Does repeating something over and over bring it to pass?

Just one more reason I do not go to church. Somehow everyone doing a cheap imitation of the Hokey Pokey is suppose to be a good thing? Sorry. I don’t accept this as worship. Which goes along with a dream I had last night. I dreamt I was in church with a lot of other people. Coming from the pulpit was one big BORING and stupid performance. No God, no Word, no Bible. No prayer. Just one big I wanna be a star show. It was so awful I felt like I would throw up. I stood up and said something along these lines: “This is the biggest bunch of horse malarky I have ever heard. This is deadness.”

The guy behind the pulpit said, “Well, you try putting together a video.”

I said along these lines: “God is nowhere in this. The Bible says the true worshippers would worship Him in Spirit and Truth. He is not here.”

With that I began to walk out as countless others began to walk out. End of dream.

I found the following video through a Christian network I subscribed to. Found it last night, which probably explains the dream I had being more impacted by my sub-conscious than a God thing.

I do not call this worship. I dare call it a form of idolatry. I dare say, Jesus is NOT being exalted, there is no truth to break yokes, as there is no real annointing. Just theatrics and manipulation of a bunch of little sheeple who do what they are told. Which is shake your hands and somehow wave away the yokes. Hogwash.

These young folk are being taught to sing and prophesy things to come to pass. Where is prayer? Prayer takes time and effort, it takes a willing and at times a broken heart. There is a price to pay for prayer. Not so for a cheap imitation of deliverance and freedom.

Actually, it is a form of worship. Worship of music. If you want to call it that. Music, that is.

Pretty sad when the world has much better music than the church. Anyone with any musical understanding at all, knows where I am coming from.

Another video I could not stomach to watch the entire contents.

New Age “Apostles” or Pagans?

It’s not my agenda to insult pagans with the following video. But, let’s keep it real. I am insulted that the church would use pagan tactics to manipulate and spread deception.

As much as I do not go along with Pagan beliefs, even pagans do not go this far with their rituals.

Sadly, this goes on in a lot of churches today. People want to call it worship. I call it theatrics. Christians will sit passively, soak up words, allowing themselves to be hypnotised, thinking this is the Word of God. If you are into this kind of thing, I challenge you, to sit back and take a good look at this and tell me WHY you believe it is of God. I believe it is a bunch of horse manure. We both can not be right now, can we?

Do not waste time telling me I am blasphmeming the Holy Spirit. If anyone is blasphmeming it is those who say they speak for God while being Satan’s ministers who come as an angel of light. Chuck Pierce is just one of many. Deceivers, witches and warlocks in disguise.

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Do I really need to explain on this one?

Everybody wants to be a star one way or the other.

Do I really need to explain why this is just wrong?

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APOSTATE LIE: Coming Supernatural Wealth Transfer

Video is below

Talk about taking scripture out of complete context! THIS, Bride of Christ is a fine example of these apostates setting you up NOW to start giving your finances to them before all hell breaks loose in the economy.

Benny Hinn teaching wealth transfer. This is what witchcraft in the church looks like. It is appalling!

“When God blesses you, He blesses you big. And the Bible says you don’t have to work for it.”

What an out right lie! BH’s lie gives people the impression that money is just going to come to them without any action on their part.

For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat.
— 2 Thessalonians 3:10 –

He is helping people to stumble in the faith if they end up not being able to feed their own family! 

But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever. — 1 Timothy 5:8 –

I am amazed how these deceivers ALWAYS use examples from the old testament instead of going to the new testament. The New Testament teaches us that Jesus had no place to lay His head. Did HE have all the riches this world has to offer? Certainly not.

BH uses Abraham, Issacc, Jacob, Joseph, Israel, and Soloman as examples of the rich. All taken from the old testament. He says there were six of them and now, “You are number 7.” Most of us know by now these heretics are using numerology with their use of numbers to back up their teachings as some kind of ordinance from God. God is nowhere in this.

“You are number seven, on your way to heaven.”

I do not claim to know who is going to heaven. But this is scarey, church. Here is a man telling a group of people they all are going to heaven. False assurance?

“God is going to give you the wealth of the sinner.”

Greed! He has just helped the church to covet by desiring what is someone else’s — sinner or not!

There is a chance to buy Benny hinn’s book on teaching you how to receive the wealth of the wicked. KACHING. Right into Hinn’s bank account!

He’s got his creepy MANIPULATING/WITCHCRAFT voice at 7:30 “You people listen to me well. If you don’t obey god today, you’re going to lose tomorrow.” That finger of his pointed as if he is some great truth speaker.”People who disobeyed in the old and new testaments were cut off.”

A fear tactic. Remember that.

At this point he tells a cutesie little story that brings some laughter. Now whether he did this to break down some resistance or not, God knows. Personally, I think it is every bit of a type of mind control and they know exactly how to work a crowd.

He goes on by giving examples of how he gave thousands of dollars when he was broke. Of course this was many years ago and no proof of any such thing. Even if there were proof, it does not mean God is requiring you to give your money to these deceitful workers of iniquity.

