable Development” or “Smart Growth.” Agenda 21 is a published document put out by the United Nations with the intent to put limits on population and to restructure nation-states into a global society.[3] Rick Warren’s “new friends” had dubbed it, “The Daniel Plan – God’s Prescription For Your Health.” A more appropriate title would’ve been, “Sustainable Living – Destroying Inalienable Rights, One Community at a Time.”

By the time I settled into listening more intently, the second speaker, Mark Hyman, began. It didn’t take too long to figure out what the basis of his message was: We “need to heal with community” (he termed this “accompaniment”), “we’re here for the sake of each other,” this plan “is our way out,” this plan “saved me,” and in fact will “change the world.”

Saddleback was being told they were a “test community” to show the world how to live “healthy and sustainably.” When I heard these words, my heart sank. It was as I’d feared. I knew which buzzwords to listen for, and he was hitting them all. The audience was told they would be champions in health to show the world what “living sustainably” was all about, but Dr. Hyman is a leftist who is more than a champion in health, he’s a change agent for the global elite, as is Dr. Oz & Dr. Amen. Dr. Hyman is the founder and medical director of the Ultra Wellness Center, he advises Dr. Oz’s healthcore group, and he’s a nominee to President Obama’s advisory group on prevention, health promotion, and integrative and public health. [4] Hmmmmmm. I smell an agenda.

Dr. Hyman practices what’s known as “functional medicine,” which means he uses a “whole systems” approach to medicine; in other words, he practices medicine “wholistically,” This is also known as “Mind Body” medicine. At Saddleback’s seminar, “mind body” or “functional” medicine was presented as if it’s completely scientific. Any scientist worth his salt will tell you that yes, the body can be measured scientifically, but the mind falls into an entirely different category which can never be measured by science. As stated by Dave Hunt in his book Occult Invasion – The Subtle Seduction of the World and Church, “Physical science, by very definition, can make no judgments concerning a nonphysical realm” as is the mind & the soul.[5] In other words, the mind and the soul are scientifically immeasurable.

It’s the same with the religions of “Mind Science.” Calling a religion “Mind Science” or “Scientology,” when there’s nothing scientific about it, is the same as calling a cereal “Grapenuts” when it contains no grapes or nuts. But we live in an era when the masses have been sufficiently dumbed down, and all it takes to impress is clever packaging and branding. If “they” say it’s science, then dog-gone-it, it’s science! After all, “these doctors are on television.”

As I sat through all 3 presentations by Dr.’s Hyman, Amen, & Oz, what came to mind were the traveling salesmen of the 1800s. They talk fast, so fast that the message that’s really being given, goes right over people’s heads. They used tactics to tug at the heart strings such as videos of sick little girls who suddenly got well from being on “the program” and have been “set free” from relying on medications. Then they flooded the audience with “facts” and “statistics” to scare any grandmother, such as “a tsunami of disease is hitting us,” “life expectancy is going down,” “1 out of 2 people are diabetic or pre-diabetic,” “70% of all agricultural land is taken up by growing animals to feed all the people,” “the bigger your body gets, the more your brain shrinks,” etc.

I about fell off my chair when Dr. Hyman stated, “The key to the success of the “Daniel Plan” is “group living” … “individuals” will not succeed, our only hope lies in “community.” [LT Note:This is exactly what the emerging church is teaching.] And with that, it was announced that the “Saddleback community” would be an example of “sustainable living” and would set the course to “change this world” … and the crowd went wild! [LT Note: Remember, when we reported how Rick Warren talked glowingly about a critical mass needed to change our world?]

Dr. Hyman said that he is a Jew, Dr. Amen said he is a Christian, and Dr. Oz said he is a Muslim. And doesn’t that represent the demographic of “most of the population of the world”? But then he said, “we’re all the same underneath.” True to his salesman fashion, Dr. Hyman didn’t define his terms. What in the world does he mean “we’re all the same underneath”? That can mean a number of things. Since he was speaking to a religious crowd, I’d venture to say some of the folks present took that to mean we’re all children of God (Jews, Muslims, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, etc.), which is patently false according to the Bible. The Bible says there are only two groups, children of wrath and children of God. You’re either one or the other, a believer in Christ Jesus, or a non-believer. We aren’t “all the same underneath.” (Ephesians Ch. 2).[6]

