Last Days: False Christs, Occult Invasion & Sexual Perversion

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Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, — 1 Timothy 4:1 —

“There are so many today in the New Age movement who are claiming to be the messiahs, claiming to be channeling the wisdom of the messiahs…”

“…the lies men will believe once they have rejected the truth.”

“One of the greatest deceptions occuring in our time, is happening in the name of Christianity, as people are embracing a form of Christianity based on extra-biblical experiences.”

“We see the rise of satanic worship.”

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JIM JONES: CHRISTIAN OR COMMUNIST?

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A lot of people want to believe that Obama is a Christian. Below is just an example of the christianity he and socialists liberals believe in. It is one of big government, power and complete control over it’s followers.  

Am I comparing Obama with Jim Jones? Yep. I compare anyone who calls themselves a christian whose desire is to control using deception and manipulation, to a cult leader.

For too many years, liberal media have refused to call Jim Jones what he was; a liberal communist devil.

For those of you who are waiting for government to give you your utopia, be warned.

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People all over the world are horrified and puzzled by the Jonestown, Guyana atrocity. Questions are being asked: Who was the Rev. Jim Jones? What kind of religion did he teach? Why did he order the murder and suicide of over 900 of his followers? The answers provided by most of our media during the week following the news of the murder of Congressman Leo Ryan and four others in his group at the Kaituma airstrip have been confused, inaccurate and misleading. Our media have concealed, misrepresented, or downplayed the key element in the philosophy of Jim Jones. He was a long-time dedicated Marxist communist who admired totalitarian communist dictatorships such as the Soviet Union and Cuba so much that he built one of his own in Guyana. It was tiny, with fewer than 1,000 inhabitants, but it had many striking resemblances to the dictatorships it was modeled after. The inhabitants were not free to leave Jonestown. Those who tried to escape were severely punished. Family members were kept in Jonestown as hostages to enable the dictator to exert control over those who were on the outside. The inhabitants were cut off from free communication with the outside world. The news they got was filtered through the dictator. They were subjected to the constant blare of exhortations and instructions by loudspeaker, one of the techniques of the Chinese communists. They were forced to attend lengthy meetings, listening to the political harrangues of Jones, after having worked ten to twelve hours in the fields. This is another technique of the Chinese communists. They were trained in what to say to visitors and were as adept as the Chinese, and Soviets in pulling on a good show and concealing the harsh reality. They were not permitted to own any substantial personal property, making them totally dependent on the dictator for their subsistence and survival. They were in mortal fear of the dictator’s armed guards and “hit squads,” which they believed would track them down and murder them if they should leave. They were punished if they complained about food or living conditions, and they were afraid to express dissatisfaction even privately. There was no religious observance in the community, apart from the obeisance to the all-powerful dictator, Jones. The workers were poorly fed, poorly housed and overworked, while the dictator lived in luxury. The settlement could not deliver the standard of living promised to the inhabitants, and it relied heavily on external contributions.

Lenin Reincarnated

The evidence that Jim Jones was a Marxist communist does not derive solely from the fact that he established a communist settlement in the Marxist state of Guyana. Jones made no bones about the fact that he was a Marxist. His wife, Marceline, in an interview given to the New York Times in 1977, said that when Jones was 18 years old, his idol was Mao Tse-tung. She said his goal was social change through Marxism. The Chicago Tribune on November 22, quoted a former follower of Jones, Mrs. Wanda Johnson, as saying: “He told us on many occasions he was the reincarnation of Lenin. He told us this time he would be successful in installing a socialist state in America.” She also said that on several occasions Jones spoke of killing then President Nixon or kidnapping the children of any public figure if he felt it would bring about a socialist form of government in the United States.

The Tribune was the only paper of several that we examined that made any mention of this important revelation by Mrs. Johnson. The Washington Post and The New York Times on the previous day did mention the reincarnation-of-Lenin claim, using a soft version, and giving it no prominence. Both of these papers ignored the charge that Jones was willing to kill the president and kidnap children of public figures to bring about socialism. However, The Times did say on November 21 that Mrs. Johnson had revealed that Jones’ inner circle had signed statements saying that they were willing to kill their enemies, including government officials and all former members.

Both of these papers described the suicide drills that Jones put his followers through. The Post’s account included this paragraph: “According to former cult member Tim Stoen, Jones frequently put his congregation through tests. ‘He would pass around a brown liquid,’ Stoen said in a West Coast television interview telecast yesterday (November 20) and tell everyone to drink it. After they drank it, he would tell them they would die in about an hour. Meanwhile, he would ask them to stand up one by one and tell the group why they were proud and honored to die for socialism’.” (Washington Post, 11/21/78, p. A 15) The Times gave a different version of Stoen’s statement, which was not as strong, but it was in the lead paragraph of a page-one story. It said: “He has mass suicide drills, where he tells all the people, hundreds of people, to drink a certain drink, and he says, ‘That’s fatal. You’re all going to die in 45 minutes. I want to see how you feel about dying for socialism’.” Jonestown was described as “an experiment in socialism where money, power, and elitism had been eliminated.” In her 1977 interview with The New York Times, Mrs. Marceline Jones described her husband’s aim as “a Marxist social group,” and she said that was what he was building in Guyana. Despite all the evidence that Jones was a Marxist and admirer of the Soviet Union and Castro’s Cuba, reporters not only avoided calling him a communist, but also went out of their way to qualify his socialism with adjectives such as “utopian,” “quasi-religious,” and “agrarian.” We could find not a single article in the mass media that probed into Jones’ Marxist beliefs and connections. All the remarks we have cited above were only passing references in articles devoted to other subjects. Articles were written about his religious background and activities, which, as we shall see, were phoney and were simply a means to his political ends. The tragedy spawned articles on unrelated cults, on the psychology of mass suicide, on Jones’ sex life, on political figures who were connected with Jones or had written letters commending him. But there were no articles on the ideology which was his main inspiration, communism.