He explains he was so broke and god told him to give up his last 10 cents. This is preparing the people even more to empty their wallets as he shares this pathetic sob story!

“I’m gonna ask you to do what I did that day…I don’t know why god told me to give athousand dollars…something in my being told me to give a thousand.”

He continues by telling the people if they do what he will ask them, it will be the best thing that happens to them and their family.

Never mind if they will have food on the table, never mind if they have a house payment or bills to pay. Just fork it over to the man in the fancy suit!

“And as you pray, god is going to talk to you. Then I want you come down here and sow a thousand dollars in the Lord’s work…God has already placed a thousand dollars in your hands. You have it some place. I know you have other plans for it, but god has just changed your plans.”

“I’m standing here because of my obediance of so long ago.”

No, he is standing there because people have propped him up for decades and made him a billionaire!

This whole charade leads to the teaching of offerings. No surprise there. BH is preparing the people to empty their wallets in hopes of getting some of that wealth and the only one walking away from this with money in their pocket is Benny hinn! WAKE UP CHURCH!

Do not come here and try to defend this man. Your comment will not be posted. If you want to believe this stuff, you are free to do so. You deserve to have every cent taken from you in the days to come.

As for the sheep who are coming out from among them, continue to test all things. You do not have to be afraid of the teachings of Benny Hinn. Do not let him put a yoke on you.

A Visit to Rick Warren’s Health Seminar

Unless he repent, men like Rick Warren will actually help set up the anti-christ. He is already doing it! Rick Warren worshippers, do not come here trying to defend him. Time is short and I am not going to waste time trying to convince you of the truth. You have a duty, an obligation, a command to TEST ALL THINGS. I have pointed you to the truth. What you do with it, is your buisness.

Following article gotten here: http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/011/lighthousetrails/warren-seminar.htm

I first arrived to Saddleback’s campus only to be told that “all parking lots were full.” I drove across the street to see if there were any spots available in the business lots, and they were full too. I ended up parking in a housing tract and walked a mile or two back to Saddleback’s campus. As I arrived, I overheard a parking lot attendant say they estimated about 6,000 people had come to the seminar.
I was a little late, so I was grateful to my nephew who went online and began to relay what was being said in the opening comments, as I didn’t want to miss what was to be the foundation of the talks that day. I was a little taken aback when my nephew told me the first speaker, Dr. Amen, made reference to the Egyptian pyramids and how they were built upon an “idea,” and if man could build something like that all those thousands of years ago, what could he do today if he put his mind to it? I found that to be somewhat disturbing, as the pyramids, no matter how impressive they were, represent the ancient pagan religions which got their start in Babylon when Nimrod gathered men (the community) together to commit idolatry by building a tower to honor themselves as gods (Gen. Ch. 11).[1]

And yet here it was, the analogy that was chosen to illustrate this new “idea” Saddleback would launch their 52 week program with. No matter what Dr. Amen’s intent was, I believe the analogy was appropriate, and the subtle message is telling…”MAN CAN DO ANYTHING HE PUTS HIS MIND TO.” Sound familiar? (Read Gen. 3:4-5).[2]

As I began to head up the hill toward the main sanctuary, a Saddleback tram pulled up and the driver asked if I wanted a lift. I said I preferred to walk, but thanks. The driver yelled, “Let’s all give her a hand folks, she’s started the Daniel Plan already!” And the people on the tram cheered. Never mind the fact that I have been walking my entire life because I enjoy doing so, not because of some health and fitness campaign. I sensed I was entering a nightmare.

The main sanctuary was full, & it was standing room only. They told me the overflow areas were full too. So I found a spot on the patio outside the main sanctuary looking in. I had a good view and could see the stage perfectly. Their outdoor sound system made it so I could roam around, observe the audience, continue to listen to the guest speakers, and take notes.

To begin, I’d like to state that Saturday Jan. 15th, 2011 will go down in the history books as the day Saddleback Church was sold a bill of goods. The masses had come out in droves for answers to their weight loss difficulties & health problems, but unbeknownst to them, they were being given a prescription for restructuring society & population control.

The prescription goes by the name Agenda 21, a.k.a. “Sustainable Development” or “Smart Growth.” Agenda 21 is a published document put out by the United Nations with the intent to put limits on population and to restructure nation-states into a global society.[3] Rick Warren’s “new friends” had dubbed it, “The Daniel Plan – God’s Prescription For Your Health.” A more appropriate title would’ve been, “Sustainable Living – Destroying Inalienable Rights, One Community at a Time.”

By the time I settled into listening more intently, the second speaker, Mark Hyman, began. It didn’t take too long to figure out what the basis of his message was: We “need to heal with community” (he termed this “accompaniment”), “we’re here for the sake of each other,” this plan “is our way out,” this plan “saved me,” and in fact will “change the world.”