The only way in which we’re “all the same underneath” is we’re all sinners in need of a Savior; and the Savior isn’t “sustainable living.” [LT Note: Remember, the New Age says the era of the single savior is OVER!] The Savior is Jesus Christ, and He is the only way unto salvation (John 14:6).[7] And to become a child of God, Jesus said, “You must be born again” (John Ch. 3). [8] The tragic thing about this day at Saddleback is, Jesus was never mentioned … and I mean NEVER. There were a few passing references to God; Daniel Amen mentioned that our bodies were “a temple of the Holy Spirit and the brain is the inner sanctum” [Amen means that all humans are the temple of the Holy Spirit], but Jesus never made the cut – ”sustainable lifestyles” and “group living” did.

Following Dr. Hyman’s talk, my best friend arrived to observe the day with me, only to hear Dr. Amen mention in his presentation that he did a brain scan on one of his clients who had a habit of cheating on his wife. The brain scan showed that there were “holes in the pre-frontal cortex of his brain” which controls the impulses. In other words, this man wasn’t sinful, he was “mentally ill.” All he needed was to get on the “Change Your Brain, Change Your Body” program, and his personal struggles with sin were remedied. Once again, Jesus was removed from the equation. My friend and I were dumbfounded when we listened to the Saddleback crowd cheer. My best friend couldn’t contain it any longer and let out a, “You’ve got to be kidding me.” My thoughts exactly!

Dr. Hyman recommended Yoga and meditation to the crowd. Dr. Amen gave a diplomatic denunciation of Yoga (which is contradictory since he has recommended it himself), but about 5 sentences later mentioned a study done by a friend of his named Andy Newberg who did brain scans on Tibetan nuns and Franciscan priests while in “prayer and contemplation” and the study showed that “spiritual connection” is healthy. Dr. Amen has been an advocate of “Sa Ta Na Ma” meditation.[9]

If by chance any attendees of the Saddleback “Health and Fitness Seminar” read this blog post, I encourage you to educate yourself about what globalism truly is. You also need to research Agenda 21. As stated earlier, the purpose of Agenda 21 is to restructure society. Sounds conspiratorial, I know. But it isn’t a conspiracy; it’s a published document of the United Nations that’s in full swing. Anywhere you hear the terms, “Sustainable Development,” ”sustainable living,” “smart growth,” ”going green,” etc., rest assured you’ve just been exposed to the U.N.’s Agenda 21. [10]

It shouldn’t surprise us that Rick Warren would allow a seminar of this nature at Saddleback; after all, he himself has “GONE GREEN.” [11] He is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.[12] This illustrates the natural progression of one being unequally yoked with non-believers & buying into heresies such as “Kingdom Now,” “Dominionism,” or “Restoration Theology.” Where these heresies reign, as they do at Saddleback, you will find that the focus subtly shifts from salvation in Christ alone, through faith alone, to misguided efforts to restore mankind & the earth through “community” works, sustainable living, and social justice. How convenient that these just happen to be the vehicles which the United Nations is using to further it’s own agenda to restructure society & unite the world under its governing body of global elites.

TRUE TRUTH: “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.” 2 Timothy 4:3-4

(I found it to be slightly humorous that, on page 9 of the booklet which Saddleback passed out to attendees, the symptom of “itchy ears” was listed in the “Medical Symptom/Toxicity Questionnaire”…oh, the irony!) (source: Ponderings from Patmos)

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Endnotes:
1. Genesis 11:4 – “Then they said, ‘Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves and not be scattered over the face of the whole earth.’”