The Unmentionables

It is not clear why editors should conceal the fact that Jones’ newspaper, The People’s Forum, was full of praise for communist regimes. Why should it have been a “no-no” to mention that in 1977, the Rev. Jones went to Cuba specifically to meet with Huey Newton, the leader of the far left Black Panthers? The People’s Forum of March 1977, reported that Jones was ecstatic about conditions in Cuba. He reported that the standard of living was “fantastic.” Jones told his followers that the Cuban people were enthusiastic about the way Castro was running things. The people had total freedom, he said. The Washington Post had these quotes. It never reported them. The media quoted Jones’ personal physician and strong supporter, Dr. Carlton Goodlett, without mentioning his long record of involvement in communist causes, including membership on the presidium of the World Peace Council, a Kremlin front. Some, but by no means all, papers did identify Jones’ two lawyers, Charles Garry and Mark Lane as left-wing radicals. The New York Times reported on November 21 that Garry once took the Fifth Amendment and refused to say if he was ever a member of the Communist Party. It said that Garry had described himself as a radical and that he had had among his clients the leaders of the Black Panthers. The Times noted that Lane was also a radical and that he is a leading proponent of the theory that there was a right-wing conspiracy behind President Kennedy’s assassination. Having been told nothing about Jones’ fondness for the Soviet Union and Cuba, many people were probably puzzled by a UPI dispatch that was published in some papers on November 25. It told of a discussion that preceded the suicides at Jonestown. According to one of the survivors, one woman spoke up saying that suicide was not the only option, that they could go to the Soviet Union or Cuba. She was shouted down. This was followed by an even greater surprise the following day. Three survivors said that Jones’ mistress had ordered them to deliver a suitcase containing $500,000 and a letter to the Soviet embassy in Georgetown, Guyana, after the suicides. They said they turned it over to Guyarian authorities. It was also revealed that Jones himself had talked of emigrating to the Soviet Union, telling his followers that it was the promised land. He had discussed with a Soviet diplomat the possibility of moving his followers en masse to the U.S.S.R.

Jones is Jettisoned

Before he was exposed before all the world as a thief, sadist, satyr, dictator and mass murderer, Jim Jones was one of the darlings of the left. Guyana released a list of 38 prominent Americans who had allegedly written endorsements for Jim Jones. This list included first lady Rosalynn Carter, Vice President Mondale, HEW Secretary Joseph Califano, Mervyn Dymally, lieutenant governor of California, five members of the U.S. Senate, eleven members of the House of Representatives, the mayor of San Francisco and one former mayor of that city, and the mayor of Gary, Indiana. Some on the list say they can’t remember writing the endorsements, and the letters have not been produced except for a handwritten “Dear Jim” note to Jones from Mrs. Carter. It is possible that some of the endorsements were forged by Jones himself. But there can be no denying that Jones vas very well connected politically, with his friends ranging from Communist Party leader Angela Davis to Rosalynn Carter, who met Jones during the 1976 presidential campaign. A benefit for Jonestown featuring black comedian Dick Gregory, California state assemblyman Willie Brown, Mark Lane and Charles Garry was to have been held in San Francisco on December 2. The theme was “A Struggle Against Oppression.” Needless to say, the dinner was cancelled. The politicians and the ideologues of the left quickly went to work to disassociate themselves from Jones. In the case of Stalin, there is no way to obscure the fact that the mass murderer was a communist. But most people bad never heard of Rev. Jim Jones, and, with the cooperation of the media, it was possible for attention to be diverted away from his dedication to communism.

The Phoney Preacher

This was made easier by the fact that Jones himself had for years been masquerading as a Christian and a man of God. He was an ordained minister of the Disciples of Christ denomination, which has around 1.3 million members. But he had been exposed as a religious faker by Rev. Lester Kinsolving in eight articles written for the San Francisco Examiner in 1972. (The Examiner ran only four of them, capitulating to pressure from Jones and his followers.) Kinsolving exposed the fact that Jones claimed to have literally resurrected more than 40 people, that his service featured the beating of children and forced public confessions of non-existent sins, fake faith healings, and the regular use of a Marxist song book. Mrs. Jim Jones told The New York Times in 1977 that her husband had decided when he was 21 years old that the way to achieve his Marxist goals was to mobilize people through religion. “Jim used religion to try to get some people out of the opiate of religion,” she said, adding that he had once slammed a Bible on the table and said, “I’ve got to destroy this paper idol!” (New York Times, 11/26/78, p. 20.) The Times informs us that Jones “was openly contemptuous of religion among his associates.” (New York Times, 11/21/78, p. A 16). But he used religion to entice new recruits and to deceive naive outsiders. After the victims were hooked, he used sex, blackmail, intimidation and psychological dependence to manipulate them. At Jonestown, where there were no outsiders to be deceived, there were no religious services or discussions of religion. (Washington Post, 11/25/78, p. A 3.) Jones had so corrupted people who were once good Christians that they would commit adulterous or homosexual acts with him or others on his command. They would even commit murder at his command, even the murder of their own children, as we now know. Religion was nothing but a cover for Jones’ communist ideology, but most reporters, like a pack of greyhounds, went chasing after the fake rabbit. CBS News takes the prize for this most asinine performance on November 22:

Walter Cronkite: At the end, cult leader Jim Jones was described as a drug-crazed, paranoid, power-hungry fascist, but what of this man whose ultimate command led his flock to mass suicide. Betsy Aaron reports. Betsy Aaron: It was called the People’s Temple, but it was really Rev. Jim Jones’ temple. Jim Jones was the reason people came, looking for love and for God. Jim Jones: Now as we reedirate. God is love. Love is a healing remedy. Let us believe, let us believe. Aaron: A kind of intense warmth emanated from this man. His message was traditional and positive. It was the gospel of Jesus. Jones: I love you. The people love you, and most importantly, Christ loves you. Aaron: He gave hope to the poor. He gave help to the infirm. There were doubters who questioned his cures, but to his congregation the power of God was present in Jim Jones.