Saddleback was being told they were a “test community” to show the world how to live “healthy and sustainably.” When I heard these words, my heart sank. It was as I’d feared. I knew which buzzwords to listen for, and he was hitting them all. The audience was told they would be champions in health to show the world what “living sustainably” was all about, but Dr. Hyman is a leftist who is more than a champion in health, he’s a change agent for the global elite, as is Dr. Oz & Dr. Amen. Dr. Hyman is the founder and medical director of the Ultra Wellness Center, he advises Dr. Oz’s healthcore group, and he’s a nominee to President Obama’s advisory group on prevention, health promotion, and integrative and public health. [4] Hmmmmmm. I smell an agenda.

Dr. Hyman practices what’s known as “functional medicine,” which means he uses a “whole systems” approach to medicine; in other words, he practices medicine “wholistically,” This is also known as “Mind Body” medicine. At Saddleback’s seminar, “mind body” or “functional” medicine was presented as if it’s completely scientific. Any scientist worth his salt will tell you that yes, the body can be measured scientifically, but the mind falls into an entirely different category which can never be measured by science. As stated by Dave Hunt in his book Occult Invasion – The Subtle Seduction of the World and Church, “Physical science, by very definition, can make no judgments concerning a nonphysical realm” as is the mind & the soul.[5] In other words, the mind and the soul are scientifically immeasurable.

It’s the same with the religions of “Mind Science.” Calling a religion “Mind Science” or “Scientology,” when there’s nothing scientific about it, is the same as calling a cereal “Grapenuts” when it contains no grapes or nuts. But we live in an era when the masses have been sufficiently dumbed down, and all it takes to impress is clever packaging and branding. If “they” say it’s science, then dog-gone-it, it’s science! After all, “these doctors are on television.”

As I sat through all 3 presentations by Dr.’s Hyman, Amen, & Oz, what came to mind were the traveling salesmen of the 1800s. They talk fast, so fast that the message that’s really being given, goes right over people’s heads. They used tactics to tug at the heart strings such as videos of sick little girls who suddenly got well from being on “the program” and have been “set free” from relying on medications. Then they flooded the audience with “facts” and “statistics” to scare any grandmother, such as “a tsunami of disease is hitting us,” “life expectancy is going down,” “1 out of 2 people are diabetic or pre-diabetic,” “70% of all agricultural land is taken up by growing animals to feed all the people,” “the bigger your body gets, the more your brain shrinks,” etc.

I about fell off my chair when Dr. Hyman stated, “The key to the success of the “Daniel Plan” is “group living” … “individuals” will not succeed, our only hope lies in “community.” [LT Note:This is exactly what the emerging church is teaching.] And with that, it was announced that the “Saddleback community” would be an example of “sustainable living” and would set the course to “change this world” … and the crowd went wild! [LT Note: Remember, when we reported how Rick Warren talked glowingly about a critical mass needed to change our world?]

Dr. Hyman said that he is a Jew, Dr. Amen said he is a Christian, and Dr. Oz said he is a Muslim. And doesn’t that represent the demographic of “most of the population of the world”? But then he said, “we’re all the same underneath.” True to his salesman fashion, Dr. Hyman didn’t define his terms. What in the world does he mean “we’re all the same underneath”? That can mean a number of things. Since he was speaking to a religious crowd, I’d venture to say some of the folks present took that to mean we’re all children of God (Jews, Muslims, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, etc.), which is patently false according to the Bible. The Bible says there are only two groups, children of wrath and children of God. You’re either one or the other, a believer in Christ Jesus, or a non-believer. We aren’t “all the same underneath.” (Ephesians Ch. 2).[6]

The only way in which we’re “all the same underneath” is we’re all sinners in need of a Savior; and the Savior isn’t “sustainable living.” [LT Note: Remember, the New Age says the era of the single savior is OVER!] The Savior is Jesus Christ, and He is the only way unto salvation (John 14:6).[7] And to become a child of God, Jesus said, “You must be born again” (John Ch. 3). [8] The tragic thing about this day at Saddleback is, Jesus was never mentioned … and I mean NEVER. There were a few passing references to God; Daniel Amen mentioned that our bodies were “a temple of the Holy Spirit and the brain is the inner sanctum” [Amen means that all humans are the temple of the Holy Spirit], but Jesus never made the cut – ”sustainable lifestyles” and “group living” did.

Following Dr. Hyman’s talk, my best friend arrived to observe the day with me, only to hear Dr. Amen mention in his presentation that he did a brain scan on one of his clients who had a habit of cheating on his wife. The brain scan showed that there were “holes in the pre-frontal cortex of his brain” which controls the impulses. In other words, this man wasn’t sinful, he was “mentally ill.” All he needed was to get on the “Change Your Brain, Change Your Body” program, and his personal struggles with sin were remedied. Once again, Jesus was removed from the equation. My friend and I were dumbfounded when we listened to the Saddleback crowd cheer. My best friend couldn’t contain it any longer and let out a, “You’ve got to be kidding me.” My thoughts exactly!