2. Genesis 3:4-5 – “You will not surely die,” the serpent said to the woman. “For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

3. Agenda 21 – http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21

4. Mark Hyman’s presentation at “Authors @ Google” titled, The UltraMind Solution: Healthy Body, Powerful Mind. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAZVpsd2Nao

5. Occult Invasion – The Subtle Seduction of the World and the Church, Dave Hunt, Harvest House Publishers 1998, pg. 61

6. Ephesians Ch. 2:1-5 – And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)

7. John 14:6 – “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”

8. John 3:3 – “Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

9. Dr. Amen recommends “Sa Ta Na Ma” meditation a form of Kirtin Kriya yoga. http://richardeward.com/kirtin-kriya-sa-ta-na-ma-meditation/

10. Agenda 21 – “The U.N. Plan for Your Sustainable Community. ” http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/la21_198.html

11. A Greener Spirit: Evangelicals Embrace “Creation Care”. http://environment.change.org/blog/view/a_greener_spirit_evangelicals_embrace_creation_care

12. Council on Foreign Relations Membership Roster. http://www.cfr.org/about/membership/roster.html?letter=W

For more information on Reiki and the New Age plan, read For Many Shall Come in My Name.

Heaven is so Real Deception by Choo Thomas

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Kudos to the author of the following article gotten here:

http://www.ltradio.org/articles/?admin=linkto&link=139&&quick=y

Emphasis and green is mine

We are only going to look at a few things in this book for now.

1 John 4:1 tells us, “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.”

If we are to take Choo Thomas’s word that this book is really written by Jesus, thru her, then we can then glue it to the back of our Holy Bible and make another book of our Holy Scriptures. Satan will appear as an angel of light and impersonate the real Christ Jesus to receive glory due to the real Christ Jesus

The Jesus Choo Thomas is referring to in this book is an imposter -Satan himself! Why did Jesus not have his Apostle John to write about heaven like this in the book of Revelation? Christians are now supposed to believe that God has raised Choo Thomas up as he did his own Apostle’s? I guess Jesus did not accomplish everything he needed to do with them! This is dangerous and leaves a Christian open to be swayed by any false prophesy and teaching just because they say it is from God!

Choo believes this encounter is from Jesus because the spirit that spoke to her said he was Jesus -I am not President Bush or anyone else because I say I am! Satan or any demon is not Christ Jesus just because they say they are. Satan would be glad to take the Glory of this even under the name of the real Jesus! How can Choo give such a detailed description of heaven and angels? Because Satan and his demons where there and they saw first hand, heaven and the angels.

Note: This still does not mean she actually went to visit heaven. A lot of things can bring delusions of all sort; Drugs, sleeplessness, self-induced trances, Kundalini, etc. Sometimes it is just an out right lie.

Choo is taken into a hypnotic trance-like state and this enables demonic influence to communicate to her mind through images of heaven and angels as they know them to really be -since they have been there before they were kicked out! Thats how! Satan is an angel of light because he knows how to imitate the real light!

One reason Satan is good at imitating the light, is because he is such a good mocker.

Satan is a master deceiver. I know it all sounds good and people today are itching for a sign and revelation from God. Because of this itching some will fall for the most incredible deceptions. Choo herself has fallen for this great deception. I know it sounds right because she points to Jesus. Does Satan care if people point to Jesus if it is actually him behind the mask. No! He doesn’t care. If anyone comes to Christ from her book -then they came to the wrong Christ. The Christ people should come to is the Christ of the Holy Bible -Not Choo Thomas’s revelation from a false spirit god! This is why we are warned to “try the spirits” -how do we “try the spirits”? We line up what the spirit is saying against God’s Word.

Does God’s Word give an indication that even on the day of Pentecost that people were jerking and miracle dancing in some sort of ritual? No it does not! God will not imitate Satanic rituals! But Satan will try to imitate God with adding his demonic rituals in with it. This gives it a good sugar coating to entice people to believe it is of God. We can no more listen to the revelation of Choo Thomas over Joseph Smith of the Mormons. The teaching of Joseph Smith sounds good on the surface – So does the revelation of Choo Thomas! Her talent, or Satan’s talent, for adding God’s Holy Word to her revelation is very enticing for many Christian believers awaiting a new revelation from God.

Choo says that since 1996 that every waking hour is spent with Jesus. She says that her husband has been so understanding or their marriage would not have made it -is this God’s intention according to His Word?

To take a married woman and separate her unto Himself! Show a scripture for that!

And while you would be looking for a scripture for that look up one that would allow her to overtake the platform of her church despite what the pastor would have to say about it!

Also, why did Jesus not tell her His real birthday date? Rather than telling her on Christmas eve that it was his birthday! Does not Jesus realize that Christmas eve is not his real birthday?