The program went on to show one of Jones’ fake faith healings, the curing of a supposedly lame woman. No question was raised about the authenticity of the cure, although it is known that these cures were staged by Jones and his cohorts. This irresponsible reporting gave rise to reactions such as the one expressed in a letter in The Washington Post on November 26, which said: “In Guyana, organized religion once again has dropped its mask of benignity and revealed its ugliness.” It also led columnist Max Lerner to write in The New York Post of November 26: “But Jones’ followers were simple people, eager for a belief that would link them to a purer, more primitive Christian faith… They were a community of the faithful, a republic of the innocent.” A note from one of these “innocents” found on Jones’ body said: “I fear that without you the world may not make it to communism.” The ideology of Jonestown was communism, not Christianity, but the media have obscured rather than explained that fact.

Jones as a Fascist

While the media scrupulously avoided calling Jones a communist, which he was, there was a rush to label him a fascist, which he was not. Walter Cronkite mentioned that he had been described as “a power-hungry fascist.” Mort Sahl, an erstwhile nightclub comedian who presides over a radio talk show in Washington, D.C., came out with this beauty on November 24: “The exercise in Guyana was a fascist exercise, no matter what the label on the can. Socialists don’t do that.” We have not as yet been able to ascertain whether Mr. Sahl applies the fascist label to such states as the Soviet Union, Cuba, Red China, Vietnam and Cambodia, or whether he is simply unaware of the close resemblance of Jonestown to those societies. Charles Krause, the Washington Post reporter who accompanied the Ryan party to Jonestown, seems to share Sahl’s view that “socialists don’t do that.” In an article published on November 22, he tells of Jones’ son, Steven, being asked (presumably by Krause) “if Jonestown had not been an experiment in fascism–with its armed guard and other means of preventing people from leaving–rather than an experiment in socialism.” Steven Jones reflected the same point of view, replying, “My father was the fascist. Jonestown was and still could be beautiful.” On November 22, NBC News aired a half-hour special television report on Jonestown. It never once mentioned socialism, Marxism or communism, even though the title was, “Jonestown, November 1978: How Could It Happen?” At the very beginning, narrator Edwin Newman said: “James Warren Jones, better known as the Rev. Jim Jones, to some, he was a powerful spiritual leader, a good man. At various times he said he was the reincarnation of Christ and Lenin.” That was as close as NBC got to suggesting that Jones may have been a man of the left. Without identifying Carlton Goodlett as a supporter of many communist causes and a member of the presidium of the Soviet-sponsored World Peace Council, NBC put him on the program to tell of how Jones helped the poor and downtrodden. He said that he told the members of the black religious community that there was a message to be learned “from the type of Christianity this man is speaking.” Having neglected to tell its viewers that Jones’ group was a communist group in action, NBC put on a Dr. Frederick Hacker, who said, “I believe these sects and cults are really mini-fascist organizations in action. They use terroristic means of intimidation in order to force their members to adopt a certain philosophy, a certain way of life, and a certain thinking.” Some writers were a little more subtle in their efforts to work the transfer of the negative association to something other than communism. Max Lerner, in addition to falsely portraying Jones’ followers as simple Christians, evoked the Hitler image: “Jim Jones mastered the art of conditioning his followers to obedience. He did it with a devilish ingenuity, as Hitler did it with millions, as Manson did it with his own little cult.” Robert Geline of the Time-Life News Service, in an article in The Washington Star of November 26, said this: “Paul (a member of the Jonestown commune) remembers that Jones used to preach on the evils of Nazi Germany and show films of the concentration camps on the settlement’s sophisticated closed-circuit TV system. Incredibly, while this ‘teaching was going on, the communers would salute Jones at the beginning of each mass meeting with an upraised right arm ex- tended, fist clenched. They did everything but shout, ‘Sieg Heil’.” Mr. Geline surely knows that the upraised clenched fist is the communist salute, not the Nazi. This clumsy effort at transfer fails, at least with those readers who know what the clenched fist salute signifies. But as with the transfer of the negative reaction to religion or other religious groups, the transfer from communism to fascism met with some success. The Washington Post on November 26 ran two letters to the editor drawing parallels between Jones’ followers and the Nazis. No letters were published which even mentioned that the group was Socialist, Marxist or communist.

Why the Carnage?

On November 24, CBS News aired a half-hour special, “The Horror of Jonestown,” in which the question “why” was repeatedly asked with no satisfactory answer being supplied. It was similar to the NBC production in that it never brought up Jones’ Marxism. Nor did it challenge the sincerity of his religious professions. Like NBC, CBS News looked to psychologists to provide answers, rather than to experts in totalitarian societies. Not having asked the right questions, it is not surprising that the networks and the rest of the media have not come up with any satisfactory answers. An important question that no one has asked is whether or not the Jonestown commune was succeeding. All the propaganda out of Jonestown said that everything was going great, but the evidence of the survivors does not support that. The people worked 10 to 12 hours a day on a meager subsistence diet. Some have said that the dogs ate better than the people. Meat was served only when outside visitors came. Housing was deplorable, with 14 people, including married couples, crowded into a room 12 x 20 feet. They had zero privacy. Jones deliberately tried to destablize families, encouraging husbands and wives to live separately and promoting adulterous relationships. This was no Eden. Without coercion it would crumble. Jonestown was a failure and no one knew it better than Jones. He had too big an ego to accept defeat, and the mass suicide offered a way out. If everyone died, Jonestown would be forever shrouded in mystery, with people asking why it happened and never being quite satisfied with the answer. Its darkest secrets would remain hidden. Why did the followers go along? Some thought as Jones did. Those who differed obviously saw no hope of saving themselves by resisting. With the guards training their guns on them, they were no doubt right.

Part 2: What Tod Bentley has in common with Jim Jones

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Following article gotten here:

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In addition to the fact that the Voice of Healing Revival provided a theatrical means for Jim Jones to build his following in the People’s Temple, it also produced two very dangerous heretical movements which are infiltrating Christianity to this day. These two movements are the Latter Rain Movement and the Word of Faith Movement. Bentley, like Jim Jones has quite obviously been influenced by the theatrical show of the movement- thus taking it to an entirely new level. He has also been influenced by both movements as clearly seen when looking into his preaching!