Dr. Hyman recommended Yoga and meditation to the crowd. Dr. Amen gave a diplomatic denunciation of Yoga (which is contradictory since he has recommended it himself), but about 5 sentences later mentioned a study done by a friend of his named Andy Newberg who did brain scans on Tibetan nuns and Franciscan priests while in “prayer and contemplation” and the study showed that “spiritual connection” is healthy. Dr. Amen has been an advocate of “Sa Ta Na Ma” meditation.[9]

If by chance any attendees of the Saddleback “Health and Fitness Seminar” read this blog post, I encourage you to educate yourself about what globalism truly is. You also need to research Agenda 21. As stated earlier, the purpose of Agenda 21 is to restructure society. Sounds conspiratorial, I know. But it isn’t a conspiracy; it’s a published document of the United Nations that’s in full swing. Anywhere you hear the terms, “Sustainable Development,” ”sustainable living,” “smart growth,” ”going green,” etc., rest assured you’ve just been exposed to the U.N.’s Agenda 21. [10]

It shouldn’t surprise us that Rick Warren would allow a seminar of this nature at Saddleback; after all, he himself has “GONE GREEN.” [11] He is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.[12] This illustrates the natural progression of one being unequally yoked with non-believers & buying into heresies such as “Kingdom Now,” “Dominionism,” or “Restoration Theology.” Where these heresies reign, as they do at Saddleback, you will find that the focus subtly shifts from salvation in Christ alone, through faith alone, to misguided efforts to restore mankind & the earth through “community” works, sustainable living, and social justice. How convenient that these just happen to be the vehicles which the United Nations is using to further it’s own agenda to restructure society & unite the world under its governing body of global elites.

TRUE TRUTH: “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.” 2 Timothy 4:3-4

(I found it to be slightly humorous that, on page 9 of the booklet which Saddleback passed out to attendees, the symptom of “itchy ears” was listed in the “Medical Symptom/Toxicity Questionnaire”…oh, the irony!) (source: Ponderings from Patmos)

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Endnotes:
1. Genesis 11:4 – “Then they said, ‘Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves and not be scattered over the face of the whole earth.’”

2. Genesis 3:4-5 – “You will not surely die,” the serpent said to the woman. “For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

3. Agenda 21 – http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21

4. Mark Hyman’s presentation at “Authors @ Google” titled, The UltraMind Solution: Healthy Body, Powerful Mind. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAZVpsd2Nao

5. Occult Invasion – The Subtle Seduction of the World and the Church, Dave Hunt, Harvest House Publishers 1998, pg. 61

6. Ephesians Ch. 2:1-5 – And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)

7. John 14:6 – “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”

8. John 3:3 – “Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

9. Dr. Amen recommends “Sa Ta Na Ma” meditation a form of Kirtin Kriya yoga. http://richardeward.com/kirtin-kriya-sa-ta-na-ma-meditation/

10. Agenda 21 – “The U.N. Plan for Your Sustainable Community. ” http://www.crossroad.to/text/articles/la21_198.html

11. A Greener Spirit: Evangelicals Embrace “Creation Care”. http://environment.change.org/blog/view/a_greener_spirit_evangelicals_embrace_creation_care

12. Council on Foreign Relations Membership Roster. http://www.cfr.org/about/membership/roster.html?letter=W

For more information on Reiki and the New Age plan, read For Many Shall Come in My Name.

Unholy Laughter: Spirit Of Hypnosis In The Church

THIS is what true mocking of the Spirit of God looks like.

Sidebar: A pastor appears to go into some sort of hypnotic trance at an unholy laughter “revival” fest. No such precedent can be found in the scriptures to call these things “acts of God.”

The actual trance begins at 2:35 and lasts until he begins to swoon at 5:05. This is freaky and quite scarey. He remains frozen as the audience howls with laughter. I dare say it is a form of psychosis or a type of epileptic seizure. One of which I am familair with from working with blind children. One girl had seizures where she would literally freeze. This is not the Spirit of God upon this man. If this does not bring some kind of unsettling in your spirit, then you are truly void of any discernment.

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Kundalini Awakening Received through Toronto

The Toronto revival of the 90′s is long gone, thank God. But there has been another in the making; Tod Bentley and Circus. We must never let our guards down or think these people have changed their teachings. They have not. The only thing they change are more delusions and more heresies being added. What we see today with Tod Bentley has been birthed out of Toronto. They all are of the same breed – WOLVES and VIPERS.

http://www.velocity.net/~edju/test1.htm

By L. Thompson

Perhaps some thoughts shared by some one who has actually come away from the “Toronto” movement after being “lock, stock & barrell” into it would help others who are saying to themselves- “These people who are so negative about this have not experienced it first hand.” We live in Southern California and were part of the mainstream Vineyard church here – and also a smaller vineyard church closer to us.