Why does Jesus not emphasize the resurrection day? The biggest day of the Bible!

Are aborted babies really stored naked, side by side, in a warehouse building awaiting their saved mothers to come to heaven and raise them?

This is about as hoky as it gets!

I know many will say, “who is he to come against a beautiful sister in Christ”. First I am not coming against a beautiful sister in Christ – only against the false doctrine of her book! Trying (testing) the spirits to see whether they are of God (1 John 4:1) shows a clear picture that her “hypnotic trance vision journey” is far from truth. This is not anything less than a Anti-Christ Satanic spirit passing himself off as Jesus to Choo Thomas and anyone else willing to be lead astray from the truth of God’s Word by this so called new revelation from an imposter Jesus. I may only be a voice crying out in the wilderness of cyber world – but so be it!

No friend, you are not the only voice. I thank God for you! May many see your words and be turned back to truth.

Amen and Amen!

Last Days: False Christs, Occult Invasion & Sexual Perversion

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Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, — 1 Timothy 4:1 –

“There are so many today in the New Age movement who are claiming to be the messiahs, claiming to be channeling the wisdom of the messiahs…”

“…the lies men will believe once they have rejected the truth.”

“One of the greatest deceptions occuring in our time, is happening in the name of Christianity, as people are embracing a form of Christianity based on extra-biblical experiences.”

“We see the rise of satanic worship.”

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Embraced by the Light of Deception

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Green emphasis mine – red, the Word of God

For the record, I have read Betty Eadie’s book. Years ago. Something about it didn’t sit right with me back then and still doesn’t. If after reading the following, you feel the need to defend this book, don’t. At least not here. The writer of the article has given us more than enough to see the deception in her book and I will not get off on a bunch of rabbit trails with those who choose not to love the truth.

By Russ Wise

The Popularity of Betty Eadie’s Book

A growing number of Christians are embracing the light of Betty Eadie, the author of Embraced by the Light. Ms. Eadie’s book, along with several other new-age bestsellers, are influencing the Christian church in a negative way.

The bestseller, Embraced by the Light, is one that needs to be dealt with. It has been on the New York Times Bestseller List for over a year now and has sold more than two million copies thus far.Betty Eadie is a woman on a mission and her mission is to introduce the “Jesus” she met in her near-death experience to as many people as she can. She has been on a variety of national television programs and hundreds of local programs. According to her publicist she has spoken in a significant number of churches, and Christians make up a large portion of those who purchase the book. That is scary.Ms. Eadie has become somewhat of a guru for many. When she was in Dallas in February, 1994, the Dallas Morning News carried a lead story expressing the adoration of her new-found followers. One woman said that Ms. Eadie gave her a kind of inner peace and that without it she would have lost her mind. Another woman said that she cried all the way through the book the first time she read it. A man said that the book validated a lot of things he had believed and that he now looks at things differently.According to the Dallas Morning News article the book’s greatest appeal “stems from the description of eternal life, a comforting notion for people who have survived a loved one or for those pondering their own fate.”The popularity of Betty Eadie and her book Embraced by the Light in Christians’ lives raises some important questions for us to ask ourselves. Why is her message so readily accepted by Christians? How has the church failed in its mission, thereby creating an atmosphere where such heresy could flourish?

Answer: The church has  failed because there is no fear of God or love for the truth — The Truth of God.

Ms. Eadie says that she was shown in the spirit world that we were with God in the beginning and that we helped him to create the earth. She tells us that Eve’s “initiative” made it possible for mankind to have children, that sin is not our true nature, and that we are inherently divine.She continues by saying that we are all God’s children and that we are here on earth to learn the lessons we need for our own spiritual evolution. Our key lesson is to remember our divinity and return to heaven. Eadie embraces the idea that all religions and faiths are equal in God’s sight and that they are essential in our development. Likewise, spirits from the other side will also help us learn the lessons of life and aid in our progress.Ms. Eadie says that death is a spiritual “rebirth” as we simply make a “transition” to another state of being. There will be no judgement day and we will judge ourselves regarding our spiritual evolution.

This is what God says:

And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment, so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation. — Hebrews 9:27,28 –

Mormonism and Magic

She also teaches that we choose the illnesses that we would suffer and that some would choose the illness that would end their lives.