The Word of Faith Movement gained its popularity through the ministry of Oral Roberts- who had his ministry launched to success through the Voice of Healing Movement in the 1940’s. The basic heretical teaching of the movement is that faith is a force which is put into motion by our words. God himself is bound by the force of our words. For example, if I were to say I am a millionaire- God would be bound by the my words to make me a millionaire.

While most churches that would have to be termed Word of Faith do not claim such, their teachings reflect it. One thing the Word of Faith Movement has done effectively is have a statement of faith consistent with church history on the essentials so that they can make it look like they are within the realm of Orthodox Christianity. From an examination of the teachings taught from the actual pulpit- it is apparent that such a statement of faith is nothing more than a means of window-dressing. 2 Peter 2:1 we are warned that there will be false prophets among us that will secretly introduce destructive heresies. Whereas most cults will tell you straight up what they believe in a statement of faith, the Word of Faith Movement sugarcoats it by giving it to you in bits and pieces. Most of the controversial and heretical statements are spoken from the pulpit. Statements like the following: “Satan conquered Jesus on the cross.” “Jesus had to pay a ransom to Satan in order to purchase our atonement.” “We are little gods.” “The Trinity is composed of nine persons.” Word of Faith teachers include teleevangelists like Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, Kenneth Hagin (whose movement Bentley is a part of), Robert Tilton, TD Jakes, Joel Osteen, Morrus Cerillo, Creflo Dollar, Paul and Jan Crouch, Jesse Duplantis, Eddie Long, Richard and Oral Roberts, Marilyn Hickey, and David Yonggi Cho among many others too numerous to name. Most of them can be seen on TBN or the Inspiration Network.

While TBN and INSP showcase many Word of Faith teachers, GodTV highlights teachers of the Latter Rain Movement like Rodney Howard-Browne, Patricia King, Rick Joyner, Mike Bickle, Bob Jones etc. Much like the Word of Faith Movement, you will very rarely find a church that actually claims to be Latter Rain. Most churches like Morningstar Ministries in Rock Hill, S.C. have a statement of faith as a means of window-dressing but is contradicted or expanded upon if you take the time to listen to the actual preaching and teaching.

The Latter Rain Movement is not much different than other cult that has existed throughout history. Its teachers claim that the church has been in an apostate state for years and that they are called to restore the church to perfect truth by means of their prophecies and revelations in order to pave the way for the return of Christ who will come once the church is perfected. Though the teaching appears new, like most heresies it actually has its origins in the first few centuries of the church when a heretical teacher named Montanus proclaimed himself as the prophet sent for the End to restore the church to all truth.

The primary heretical teachings of the Latter Rain Movement are the tangible anointing, the Restoration of the Tabernacle of David, and the Manifest Sons of God doctrine. The idea that the anointing is tangible is the driving force behind the success of revivals like the Pensacola Outpouring, the Toronto Blessing, and currently the Florida Healing Outpouring. That is why people feel that they have to go to these places in order to receive a special touch from God. In truth I John 2:20 tells us that the anointing of the Holy Spirit abides withus from the beginning of our salvation and therefore is not something that can be touched or transferred.

The Restoration of the Tabernacle of David teaches that there is a perfect form of worship which will lead us into perfection. In places like Morningstar, Mike Bickle’s International House of Prayer, and the Florida Healing revival- this form of worship is used with much repetition of the choruses. In actuality, it is more like a chant than anything else- thus imitating the worship of Eastern/New Age Religions. That is not such a surprise these days since we see someone like Bentley claiming New Age practices under the banner of the Christian faith. The New Age invasion of Christianity has long been attempted but never has it been so successful as with Bentley. In the same way that the Socialist message in America was attempted long before Jim Jones, but was never used to gain such a huge following in the way that he did before he led 918 people to drink koolaid laced with cyanide in the greatest mass cult suicide in history.

Finally, the Latter Rain Movement teaches that instead of Christ returning in glory- he is actually waiting for the church to become perfect so that he can literally incarnate his body in the form of the corporate church. This is the manifest Sons of God doctrine. None of these teachings come out directly in a statement of faith but there is clear evidence of them in the reading of the leaders’ books and bulletins. In The Final Quest, Rick Joyner for instance states that the whole Christian community is about to be consumed by a bloody Civil War. He uses such a statement to validate that there will be a new way of worship and ministry to replace the old. While methods change throughout history, God’s word must remain as supreme authority. In the teachings and practices of the Latter Rain Movement- it clearly has not. As an example to show how Joyner often departs from his window-dressed statement of faith there are a couple of quotes he has made in which he says that Jesus was not a man, but rather a spirit. Such a teaching was the basis of the cult of Gnosticism from which the writings of Nag Hammadi (including the Gospel of Thomas emerged).

Recently in defense of Bentley’s frequent experiences with angels, Rick Joyner posted a Q & A bulletin in which he stated “The Bible talks about angels far more than anyone. Having encounters with angels is more normal than not having them. Some people I think are concerned because they are not having encounters themselves. Biblically the lack of encounters with angels should be more of a concern than having encounters with them.” In other words according to Joyner, if you are not having encounters with angels- there must be something spiritually wrong with you. I am currently looking into the teachings of Gnosticism as I think that idea is consistent with the teachings of Gnosticism. I will verify as soon as I have more information.

Both of the above movements are a very dangerous shift away from historical Christianity. Looking at them now, I get a good chuckle. I am reminded of a time when I myself had to come out of some of the darkness I have written about here. It is very dangerous. This ideology threatens Christianity’s foundation in the same way that Communism/Socialism did 50 years ago. Now a leader like Todd Bentley who holds to the beliefs of these two movements has gained popularity and notoriety with many followers who would die for his cause. In much the same way that many followers were willing to die for the cause of Jim Jones. That is why we must beware and we must warn everyone about this dark and deadly deception.