My husband and I were desperate for God and at the end of everything in our lives when we came to the local vineyard. We soon heard about renewal meetings in Anehiem and began attending twice a week. My first impression was that these folks were a bit bizzare- but being as I said quite desperate for God to intervene in our lives we “stuck around.” We were at the “Let the Fire Fall” conference in 1994 when John Wimber had John Arnot come and preach at the conference. I witnessed and was part of all the manifestations that have been described. I must say that it had been so long since I had “felt” anything – emotional or otherwise toward the Lord that- even though the outward looked so weird- my hunger kept me returning.

The vineyard was holding renewal meetings twice a week led by one of their pastors who had been to Toronto personally. We had to drive an hour one way to attend but did so usually for both meetings. The pastor would teach for a short period and we would move chairs away for ministry time. After attending renewal meetings for a few a couple months I began to notice some things that ,the pastor was saying did not make sense to me. He began to tell us that he did not want to “encourage” outward manifestations. The jerking- roaring- etc. Yet when ministry time came the he would call forward the people who were on the outside “manifesting” the strongest. The ones that could hardly walk they were shaking so hard- those were the ones who were called to the front and ministered to in front of us all. This happened while I was there several times.

Well I can tell you first hand what this did to my family- and people that I knew. People began to seek the manifestations-. At first I was one of the ones that would usually fall and just weep- unstoppable tears – I believe the Lord did give me repentance as my life had been so miserable. The tears came and cleansing did happen. But as the pastor kept calling those forward who were jerking and shaking- and wanting “more” I began to seek- unwittingly what I believe now were “other gods”- the gods of experience for example. Not that God can’t give experiences that are wonderful but each has to be measured by His Word. There was very little of this at the renewal meetings. I will tell you I personally had people lay hands and pray for me from the Large ministry team of Anehiem- I was “open” to all of it- in the end my simple joy of feeling His cleansing presence became a hunger for the next big wow- I was shaken- baked- drunk- laughed till I could not move – roared- swooned…labored as in childbirth- etc. For me until the end of this (which I’ll explain later) these experiences were wonderful- I felt new- alive- but I was not being honest with myself at how these things were taking the place of my relationship with God. People were getting saved although not the throngs I kept hearing about in other places- there were healings. I must say at this point that during all the time I attended renewal meetings regularly for over a year- not once did a person challenge any manifestation or spirit according to the scripture. I personally received training to be on the large ministry team at our local vineyard (which used the teaching materials from the Anehiem Vineyard).

I was never advised to “test the spirits” according to scripture. Lets be honest here- when someone is frozen to the ground- the only breath coming is between loud cries – roars- what ever- that seems like it would be a good time to challenge the spirit of this… I never saw it done- or even heard of it done even as I began to minister to others as part of the team. To us some manifestations were obviously demonic and we used “discernment” to detect then pray for deliverance- these manifestations being nausea- vomiting- obvious torment etc. When I was myself was roaring- laughing- shaking or crying- no one ever challenged any of it. I was not in any kind of torment while experiencing these manifestations- it was great- I never saw anyone else appear to experience torment while experiencing these things. So I blundered on ignoring scripture. Then I attended a prophetic conference at Mott Auditorium, the Vineyard of Pasadena- I did notice that things were “cranked up” a bit more than usual but you have to remember I was used to all this and it was normal to me. During the ministry time one of the speakers (from Kansas City) began to “shoot arrows in the spirit” at us. He made the sound of an arrow shooting- whoosh- as he told us to receive what God’s angels had for us- he said “it’s ok to paint a target for where you want the arrow to hit you.” Myself having suffered from serious childhood hurts – began to place my hand on my heart and cry out to God. Suddenly I could hardly stand- but this was not the drunk kind of swoon I had experienced before- this was painful- I ached all over as if I was coming apart inside- I wanted to sit down and catch my breath but at that very moment the speaker called out “Take it” so I forced myself to stand upright. A feeling of anguish came over me that was awful and indescribable. After the prayer time was over I felt as if I could move and walk about but the thought came to me to go over in between the chairs and just lay down for a while. I questioned my own motives for this- as the conference was over and my family was waiting for me to go home. I went in between the chairs and layed down face down on the cold floor there. Soon- I was frozen to the floor-I could not have gotten up if I had wanted to- I could not speak- as people are accustomed to this as I also had been accustomed to this- outwardly it seemed like just another person “slain in the spirit” but inwardly I felt different- there was a great element of fear involved this time- I began to really want to get up but could not. After some time I was able to move and get up to go home. The next 10 days were so incredibly bizzare I have difficulty describing what happened. I will say that there were some very bizzare “impulses” being hurled at my spirit, as to the like I had never experienced. I began to wonder if someone had put speed into my drinking water during the conference as I could not sleep- this was not the night watches of the Lord during the sleeplessness – it was fearful and oppressive. Part of the reason I had embraced this movement was the seeming knowledge of the prophetic- now my gifting seemed to turn on me as I experienced terrifying feelings and apparitions. During this time the Lord brought a leader to us who was not into the Toronto movement but was a very prophetic person. I was desperate as even the leaders we had been involved with abandoned us-the vineyard pastor from the renewal meetings was just’ too busy’ and the local vineyard pastor was upset at us for spending too much time in Anehiem so basically had no time for us either. I mean my husband was begging for help- I am flipping out running all over the desert- and they have no time?

