In light of Patricia King’s new “minty green angel” (just in time for Saint Patrick’s Day, I might add) we now have the International Banker angel to contend with. Following article gotten here: http://slaughteringthesheep.wordpress.com/2010/03/13/greater-glory-gathering-and-the-angel-named-international-banker/
Mt 16:4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed.
I want you to get this picture in your mind - you’re sitting in church and the pastor opens the Bible and begins expository teaching. He takes you verse by verse through the Scriptures and he actually teaches you the Word of God. It’s a nice picture, isn’t it? Do you want to see the exact opposite of that? Keep reading.
Bob Jones had an angelic encounter recently and said that the angel introduced himself as the “angel that was the International Banker.” I’m thinking this is the angel of finance with a new title, because Rick Joyner relates that instead of introducing himself as the angel of finance, he introduced himself as “International Banker.” Wow. Ya know, I’m highly irritated that the Bible failed to mention this specific angel to me. If it hadn’t been for Bob Jones, Todd Bentley, and Rick Joyner, I would have never even known this particular angel existed. The nerve!
In this video, Rick Joyner and Todd Bentley announce the Greater Glory Gathering, which is going to be held from April 18 to 21, 2010, at Heritage International Ministries. They stress that this is not a school and it’s not a conference, it’s a gathering! Featured speakers will be Bob Jones, Rick Joyner, Todd Bentley, Ryan Wyatt, and Jason Hooper, and with a lineup like that, it promises to be a real mystical experience!
Conferences, revival schools, and gatherings are nothing new with Joyner; they have them all the time. The marketing spin they put on each one of them grows more colorful and lively than the one before it. What’s interesting about this particular “gathering” is that Todd Bentley is saying it was reinforced, or rather inspired, by encounters he has been having recently. In one encounter, he was digging through some rubble when he found a manual. It was a manual about God’s greater glory. What a convenient vision to have right before a “greater glory” gathering, wouldn’t you say? He then compares it to when Josiah and Hilkiah dug the book of Moses out of the rubble of Solomon’s temple, which resulted in the greatest revival in the history of Israel.
(Insert the power of suggestion here…we will have revival…we will have revival…we will have revival. God told me (Bentley) in a vision that there would be revival, even gave me the how-to manual, so there’s gonna be a revival, folks! You just need to believe it and jump on board! It’s up to you! Come on! We can’t have revival without you!)
In another encounter, Bentley was visited by an angel with gemstones in its wings. This angel stood like a man, was six-feet-two-inches tall, and had wings like a cherubim. The angel said to Bentley, “I’ve come to speak about finance, and the release of finance and the wealth of nations.” What an important message! I mean, there’s nothing else the church needs to hear about more than money! It’s all according to who you know, and this would be a great contact to have if you’re interested in fronting a global revival! Revival requires money, and the gem-stone angel is here to make sure the blessing of finance is released… that is, to deceive you into releasing your money and sending it to Bentley.
So, immediately after this angelic visitation, he gets on the telephone with Bob Jones, and Jones said, “Didn’t I tell you the word I had about the international banker that visited me!?” Rick Joyner interjects, “Yeah, that was a name for an angel.” Bentley then relates that that was how the angel had introduced himself to Bob Jones – “The angel that was the international banker.” Joyner then informs us that this angel is over the treasuries of Heaven for the earth, therefore, there will be financial breakthroughs in the form of debt cancellation.
Here’s where it gets maddening. Joyner goes into a strange interpretation of Scripture where he says that when God showed Moses his back side, He was showing him His stripes on His back, and that’s where people’s financial debt was cancelled. Those stripes. Right there. On His back. Go ahead and max out your credit card and heap things up to satisfy your fleshly desires – God the Father has those stripes upon His back to cancel your financial debt. Now, Joyner does say that those stripes were taken to cancel all debt, but money debt is definitely one of them. This unscriptural interpretation smacks of Oneness Pentecostalism, it isn’t sound Biblical doctrine. God the Father doesn’t have stripes upon His back, those were taken by Jesus Christ, the Son of God who became flesh - not the Father!
Now, to be fair, Joyner did acknowledge that some people are in the financial shape they’re in because of foolish decisions. I concur! But then he and Bentley go on to say that the manifest presence is about more than signs or debt cancellation, it’s about the “glory.” The glory that’s coming. Bentley says that in the past they saw gold, angel feathers, and all kinds of signs such as gemstones and diamonds, which was evidence to them that God’s glory was being poured out. But in this Greater Glory Gathering, it’s God’s manifest presence they’re after – the person of God. Problem is, Jesus said no one comes to the Father except through Him. He is the door, and should they try to come up any other way, they are the same as a thief and a robber. (John 14:6)
So many people are looking for signs, but Jesus said no sign would be given except the sign of Jonah. As Jonah was three days and nights in the belly of the whale, so was Jesus three days and nights in the heart of the earth. (Matthew 12:40) They fail to remember that Jesus said that only a wicked and adulterous generation seeks a sign. But, those who hear the voice of God’s Son, who follow His words, who walk in His ways, who believe in Him…those are the ones who, like Abraham, believe God, and will have it imputed to them as righteousness. (Romans 4:3) What other sign more marvelous can God the Father give us than the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus, His Son? There is none. Not gemstones, not angel feathers, not diamonds. It isn’t those things which show God’s glory – God was glorified through His Son!
Those who neglect the Son of God and search beyond Jesus for further proof of God’s glory have completely missed the whole point. Paul, who truly visited the third Heaven didn’t tell tall tales of glory clouds and gem-encrusted angels, he said this: “And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God. For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and Him crucified.” (1 Corinthians 2:1-2)
Outside of that, there is nothing. May we ever keep our eyes and hearts upon Jesus!