Part 1: What Tod Bentley has in common with Jim Jones

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Both Jim Jones and Todd Bentley were influenced by the Latter Rain Movement which sprung forth from the Voice of Healing revival that took place in the 1940’s. The leaders of this Voice of Healing revival were William Branham A.A. Allen, Jack Coe, Oral Roberts. There were other leaders like O.L. Jaggers who as mentioned before laid hands upon and pronounced over Jim Jones a very special prophetic ministry. However, the four listed above are the most prominent of the movement.

In Branham (whose mantle and angel Bentley claims), we find very dangerous doctrines like a denial of the Trinity, the teaching that Eve had sex with the serpent and from that union Cain was conceived, further taught that God gave man 3 books (Zodiac, pyramid, and Bible), believed that he was Elijah returned, also the latter day angel to the church of Laoidecea, and prophesied that by 1977 the rapture would take place. Branham was notorious for his ability to discern the details of people’s lives. He would call out these details as they came up on stage and he prayed for them. We know that years later Jim Jones had creative ways of learning info about people before services so that he could use the same tactics. I’m not sure if the same was true of Branham. We have seen in recent history in teleevangelist Peter Popoff exposed for having a mic in his ear to assist with his “words of knowledge.” After Branham’s death in a car accident in 1965, his followers waited by his gravesite for one week convinced that he would rise from the dead. However, it never happened. Yet, today there is a cult built around William Branham called the Branhamites who believe that “He was the greatest prophet that ever lived.”

While Branham was known for words of knowledge, Jack Coe was known for picking people up out of wheelchairs to try to convince them they were healed. If they fell, he would say that it was because they did not have enough faith. Coe warned there was a coming a day that anyone who went to see a physician would have to take the mark of the beast. However, when he himself came down deathly sick- he would take the mark of the beast and consult a doctor. He died of bolbar polio at 38 years old. When he died, O.L. Jaggers (who would later lay hands on Jim Jones) tried to convince his wife Juanita that he could raise Jack from the dead. Juanita declined to accept Jaggers’ offer. Jaggers offered this because he claimed that God had revealed to him the formula for how to attain physical immortality in this world.

A.A. Allen was known as “God’s man of faith and healing power.” Allen’s healing services looked more like a sideshow. He was most known for his “ability” to build the faith of the crowd in order to see someone healed. I watched this personally on the God’s Generals video series compiled by Roberts Liardon. Allen taught that God had given him the ability to turn $1 bills into $20 bills. He was of one the first ministers to promise financial blessing to those who gave to his ministry. In 1955, Allen was arrested for drunk driving in Tennessee. After the arrest, he was stripped of his credentials with the Assemblies of God (AoG). After being stripped of his credentials, Allen would play the role of martyr claiming that he was knocked unconscious and framed by men who poured alcohol down his throat. Many followers bought Allen’s alibi, and his ministry continued. However he died in 1969 with cirrhosis of the liver, and was found to be drinking yet again on the night that he died as he had a high level of blood alcohol content.

I have yet to watch a video on Jaco Coe. However, I have seen the videos on William Branham and A.A. Allen. Allen’s video especially appears to be more of a theatrical sideshow than anything else. I am convinced that that is what he was was nothing than a theatrical sideshow. The video I watched looked too staged for me to believe that it was real. Branham on video appeared humble, but he himself claimed some outrageous stories like a tree talking to him to confirm his calling. I’m not saying that that is impossible, but we must test things in light of scripture. We know that Branham taught dangerous doctrines and therefore we must call into question the claims of his supernatural enccounters. If he did indeed have supernatural encounters, the bad fruit of false doctrine which spread from his ministry must make us question the source of those encounters.

I’m not disputing that some people did get healed in the meetings of the above men. However, healing does not validate a ministry as being from God. Jesus verifies that in Matthew 7:22-23 when he says “There are many who will say to me on that day ‘Lord, Lord did we not drive out demons in your name and in your name perform many miracles’ and I will say to them ‘Away from me, you evildoers, I never knew you.’

The theatrics seen in the Voice of Healing Revival Movement impressed a young 24 year old pastor, Jim Jones, who later used the same theatrics in order to build his following at the People’s Temple which as I have mentioned eventually led to the death of 918 people in the greatest mass cult suicide in history. Years later, we see Todd Bentley using the same theatrics and taking them even further than we could have ever imagined. I am hoping the day never comes that he says, “God told me we must all drink koolaid laced with cyanide if we want revival to break out.” But given the extent to which he has already gone with his violent ministry claims, it is sadly not that unlikely that he would indeed go that far- and people would still believe him.

The Voice of Healing Movement is also where Oral Roberts got his start in ministry in the 1940’s. I do not have much information on his involvement other than the fact that it did launch him to success in ministry. Oral Roberts is a prosperity preacher and one of the main figures in the Word of Faith Movement which sprung forth out of the Voice of Healing Movement. Roberts is notorious for his claim in 1987 that he needed to raise $8 million in three months are God was going to bring an end to his life. I remember watching that as an 8 year old little boy.

As noted, the Word of Faith Movement sprung forth from the Voice of Healing Movement. Most of the preachers on TBN are a part of that movement. The Word of Faith Movement did not seem to miss a beat even in the midst of the controversy of the Voice of Healing leaders. It has dominated our television screens for years. On the other hand, the Latter Rain Movement which also was a product of the Voice of Healing Movement all but vanished for a couple of decades before being revived in the 1980’s.

In my next post, I will detail in specific the dangerous doctrines of both the Latter Rain Movement and the Word of Faith Movement as I trace their history from the 1940’s to the present. I will also provide a list of ministers currently on your tv screen that hold to the teachings of these movements.

Jim Jones Death Tape (Part 2)

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I’m sorry to inconveince the reader but you will have to go to the bottom of the page to see part one. I’ve not yet learned how to put these things in order.

Most of the transcript follows:

Jones: I’ve got people’s lives in my hands and I certainly don’t want your life in my hands. I’m gonna tell you Christine without me, life has no meaning.

(Great shouts and applause)

RedeemedHippie>>>[With his first sentence he KNEW he had them. He KNEW he had their lives in his hands. The next sentence–what arrogance! What pride! What delusions! And the people went along with him. People want to say over the years this was “religion.” Well, yes, it was–in a way. Anytime anyone sets themselves up as a messiah or savior, and when people worship them, it DOES become a religion. But it is far from Christianity.