I will say God is faithful- the servant he sent us was a true shepherd- he told me I had a run in with Kundalini spiritism- THIS MAN HAD NOT EVEN HEARD OF THE TORONTO MOVEMENT- yes that is true- there are people – that God is using who do not even know about TORONTO- He told me -quote- “some one has opened up a “third eye “in you for sight into the demonic spirit realm”….unquote- this servant of God prayed the blood of Jesus over me and had some serious prayer and warfare in my behalf. I was delivered from those tormenting spirits by the blood of the Lord Jesus- but my healing and restoration has been a matter of walking with Him. I was so trapped in the instant fix mode from the renewal that I could never has seen the value in the daily walk with the Lord.

What frightens me about the Toronto movement is that these people as I was are sincerely deceived- the spiritual realm- is the realm of warfare. How can we approach this with out the covering of His word- His battle plan- how can we ignore what He has told us in scripture and glorify experience or ANYTHING above His name and what He has given us in Him? Now folks be honest- continually bringing people on stage or onto the alter – wildly manifesting- does distract from thinking about the Lord Jesus- it’s wow look at that- and wow feel this….feel, feel, feel.

I must testify to His protection in spite of being involved in this as there were several situations during those l0 days I could have easily died. (Doing over 90 mph on the freeways weaving in & out of traffic) is just one example. I also testify to the protection of much more than my body-He has redeemed my spirit from what was a plot to kill it also. I believe God did see our hearts and that we were sincere in our search for Him but we definitely fell into the wrong place- perhaps if anyone is reading this who is part of a church that is embracing the Toronto movement- I beg of you to go to the word-and do not ignore what He is saying to you through His word. I John says test the spirits to see if they are of God-you are not insulting God to do this- He says to do it.

It was a breath of fresh air for me to hear there were prophetic people who were not swallowing everything in the Toronto river- I am glad myself and my family were plucked out before drowning there- Trusting and Testing,

L. Thompson

Lessons on Hypnosis

Someone close to me recently had to get a shot in her foot. She knew it was going to be painful and understandably, she was not looking forward to it. As the doctor was preparing her for it, she was voicing her anxieties to him. The doctor was joking around with her and told her, “This isn’t going to hurt me a bit.” His joking had caught her off guard, in a sense, and he was able to give her the injection before she realized what had happened. She still felt the pain but her attention had been more drawn to the doctor’s behavior.

I’m glad she could laugh at her experience. I would not have been so friendly with the doctor, I don’t think.

It reminded me of when my father took me to get a shot when I was about six years old. He had taken a a book with us — The Three Bears — and told me if I looked at the book while getting the shot, I wouldn’t feel a thing. Uh huh, yeah right. Daddy lied.

I can still remember leaving the house with the little book in my hand, feeling some kind of power would be bestowed upon me when it came time for me to take the shot. 

Dad and I were called back to the room. He told me to look at the book. I did. But, the nurse told me to roll over. I complied. When she began to get the shot ready, I began to squirm.  I no longer felt like I was going to have the power I was looking forward to. It took my dad, two nurses and a doctor to hold me down to give me the darn thing.   

We left — Dad beet red and apologizing all over the place, and I with a sense I will never believe anything he ever tells me again. And I don’t think I got a lollypop that day!

Looking back, my father was just trying to get my mind off of what was going to take place. Although it be innocent enough, it was a type of mind control. But, I had not allowed it. I still saw the needle coming at me, still could smell the alcohol and to this day, the color white is enough to give me the shudders. My senses were not dumbed down and I knew what was coming. A whole truck load of books could not have numbed me to the inevitable. 

With all the apostacy going on within the church and society being dumbed down, is it any wonder it is done by methods of hypnosis? But we have a choice: we can either be led by these hypnotic methods or be led by God. All cults begin with mind control. Below are some of the tactics that are used to gain entrance in our minds. We are not to be ignorant. If you find yourself in any of these situations, you may want to flee. I know I will!