This sounds too much like the modern day heresies being taught by Kenneth Copeland, the late Kenneth Hagin, etc.

She further teaches that hell is not forever and that because of “love,” in the end, all will be saved.

“And I say to you, My friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear Him who, after He has killed, has power to cast into hell; yes, I say to you, fear Him! JESUS — Luke 12:4,5 –

Before we can fully understand Ms. Eadie’s world view and theology it is important for us to recognize that she is a Mormon and has been exposed to new age paganism. She has, in fact, been a member in good standing of the Mormon Church for the past fifteen years or more.Betty Eadie’s background is a mixture of native American Indian spirituality, Catholicism, and Mormonism. Her mother was a full- blooded Sioux Indian and as a young child Betty attended a Catholic boarding school.This spiritual syncretism helps us recognize the source of her close encounter with “the Light.” As we take a closer look at her new-found belief system we are able to not only see Mormon ideas but beliefs that are found in the occult.On page 57 of her book Betty tells the reader, “within our universe are both positive and negative energies, and both types of energies are essential to creation and growth. These energies have intelligence–they do our will. They are willing servants.”You may remember “The Force” of Star Wars and its “light” and “dark” side. The Force was both “good” and “evil”. One simply chose which side of “The Force” one wanted to utilize for his evolutionary development. There was no “right” or “wrong” choice; it was a matter of personal preference.The Force is similar to “magic.” In the occult world magic has a “good” side and an “evil” side. It is also considered to have a “light” side and a “dark” side.Magic is an attempt by man to gain equality with God. To become a part of the creative process. God spoke the universe into existence by His word. The magician, sorcerer, or witch attempts to speak things into existence by words based on their occult knowledge.The Christian desires to obey the will of God, not to force God to do his bidding. This is the essential difference between occult practice, magic, and Christianity.

An example of this is the Charasmatic movement who believe “speak to your need.” Think about this: There is no need for God if all one has to do, is “speak to the need.” When do charasmatics actually pray or ask God for anything if they are so busy creating their reality? This is nothing but witchcraft in and of itself.

Another example of Ms. Eadie’s new age belief is the account of her being in a garden while she had her out-of-body experience (OBE). She saw a rose and was struck by its beauty and as she looked at it she felt that she had become “one” with it.

Yeah right. I remember having experiences like that under the influence of LSD. Once my guitar had become an extension of myself. This was not God. But a delusion, a lie, a result of my sin.

She states on page 81 of her book, “I felt God in the plant, in me, his love pouring into us. We were all one!”"At-one-ment” or the interconnectedness of all things is a primary tenet of new age thought and philosophy. Betty Eadie, through her OBE, experienced the greatest deception Lucifer plays on humanity– that we are a part of the divine, that we are indeed deity. The idea that we are divine beings opens our understanding that we have all that we need “within” us to progress toward our full potential as a god or goddess.Our “looking” or “going” within is an attempt to discover our inner allies and gain “deep” learning so we further evolve mentally and spiritually. These allies or inner teachers, helpers, or guides are available to all of us, according to the new age mystics.This inner teacher is also known as the “Higher Self” or the “True Self” and is in constant battle with our cognitive or conscious self.

These entities are demons.

The focus of knowledge is transferred from the objective and cognitive to the subjective and intuitive or experiential. It is my contention that the greatest danger Betty Eadie represents for the Christian is that Truth is based on or in experience rather than the Word of God.

Just like today’s followers of the charasmatic movements.

Betty Eadie’s View of Jesus

Ms. Eadie believes that the “Jesus” she met during her OBE was the “real” word of God and not a book that has been corrupted over the millennia. Perhaps some of the most disturbing aspects of her book is what is left out rather than the deception within.Betty Eadie never mentions the crucifixion or the atonement for sin. In her worldview they simply are not needed. According to her belief we are at-one with God. Likewise, she never mentions the cross of Christ; evidently her “Jesus” is too positive to mention something as negative as the cross or the need of redemption.There is no mention of evil or victory over sin. There is no resurrection. Ms. Eadie is almost evangelistic in her declaration that “all religions upon the earth are necessary because there are people who need what they teach. People in one religion may not have a complete understanding of the Lord’s gospel and never will have while in that religion.” (see Gal. 1:8 and 2 Cor. 11:13 along with Matt. 24:24)Eadie continues by saying “as an individual raises his level of understanding about God and his own eternal progress, he might feel disconnected with the teachings of his present church and seek a different philosophy or religion to fill that void. When this occurs he has reached another level of understanding and will long for further truth and knowledge.”She says, “Having received this knowledge, I knew that we have no right to criticize any church or religion in any way. They are all precious and important in his sight.”