Lucifer was speaking through Jim Jones. Lucifer was cast out of heaven because of his pride, because of trying to make himself greater than he was. It was the very same spirit in Jim Jones on that awful day. It is one of anti-christ. The people applauded his lies. How sad. How very sad. They had believed Jone’s lies for so long they could not even know the truth. God says in his Word that when we do not have a love for the truth He will send a delusion. It is part of judgment. These people could not see truth because they had no love for truth.]

Jones: I’m the best thing, you’ll ever have.

RedeemedHippie>>>[Once again such arrogance and pride. Jones was a liar. The best thing for any of those people would have been if they had been able to come to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ and get out the heck out of there.

He plays on any loyalty, sub-consciously reminding them what all he did for them. They were the ones who had to give their all to him; friends, family, their complete trust and loyalty, their children, homes, jobs, money– everything!  Jones sacrificed nothing of himself all those years he was building his kingdom!]   

Jones: I’m standing with you the people. They’re part of me…I never detached myself from any of your troubles. I’ve always taken your troubles right on my shoulders. And I’m not gonna change that now. It’s too late. I’ve been running too long. I’m not gonna change now.

(Applause)

RedeemedHippie>>>[He really is saying nothing that any other cult leader has never said. He says it with passion and plays on their emotions. Causing them to unite even more to him. He manipulates them in believing it is all about his loyalty to them, but it is really about their loyalty to them.] 

Jones: What I’m talking about now is a dispensation of judgment. This is a revolutionary suicide council. I’m not talking self destruction. We have no other road.]

Redeemedhippie>>>[He is a liar. It was self destruction. Change the meaning to words and you can get anyone to believe anything. He also is taking away more hope.]

Jones: I’ll take your call and we will put it to the Russians and I can tell you now the answer because I am a prophet. Call the Russians and see if they’ll take us.

RedeemedHippie>>>[His arrogance once again is not only appauling, but wickedly deceitful. A true christian would have been able to see he was no prophet.]

Christine Miller: I’m not afraid to die.

Jones: No, I don’t think you are. I don’t think you are.

RedeemedHippie>>>[Was this the man Jones speaking or was it Satan? Either way, Jones knew she was upsetting his plans by her even questioning his greatness. He had to appeal to any pride or loyalty to him she may have had.]

Christine: But I …look at the babies and I think they deserve to live.

RedeemedHippie>>>[One lone brave courageous soul out of the whole bunch! And not one soul listened to her. Unbelievable!]

Jones: I agree. But once much more, they deserve peace.

(Applause)

RedeemedHippie>>>[He manages to eliminate the truth she spoke by sounding so caring for the babies. And the people applauded him, completely forgetting Christine Miller’s words.]

Christine: We all came her for peace.

Jones: Have we had it?

(Some shouts of “No.”

Christine: No

Jones: I tried to give it to you, I laid down my life practically. I practically died every day to give you peace and you’re still not having any peace and you look better than what I’ve seen you in a long while but it’s still not the kind of peace I wanted to give you. A person’s a fool to continue to stay when you’re losing.

Redeemedhippie>>>[Once again, it is all about him. He is their messiah, their savior and oh he tried so hard. Notice how he tells her she looks good. BUT it is still not good enough. Not in his eyes. This is another form of manipulation as it may cause her to maybe even question her own judgement. Then he more or less calls her a fool! Which immediately causes her to lose any credibility among her peers. This too is manipulation.]

(Talk about the plane)

Christine: When you, when we destroy ourselves, we’re defeated.

Redeemedhippie>>>[Was this a slip of the tongue here? Was she getting ready to say when you destroy us? Only God knows.] 

Jones: Did you see I live to fight no more forever?

Christine: Yes, I saw it.

Jones: Did you not have some sense of pride and victory in that man that he would not subject himself to the will and whim of people who tell they’re gonna come in and whenever they please, push into our house, come when they please, take who they want to, talk who they want to. Is that living? That’s not living to me.

(Shouts of agreement)

Redeemedhippie>>>[He uses the movie as an example, as the movie was something they all had in common. He continues to instill fear and take away all hope.]

Jones: That’s not freedom. That’s not the kind of freedom I sought.

Christine: But I think when they made their mistake is when they stopped to rest. If they had gone on they would have made it. But they stopped to rest.

(A man steps forward and speaks to Christine)

Man: Sister, it’s over. We’ve made that day. We made a beautiful day. And let’s make it a beautiful day.

(Shouts of “yes!” and applause)

Jones: We win when we go down then they have no one else to hate…There’s nobody else to hate…I’m speaking here, not as an administrator, I’m speaking as a prophet today. I wouldn’t step in this seat and talk so serious if I didn’t know what I was talking about…But I can not separate myself from the pain of my people. You can’t either, Christine if you stop and think about it. You can’t separate yourself. We’ve walked too long together.]

Redeemedhippie>>>[By setting himself up as a prophet, he can say anything he wants and make people believe it is the truth. He pretends he has such love for the people by saying he can not seperate himself from them. He sets her up for the same thing by saying she can not seperate herself either. (If she does, she no longer will appear loyal to him and the others.)

Christine: I know that but I still think as an individual I have a right to…

Redeemdhippie>>>[This woman is thinking for herself now and she is in the fight of her life. In socialism/communism that is not allowed. IF there were others who remotely thought like her, they should have spoken up. But they did not. Their worship of Jones was too great. They still cared about what he thought about them!]

Jones: You do and I’m listening.

Redeemedhippie>>>[Yes, he was listening but he was not hearing her. Besides, he knew someone would come to his defense. Which is exactly what happened.]

Chrisitne: …to what I think, what I feel. And I think we all have the right to our own destiny as individuals.

Jones: Right.

Christine: And I think I have the right to choose mine and everybody else has the right to choose theirs.

Jones: Umhum. Umhum…I’m not criticizing…what’s that?

(Woman speaks against Christine)

Christine: I still think I have a right to my own opinion.