http://www.velocity.net/~edju/M.htm

MASS HYPNOSIS - to hypnotize he majority of people at a lecture without them realizing that their level of awareness is altered; occurs, unconciously or deliberately, if a leader is very impressive and charismatic; (a) deliberate techniques; (1) leader commands undivided attention to his or her speech; (2) rhythmic pacing and hand flinging movements are used; (3) ploy is preplanned to reach one’s basic emotional needs (personal acceptance, self-preservation, patriotism, service to others, and cultural acceptance) through fear, guilt, or excessive .love; (4) to overly repeat the pronoun you and continually point the finger at the audience; (b) all this narrows one’s concentration to the theme of the lecture which automatically relinquishes the conscious mind from its role and allows the uncritical subconscious mind to surface and accept the material as presented, and the leader makes her or his point; the more clever the leader is with the above tactics, the more hypnotized each member becomes, and the more unlikely to question the material of the lecture; (c) most ministers and lecturers capture their audience’s attention by using some of the above methods of delivery; this is a good way for the audience to grasp the meaning of the speech; it is absolutely necessary in a healing program as one is more receptive to healing energies when in an alpha (hypnotic) state of consciousness; e.g., slaying-in-the-spirit-meetings; 2. to hypnotize the majority of people at a gathering by playing loud, rhythmic music; music has been composed in a special key that will have a hypnotic effect on the audience; chanting special chants also put members in an alpha state of consciousness; (a) music is deliberately played played at meetings designed for brainwashing the audience; 3. dangers: one should know how to shield one’s self from this during the first encounter with the speaker so one can keep from being put into a hypnotic state and be able to make a clear-cut decision regarding the speaker’s intelligence, integrity and intent; (this all is a form of brainwashing but do not confuse it with destructive-brainwashing). (Inconcl.) [cf. MASS ELEMENTAL, MASS KARMA, BRAINWASHING, SUGGESTION, DESTRUCTIVE-BRAINWASHING CULT].

“(a)” above with its 4 points is very, very typical Rodney Howard Browne! H e has actually told his audience to, “Look at me!” Rhythmic pacing is absolutely a Browne classic.

http://www.velocity.net/~edju/H.htm

HYPNOTIC ECSTASY – to use rhythmic dancing, chanting, loud music, or singing to induce an ALTERED STATE OF CONSCIOUSNESS leaving the individual feeling elated and on an emotional high; the rhythmic beat and prolonged span of movement subdues the conscious mind and brings the subject to an alfa state in which he or she may perceive visions have other psychic experiences; done in religious ceremonies or traditional gatherings. [cf. WHIRLING DERVISHES, TRIBAL DANCING, CHARISMATIC].

More strong similaritites to “revival” meetings.
HYPNOTIC TOUCH – to reach a relaxed state of consciousness with only a touch of the hypnotist’s hand, after being conditioned in many hypnotic sessions to respond to this. [cf. COOPERATIVE SUGGESTION, PULSING, REEDUCATION].

The touch – typical during “revival” meetings.

Music to prepare you for receiving the lie

Music reminded me of my younger days of smoking pot and getting high. What is most disturbing are all the middle age christians who put up with this dung and call it the “annointing.” I’ve come to the conclusion most were either sheltered and never experienced the things of the world in any kind of extint to know this is demonic and sensual or they did and they loved it so much they still practice it, daring to call it the Holy Spirit! It is not!

Streetfisher:

This video is for the mature, not for those who get offended easily. I had my way with the video and decided add a few creative touches. This is from a Todd Bentley “revival” money grabbing event. No, I’m not pouring salt into his wounds. His adultery, thieving, coveting, and idolatry laden life will unfold even more so than I could ever do. There are many others to fill his shoes and even make them bigger. I only want to show the how to manual to work up an audience to a frenzy only to bilk money and make them believe a lie. Read ll Timothy, it’s true. This type of music is mantra like, repeating phrases over and over until satans spirit draws them into whatever the speaker has to say. This took about an hour or more before Todd and his buddies came to the mike to take over the show.

Holy Ghost hokie pokie?

The following at Rick Joyner church is so ridiculous, not to say an open mockery of what true healing is suppose to be about. Before anyone attacks me trying to tell me “God can do anything He wants however He wants” type of thing, let me say, I KNOW God can do whatever He wants. BUT He will NEVER go against His character or His nature. In short, this manipulation, this witchcraft draws away from the Cross and centers on MUSIC. Thus, if it focuses on music, then who must be behind it drawing attention to himself? Lucifer, perhaps? SHOW me in the Word where it says to behave like this in order to get a miracle.

Back pain, knee pain all healed. And then there is the “stick your head in” because God ” wants to heal memories.” This is such garbage!

They give credit to any healing to the hokie pokie! Until the end a young girl gives credit to the Lord. BUT, if this was not of God, then who is she ignorantly worshipping? Just another and different jesus created in the image of a few men on stage.

“Alztimers is not scriptural.” Perhaps not. But neither is what this church is practicing. What if there was someone there with the disease? They just had condemnation heaped upon them. Do they expect to recieve any comapssion from this bunch? I wouldn’t.   

By the time these people get done shaking their heads all in one accord, I wonder what kind of nerve damage will be done?

Why did he mention Altztimers, anyway? Was it for the sake of all the suppossedly SEASONED Christians in the room who should know better? What better way to bring about group think than to get everyone doing the same thing at the same time. Just another reason I stay home on Sunday mornings! 

How to Become a Sheeple

Notice how peer pressure is hard to stand up to. What if just one person stood up and said, “NO!” What if dozens, hundreds, thousands stood in one accord and said, “NO!”