This is a lie. There is only one way to the Father and that is through His Son, Jesus Christ. How could God say that all religions are valid? He can not, does not and will not. He would have to deny the truth. This truth alone makes Betty Eadie a liar.

 Another concern of Ms. Eadie’s is her unbiblical teaching regarding the person of Jesus. On page 44 of her book Ms. Eadie recounts her meeting the Jesus of her out-of-body-experience:

I understood that he was the Son of God, though he himself was also a God, and that he had chosen from before the creation of the world to be our Savior.

Ms. Eadie’s statement regarding the person of Jesus is legitimate with the exception of one word that causes us to think of how the Jehovah Witnesses translate John 1:1. The article “a” becomes very important when it precedes “God.” However, for Ms. Eadie the use of the article “a” indicates that she views Jesus as another distinct deity rather than the second person of a triune god–thereby exposing her Mormon understanding of the trinity. The Mormons believe in three separate beings who are each divine rather than three persons comprising one God as the Bible indicates.The Bible is explicit in its affirmation of the Trinity. Deuteronomy 6:4 is clear in its declaration of one God. Elsewhere in Scripture we see God the Father (Matthew 6:9), God the Son (John 1:1), and God the Holy Spirit (Acts 5:3-4) as three distinct Persons who are equal in every aspect of their being.In John 10:30 Jesus says that He is one with the Father, thereby leaving no doubt of their oneness regarding their essence and that they are not two separate beings or gods as Ms. Eadie would have us believe. Ms. Eadie refers to “the Spirit of God,” although she does not mention the Holy Spirit as the third Person of the Trinity by name. The Bible, likewise, is clear regarding the stature of the Holy Spirit. In John 14:26 the Holy Spirit is seen as the enabler in helping God’s people understand divine truth.Betty Eadie’s view of Jesus comes into focus once Biblical light is shed upon it. It becomes perfectly clear that she does not hold a trinitarian view of God.

Deception of New Age Religion

The unsettling message that Betty Eadie offers in her book is that we are not sinners needing redemption, but that we are spiritual beings who have lost our way. We have forgotten our divinity. Spiritual growth is a progressive process toward self-realization and at-one-ment.The new-age world view of Betty Eadie is evident:

  • All is One
  • All is God
  • Man is God
  • All is changing
  • Man is changing
  • All is relative
  • Self is the Judge
  • The gospel is unnecessary

Ms. Eadie sounds like Shirley MacLaine, the popular new age entertainer and author, when she says that her prior existence “had been purposely blocked from me by a `veil’ of forgetfulness at my birth.” Ms. MacLaine had previously made the same statement in her popular book Out on a Limb.