RedeemedHippie>>>[Anytime where you have a dictator, it is NOT allowed to have a different opinion!]

(Crowd is angry)

Jones: I’m not taking it from you. I’m not taking it from you.

RedeemedHippie>>>[Liar! He knew exactly what was going to happen. Did he tell her she could leave? No!

What follows next is completely mind-blowing; to think anyone would think this way about another human being. ]

Man: Christine, you’re only standing here because he is here in the first place. So I don’t know what you’re talking about, having your individual rights. Your life has been extended to the day that you‘re standing there, because of him.

(Shouts of adulation)

RedeemedHippie>>>[Now I DARE anyone to call me this was christianity at work. It was not!]

Jones: She has as much right to speak as anyone else…you will regret this very day if you don’t die. You’ll regret it even if you don’t die. You’ll regret it.

Redeemdhippie>>>[He pretends he is giving her freedom. Only to go on and instill more fear and intimidation.]

Christine: (inaudible)

Jones: I saved them, I saved them but I made my example. I made my concession. I made my manifestation and the world was ready, not ready for me.

RedeemedHippie>>>[Luicfer speaking right through him! It was anti-christ spirit.]

Jones: Paul said, as a man born out of due season. I’ve been born out of due season just as like all we are. And the best testimony we can make is to leave this god d— world!

(Applause)

RedeemedHippie>>>[And if that wasn’t Satan, tell me what it was?! To think he gets applause! To think every last one of them would not or could not speak out. All but Christine Miller, that is.]

The crowd becomes angry with Christine. She is verbally being abused and challenged by a woman. Christine asks for permission to talk. And then…

Something very odd here at 6:28: This voice is either warped because of the age of the tape or it sounds like a devil, “It’s not proper to tell your leader what to do.”

(The crowd agrees)

Jones: I’m listening to you. You asked me to make a call to Russia. I’m making a call to Russia. What MORE do you suggest?

RedeemedHippie>>>[No evidence of him making a call to Russia.]

(The crowd is still put out with Christine)

Angry Woman: We won’t do any f—— good in Russia. God d— it!

Jones: Lay down your burdens. I’m gonna lay down my burdens. Down by the riverside. So we lay them down here in Guyana. What’s the difference?

(Applause)

Jones: No man didn’t take our life, right now….But when they start parachuting out of the air, they’ll start shooting some of our innocent babies…I don’t want to see this, Christine. Cause they gotta shoot me to get through to some of these people. I’m not letting them take you, John. Are you gonna let them take you John?

(Shouts of no)

RedeemedHippie>>>[ Jones is pretending allegiance to these people.]

Christine asks increduously: You mean you want to see John die? (Jones’ small son)

Jones: What’s that?

Christine: You mean you want to see John, the little one…”

(Crowd becomes more enraged at Christine)

Jones: I want to…peace, peace, peace, peace, peace. (Trying to calm the crowd)

A woman asks Christine: Are you saying that he thinks more of him than other children here? That’s what you’re saying.

Jones: Do you think I would put Johns life above others?………….

Christine: He’s young.

Jones: I know but he’s no different than any of these children here. He’s just one of my children. I don’t prefer one above another…I can’t do that. I can’t separate myself from your actions. If you done something wrong I would stand with you. If they wanted to come and get you they would have to take me.

Man runs up: We’re all ready to go. If you tell us we have to give our lives now. We’re ready. I’m pretty sure all my sisters and brothers are with me.

(Shouts of acceptance)

Jones: Someone has tried to keep this thing from happening but I now see it’s the will, it’s the will of a sovereign being that’s happened to us. Now we lay down our lives in protest against what’s being done…did you notice who walked out today? Mostly white people…the white people walks. I’m so grateful for the ones who didn’t….There’s no point to this. We are born before our time. They won’t accept us. And I don’t think we should sit here and take any more time for our children to be endangered…they come after our children…then our children will suffer forever.

RedeemedHippie>>>[Being the good socialist that he was, he knew EXACTLY how to bring division among his people and still have their loyalty. He got them mad at the whites who desired to leave and live, causing a greater allegiance to himself!]

Jim Jones Death Tape (Part 1)

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Those in the media back in the late 70s when this happened, wanted to blame “religion” for this horriffic crime. They can not do that anymore. This was socialism at work. For more information, pick up the book “Raven” by Tim Reiterman.

Cults have fascinated me for many years. From Hitler, to Charles Manson, to Jim Jones–and all those before and after. Even, the one that led me to the Lord. Yes, that is right. It was a cult that led me to the Lord. I was one of the fortunate ones; God saved me from it within a short while after coming to Him. He wasn’t about to let me go to a cult after delivering me out of the occult.  Not everyone is that blessed. I could have easily been one of those who looked upon Jim Jones or Charles Manson as some great one, such as their followers did. I could have easily been led astray into lies and false doctrines as their followers were. But God had such mercy on me. Why? I’m not any better than those who are deceived into thinking someone is some great one. It is simply because God will have mercy on who He will have mercy.

Even though you can see the video above for yourself, I have posted parts of the transcript below to point out the deceptions of this man. It is never too late to come to the truth–unless you drink the kool-aid. No pun intended. There is nothing humorous about the Jim Jones tragedy.

The ONLY way it could have been prevented–was not from government and congressmen getting involved; but from the truth of God being proclaimed. I often wonder how many of these people had Christians in their life that spoke truth to them. Did any of them? And if they had, why did they not listen? It could only be because they were in great deception and would rather believe lies.

The lie that Jim Jones was a god to them. The lie that they could create heaven on earth. The lie that there was no god. All these things are anti-christ. Jim Jones was anti-christ, such as were his followers; unless, they were able to come to the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ before their gruesome death.

Keep in mind when you hear his voice; it is a devil speaking through him. The devil is a liar and the father of all lies.

Parts of transcript:

Jones: How very much I have loved you. How much I have tried my best to give you a good life.

(Applause from the crowd)

RedeemedHippie>>>[He has already set himself up as God, here. Preparing them for loyalty to him. Preparing the people that he will be a martyr. And the poor people love it so.]