The following comments taken from slaughteringthesheep blog are great examples of Bereans testing all things:
“Joyner then informs us that this angel is over the treasuries of Heaven for the earth. There will be financial breakthroughs in the form of debt cancellation.”
This debt retirement couldn’t come at a better time for MorningStar in view of its debt. — Ian –
Hey, is this “angel that was the International Banker” mint green ? Methinks he’s visited ol’ Patty King. — Denise –
The angel will be showing up at the gathering and his word will be in line with the word Todd gave when he did his $1,000 sham in Lakeland. I am willing to bet that the promise of wealth transfer will be pushed over and over during this gathering. You cancel Morningstar’s debt and this angel will see all your debt will be cancelled as well.
The more you give the greater your blessing will be. Your influnce with God will also be greater. Man, the suckers still believe this crap.
They deserve to be fleeced to their last penny. — Rick –
If the angel is in charge of the ” treasuries of heaven ” why doesn’t he finagle some way of bringing some of it with him ? And why doesn’t this financial angel teach seed faith to Rick Joyner so Rick doesn’t have to keep taking up collections from the poor people in his audience? That way, Rick can finally be a blessing and give away some money instead of sucking people dry. But then again, maybe these folk are getting what they deserve, just by showing up and listening to these clowns.
By the way, can anyone explain to me why we need treasuries in heaven, the streets are paved with gold for crying out loud. I always thought the real treasure in heaven would be Jesus Christ – oh yeah, they forgot about that !
You know they’ve been priming that pump for years by telling people that blessings come when they open their wallets and give generously. So, now with the appearance of this “angel” (demon), people will think that the outpouring will be commensurate with their giving and so these guys will just take the money (as they always do) and pad their accounts and then tell people how much blessing is coming from their giving and they should keep giving so that the annointing will increase.
I would just remind folks of Simon in Acts 8 who thought that he could buy the ability to bless people with the power of the Holy Spirit and he was directly rebuked and told that he was in the gall of bitterness and in the bond of iniquity. These guys are akin with the likes of Simon the Sorcerer. Perhaps they can get together with Christina Glenn and scream a little louder so that the banking angel will release more funds.
In His service,
After nearly 30 years in the financial services industry, I can tell you from experience that any “angel” name “international banker” is 100% a fallen angel/demon. 2sd2lol
These knuckleheads are bringing the New Age Aquarius eastern mysticism into what passes for the “church.” Alice Bailey and Barbara Marx Hubbard taught extensively about these Luciferian lies (as if they were truth), and we who follow Jesus as Lord, (and no ascended master jesus counterfeit) are the cancer they wish to cut out to save the body of new humans who will be “cleansed” and made into demon motels for the age to come. They all want their way for 2012 and we are holding things up, so we must be removed.
Tribulation, both small and great, are NOT the wrath of God, but the wrath of satan. Jesus said we would see tribulation even as such that has never been seen before or will ever happen again.
God has always delivered His own THROUGH floods, fire, lions etc…some to live another day, some to glory. How many people got on the ark after God closed the door? While the flood was a judgement from God, the Great Tribulation is from Satan….ah but the wrath of God is not for those of us who are in Christ Jesus, be of good cheer saints, He has overcome the world, and so will we who are in Christ Jesus,…martyr means witness, and there are many under the alter spoken of in Revelation.
When we lose our religion about Him based upon the traditions of men, and embrace Him as Lord, we begin to see clearly, and the seeming mysteries of Revelation become clear…but you must allow Him to tear everything not built by Him down, reducing you to Christ Jesus, so He can build on Himself as the Foundation. You can’t hang His Truth on a superstructure of traditions of men…He won’t allow it. Many are called, few are chosen, narrow is the path that leads to Eternal Life, and few there be that find it. The rest are ever learning but never able to come to the knowlege of Truth.
– Mickie –
Hey, if the great Jerry Fall well can’t pull it off, how will a hack like Joyner?
This kind of mularky isn’t just for the charismatic wolf, it is there in the baptist wolf as well. Watch this and be amazed/sickened.
So Bob, you had a visit with an angel..
Gal 1:8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
(Bob’s also part of the IHOP camp that promotes ‘the god within you’, that promotes Contemplative prayer, that promotes Catholic mystics, and other highly unusual and unbiblical teachings…) Bob, you need to understand that the gospel you are now promoting is one that is OTHER than the one that was preached to the church…
Bob, why was it you left IHOP? What have you done to correct the thing that made you leave? Where is the repentance/change in your behavior, Bob?
Because we can all laugh about the Banker angel and the stupidity of your messages, but in all seriousness, you have a serious problem, Bob.
…and what was that part about teachers having a stricter judgement, Bob?
– Annunk –
I can see it now: “angel International Banker is called before the Senate finance Comittee to explain WHY blessings have not been made as available to poor people as they are to the “RICH”.
I know, this isn’t a political blog, and Chrystal, I hope that you don’t mind my one little joke.
Angels don’t interest me as much as the One who sends them to accomplish His will.
Amongst us former Charismatics, who else rmembers “The Happy Hunters” the husband and wife team which went gaga over angels? They couldn’t butter their toast in the morning without some angel handing them the marmalade. (kidding. barely) — Doug –
Hmm…international banker. Not so inspiring a title considering the fallout and crash of our economy. I think I prefer “minister of finance” it has much more class. For those truly desperate for a breakthrough in debt, our government offers a legal and relatively quick solution – bankruptcy. It may not be the wild ride of “breakthrough” that Toddie and Bobo promise, but it’s a sure thing. You won’t need to chant or stand on your head or listen to sheeka boom ba, just see an attorney. And 6 months later – BAM – you’re outta debt! More miraculous than gold dust! — Mkayla –