In other words, we were with our heavenly Father in the spirit world and eventually came to the point where we were spiritually dry and realized that the only way to get beyond our dryness was to jump start our spirituality. Thereby, we chose to leave our heavenly home and incarnate on this earth where we might further develop our spiritual essence and advance our possibilities in the spirit world.Ms. Eadie states that prior to our leaving our spiritual home and incarnating in this world we perfected a plan for growth before we took on this physical shell. She says on page 47 of her book that “the Father explained that coming to earth for a time would further our spiritual growth. Each spirit who was to come to earth assisted in planning the conditions on earth, including the laws of mortality which would govern us.”In the spirit world Ms. Eadie was told “that we had all desired to come here, that we had actually chosen many of our weaknesses and dificult situations in our lives so that we could grow.” She continues by saying, “to my surprise I saw that most of us had selected the illnesses we would suffer, and for some, the illness that would end our lives . . . we were very willing, even anxious, as spirits to accept all of our ailments, illnesses, and accidents here to help better ourselves spiritually.”According to Betty Eadie we are basically good. On page 49 of her book Ms. Eadie says “that sin is not our true nature. Spiritually, we are at various degrees of light–which is knowledge–and because of our divine spiritual nature we are filled with the desire to do good.” She continues by saying “that there is a vital, dynamic link between the spirit world and mortality, and that we need the spirits on the other side for our progression.”In the above statement Ms. Eadie is allowing her god’s eclectic world view show. The idea that man is basically “good” is commonly held in the field of humanistic psychology rather than in Christian Scripture. The Bible indicates that man is in need of redemption and forgiveness. Her belief that we, in the mortal world, are in need of the spirits from the other side to aid us in our spiritual progression is taken directly from her Mormon background. We find this teaching in the Doctrine and Covenants (128:15), one of the Standard Works of the Mormon Church.The Biblical indication is that in the last days many will be deceived. The gospel writer of Matthew seems to agree. Not only will unbelievers be deceived but also those who have trusted Jesus for their salvation may be equally deceived. The Scripture says, “For false christs and false prophets will arise and show great signs and wonders, so as to deceive, if possible, even the elect.” The problem that many have in our day is that they seek “signs” and “wonders” rather than Jesus. Experience has become their teacher rather than the Word. Our response is simply, Jesus–the only begotten Son of God. There is salvation in no other. Our hope is not in our experiences, but in a person.
 
Testingthe Bookby The Bible

Betty Eadie exposes more of her Mormon world view with her belief in a pre-mortal existence. When Ms. Eadie first speaks of “Jesus” in her book she said “I knew that I had known him from the beginning, from long before my earth life, because my spirit remembered him.” Another example of her “new found” belief in a pre-existence was when “Jesus” allowed her to recall her feelings when creation occurred. She says that “all people as spirits in the pre-mortal world took part in the creation of the earth.”Ms. Eadie offers another example. She relates an experience during her heavenly visitation where she “traveled to many other worlds- earths like our own but more glorious, and always filled with loving, intelligent people.” She continues by saying, “I knew that I had been to these places before.” She had an experience that she could not deny.Some have said that a man with an argument is always at the mercy of a man with an experience. A growing problem in our society is the willingness to accept one’s experience over the protestation of the facts. As Christians we need to be careful that we do not fall into this trap. Our responsibility is to consider the Word of God and allow it to validate the experience or not. We must be extremely careful not to allow our or anyone else’s experience to mold our belief system.Another example of Ms. Eadie’s pre-mortal experience was an encounter with those in the spirit world. She said, “I saw again the spirits who had not yet come to earth, and I saw some of them hovering over people in mortality. I saw one male spirit trying to get a mortal man and woman together on earth–his future parents.” (I had a brief moment of deja vu and thought of Marty McFly in Back to the Future).A growing number of Christians are accepting Ms. Eadie’s account of the after-life, and the church is allowing her beliefs to take root by their lack of biblical teaching. The Bible is very clear regarding the individual’s moment of existence (Psalm 139:13-16). Nowhere in Scripture does our Lord offer a possibility that we pre- existed with Him in the spirit world. The burden of proof is on the one with the experience and not the objective Word of God.What can we learn from Betty Eadie and her near-death experience? First and foremost is that near-death experiences tend to alter one’s world view. Raymond Moody in his book The Light Beyond offers evidence for such a concern. He states that those who experience a near-death episode

…emerge with an appreciation of religion that is different from the narrowly defined one established by most churches. They come to realize through this experience that religion is not a matter of one ‘right’ group versus several ‘wrong’ groups. People who undergo an NDE come out of it saying that religion concerns your ability to love–not doctrine and denominations. In short, they think that God is a much more magnanimous being than they previously thought, and that denominations don’t count.

This idea, that doctrine is of no importance but we should only be concerned about love, is parallel to the teachings found in the New Age world view. Ms. Eadie is in agreement with Dr. Moody’s statement that “love” is our ultimate goal and that religion is simply a vehicle to get us to the party. It makes little or no difference whether we get there in a Ford or a Chevrolet. As warm and cozy as this idea sounds, it does not take into account the words of our Lord in John 14:6: “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.” Jesus was very clear that He wasn’t offering one of many ways, but that He was The Way and The Truth. He was very confident that salvation was found in no other.

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