Jones: In spite of all that I have tried, a handfull of our people with their lies have made our lives impossible.

RedeemedHippie>>>[He sets the people up as one to believe the lie that they are victims. He is beginning to take away any hope they may have. Also notice he uses the word “I.” Never mind the hundreds who built that place with the sweat of their brow and devotion to him.]

Jones: We are sitting here waiting on a powder keg.

RedeemedHippie>>>[He gives them great cause to fear.]

Jones: It was said by the greatest of prophets,…, no man takes my life from me, I lay my life down.

(Cries from the crowd.)

RedeemedHippie>>>[He is setting himself up as Jesus.]

Jones: But you can’t steal people’s children.

RedeemedHippie>>>[Jones was the one who stole children. Parents were not allowed to raise their own children in his group. So he does what a good socialist does, he turns around his own doings, twisting things to his advantage.]

Jones: You can’t take off with people’s children without expecting a violent reaction. And that’s no so unfamiliar to us either. Even if we were judeo-christian, if we weren’t communists, the world…sufferest violence and the violence will take it by force.

RedeemedHippie>>>[He admits they were not christian. He admits they were communists! He even quotes the Word of God. So if one can merely quote the Bible does that make them a follower of Jesus? No. Satan knows the scriptures very well.]

Jones: If we can’t live in peace. Then let’s die in peace.

(Great shouts and applause)

RedeemedHippie>>>[Those who applauded and shouted just gave more power to the enemy of their soul. I wonder here; how many were thinking it was just another white night and they would soon be released to go back to their shack and allowed to go to bed. I wonder how many did not shout and applause and what they were thinking. Surely, there had to be some that God was revealing himself to, as they were about to die.]

Jones: We have been so betrayed. We have been so terribly betrayed.

RedeemedHippie>>>[He uses the word ‘we” to bring a spirit of camerderie among his followers. He sets them up for more victimhood.]

Jones: If this only worked one day, it was worth while.

(Applause)

RedeemedHippie>>>[No. Not if it was getting ready to take the lives of 1,800 (?) people. No, it is not worth dying for just because it did not work.

He then tells them about what is to take place at the air strip. He is pretending to be aprophet here. He lets on like some great power told him before the fact.]

Jones: Plane is going to come down in the jungle and we had better not have any of our children left when it is over. Cause they’ll parachute in here on us. I’m telling you as plain as I know how to tell you. I’ve never lied to you. Never never lied to you.

Redeemdhippie>>>[He plays on their emotions and loyalty to him. He never lied to them? Jim Jones’s father was Satan. The devil was speaking through him even then, preparing to take as many to hell as he could within the hour!]

Jones: So my opinion is, we be kind to children and we be kind to seniors. Take the potion like they used to take in ancient greece. Step over quietly. Cause we are not committing suicide. It’s a revolutionary act. We can’t go back. They won’t leave us alone.

RedeemedHippie>>>[First he uses the most defensless among them to appear kind and caring; the children and the seniors. He begins to prepare them to die. It is not suicide? Liar! A revolutionary act? Liar! He is binding them together as one with his words. He instills more paranoia in his followers leaving them with no hope. Step over quietly??? I shudder to think of the ones who took the kool-aid believing this, only to be thrown into the arms of devils and demons!] 

Jones: They’ll go back and tell more lies which will mean more congressmen and there’s no way, no way we can survive.

RedeemedHippie:>>>[He takes away more hope–instilling more fear in them. What does God’sWord say? It says, “Perfect love casts out all fear.” Jim Jones had no perfect love in him.]

Jones: Anyone who has a dissenting opinion? Please speak.

(Somene speaks but inaudible)

Jones: You’re going to have an opportunity but if we have any children left, we’re going to have them butchered.

RedeemedHippie>>>[Did he say what I thought? That if there were any children left, “we’re going to have them butchered.” We? As in them? What did any sane parent think at those words?]

(He passes blame)

Jones: The people in San Fransico will not be idle. They’ll not take our death in vain, you know.

Redeemdhippie>>>[Preparing them to be martyrs. I wonder how many were wishing they were in San Fransico?]

Christine Miller, one lone courageous woman stands up– only to be ridiculed at some point: Is it too late for Russia?

He sounds hopeless in telling her it is too late for Russia.

Jones: Do you think I’m gonna deliver them to you all? Not on your life. I’ve lived for all and I’ll die for all.

[Shouts of admiration]

RedeemedHippie>>>[He plays on their loyalty to him by pretending to be loyal to them.]

Jones: I was living on hope for a long time, Christine. You always have been a good agitator and I like agitation because you have to teach two sides on an issue. Two sides to a question. …these people going to make our life worse than a hell. Make the Russians not accept us…We are done in as far as any alternative.]

RedeemedHippie>>>[He plays on Christine Miller’s past loyalty to him. Hoping to still bind her to himself.]

Christine: I feel like we make an airlift to Russia. That’s what I say. I don’t feel nothing is impossible.

Jones: Check Russia and see if they take us, otherwise we die. But for me death is not a fearful thing. It’s living that’s treacherous.

(Shouts and applause)

RedeemedHippie>>>[With his words he has just alienated Christine Miller. As any good follower at that moment would have sided with him.]

Jones: Christine it’s not worth living like this.

Christine Miller: I think there were too few people who left for twelve hundrend people to give their lives.

RedeemedHippie>>>[I can’t but help believe this was one woman who was beginning to see the truth.]

Jones: Do you think Russia is going to want us? Do you think they’re going to want us with all this stigma? We had some value but now we don’t have any value.

Christine Miller: I don’t see it like that. I don’t feel like that. I feel like as long as there is life, there is hope. That’s my faith.

RedeemedHippie>>>[One lone woman; one brave soul.]

Jones: Everybody dies. Someplace that hope runs out becasue everybody dies. I haven’t seen anybody yet that didn’t die. I’ld like to chose my own kind of death for a change. I’m tired of being tormented to hell, that’s what I’m tired of. Tired of it.

(Applause)