YouDeserveToKnow:

Evils of Psychotropic Drugs

Concerning Babylon in the end times:

Revelation 18:23: The light of a lamp shall not shine in you anymore, and the voice of bridegroom and bride shall not be heard in you anymore. For your merchants were the great men of the earth, for by your sorcery all the nations were deceived.

Note: Sorcery = pharmakia in the Greek. So what does it mean? The drug buisness.

AfterAmericaNZ:

Community Organizers PRAY TO President Elect Obama!

RedeemedHippie:[There is such an ANTI-CHRIST on this nation and upon the decieved! America deserves God's judgements! You want Obama to be your savior? Go ahead and worship him. But don't expect me to bow the knee. Obama one day himself WILL bow his knee and with his tongue confess to the living God that Jesus is Lord of Lords and King of Kings. So will you.]

Community organizers ‘pray’ to president
‘Hear our cry. Hear our cry. Deliver us’

A newly publicized video shows leaders of a Chicago-based community organizing group called the Gamaliel Foundation held a rally shortly after President Obama’s election and “prayed” to him, seeking his intervention in their difficulties.

“Hear our Cry Obama. Deliver us Obama,” the organizers chanted as a single leader recited the organization’s perceived problems, based on the philosophies of Saul Alinsky, the radical father of community organizing.

The video explains the event took place at a leadership conference just a few weeks after Obama’s election in November.

The “leaders” enter a room chanting, “Everybody in, nobody out,” apparently referring to health care.

Then the chanter leads: “We are here for the healing of the nation,” to which the crowd responds, “Yes.”

“With the prophet Jeremiah we cry out, ‘Is there no balm in Gilead?’” continues the chanter. “Is there no physician here. Why then has the health of thy poor people not been restored?”

The crowd responds: “Hear our cry Obama.”

The chanter references the “prophet Martin Luther King Jr.,” to which the crowd responds, “Here our cry Obama.”

The chanter then intones: “From health care systems and industries that place profit over people,” and the people respond, “Deliver us Obama.”

The chanter then references “lobbying efforts” and “freed and fear,” to which the crowd responds, “Deliver us Obama.”

Officials with the Gamaliel Foundation did not return a message left by WND requesting a comment.

But according to the organization’s website, its type of community organizing began in Chicago in 1938.

“Saul Alinsky created the ‘Back of the Yards Community Council,’” the site says. “The organization operated in the shadow of Chicago’s stock yards. The community was beset with poverty, political corruption, gangs, disease, deteriorating housing and inadequate schools; but most of all it was beset with a sense of powerlessness. The organization successfully engaged people to change the conditions of the community.”

The foundation says it was set up in 1968 to support “an African American organization fighting to protect homeowners on Chicago’s Westside who had been discriminated against by banks and saving and loan institutions.”

It was relaunched in 1986 “as an organizing institute.”

WND previously reported when an artist who planned to unveil a portrait of Obama in a Christ-like pose with a crown of thorns upon his brow canceled the event, due to “overwhelming public outrage.”

Others, such as Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, also have been clear in their nearly religious adoration of Obama. As WND reported, Farrakhan declared last year that when Obama talks, “the Messiah is absolutely speaking.”

Addressing a large crowd behind a podium with a Nation of Islam Saviour’s Day 2008 sign, Farrakhan proclaimed, “You are the instruments that God is going to use to bring about universal change, and that is why Barack has captured the youth. And he has involved young people in a political process that they didn’t care anything about. That’s a sign. When the Messiah speaks, the youth will hear, and the Messiah is absolutely speaking.”

Farrakhan pointed out that the man Nation of Islam followers refer to as “the Savior,” Fard Muhammad, had a black father and a white mother, just as Obama did.

“A black man with a white mother became a savior to us,” he said. “A black man with a white mother could turn out to be one who can lift America from her fall.”

WND also previously reported a website called “Is Barack Obama the Messiah?” capturing the wave of euphoria that followed the Democratic senator’s remarkable rise.

The site wass topped by an Obama quote strategically ripped from a Jan. 7 speech at Dartmouth College just before the New Hampshire Primary in which he told students, “… a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany, and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote” for Obama.

MP 3 Experiment (Part 6)

This is how cults are formed.

I’m sure taking part in something like this could be quite “fun” and “innocent.”  Appears harmless enough, right? It’s far from harmless. What it is doing is conditioning a large mass of people to all do the very same thing at the same time. Creating a bond, a sense of camredrerie that is meant to take away any sense of  indivuality.

Music is a powerful force. It can be used for good or evil. When it is used to manipulate, it is evil. True, all the people had a choice. But suppose at some point you had no choice but to take part in some kind of electronically induced event? Could you, would you be strong enough NOT to go along or at the very least not be a sheeple and led like everyone else around you?

Does the book of Daniel come to anyone’s mind?

“So at that time, when all the people heard the sound of the horn, flute, harp, and lyre, in symphony with all kinds of music, all the people, nations, and languages fell down and worshiped the gold image which King Nebuchadnezzar had set up.” Daniel 3:7