A.W. Tozer: Discernment

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I have the following on another post, but have put it here for easier and speedier reading. It bears repeating.

http://www.eternalpath.com/lakeland.html

A. W. Tozer sums it up perfectly in his normal etiquette and precision: “Many tender-minded Christians fear to sin against love by daring to inquire into anything that comes wearing the cloak of Christianity and breathing the name of Jesus. They dare not examine the credentials of the latest prophet to hit their town lest they be guilty of rejecting something which may be of God. They timidly remember how the Pharisees refused to accept Christ when He came, and they do not want to be caught in the same snare, so they either reserve judgment or shut their eyes and accept everything without question. This is supposed to indicate a high degree of spirituality. But in sober fact it indicates no such thing. It may indeed be evidence of the absence of the Holy Spirit. Gullibility is not synonymous with spirituality. Faith is not a mental habit leading its possessor to open his mouth and swallow everything that has about it the color of the supernatural. Faith keeps its heart open to whatever is of God, and rejects everything that is not of God, however wonderful it may be. Try the spirits is a command of the Holy Spirit to the Church. We may sin as certainly by approving the spurious as by rejecting the genuine. And the current habit of refusing to take sides is not the way to avoid the question. To appraise things with a heart of love and then to act on the results is an obligation resting upon every Christian in the world. And the more as we see the day approaching.”

“I actually live about 45 minutes away from Lakeland, FL where Todd Bentley has set up his camp. Though I did not see him personally, I went just yesterday to Ignited Church that he is connected with. I visited a 10 am service that occurs daily, and there were probably 1,000 people there. Keep in mind that I am a worship leader/young adult pastor at a large non-denominational church, and consider myself a charismatic with a seatbelt on. I do believe in the spiritual gifts, including tongues, prophecy (which I have), and miracles or healing. I prayed to God to let me have an open mind, and for His Holy Spirit to guide me in worship and also in discernment. As I entered the lobby/ cafe area I noticed something right away: No one greeted me and there were no crosses or anything that made me feel like I was at a Christian church. As I walked into the main worship area (that had no hint of anything Christian) the music had just begun and was very hypnotic, building up with chants in tongues by the worship leader and his other vocalists. Right away I felt like I was at a Hindu, Buddhist, or New Age meeting. It was creepy to say the least. Again I prayed to God to help me have an open mind, but I was very distracted by people speaking in a deluge of tongues, and dancing around through the rows of seats. The music went on for about an hour, with the worship leader laughing and jerking uncontrollably, and chanting in tongues between singing and playing a piano. A man then came on stage to introduce a prophetess who was to bring a message from God, a prophecy that she had been given for the church. She immediately began by speaking in tongues, and calling down the glory of God into the room. By this time the congregation had been worked into a frenzy from an hour of hypnotic music and babbling tongues, and was crying out and shaking, and laughing, and crying, and screaming, and dancing, it was all going crazy at once. Again I tried to pray and ask God to help me have an open mind and discernment. It was tough to hear God, to feel God through all the chaos…but then the Spirit quickened a word to me. He reminded me of what Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 14 about orderly worship. It was then that I left that “church” building as quickly as possible…”
Pastor Mike Kendall ~ The Gathering Quote used by permission for eternalpath.com.

“Eternal Path, thank you for the honest and correct discernment about the Lakeland Revival. I know all of these people you have mentioned and you are very correct. I laid hands on Baptist pastors Wes and Stacy Campbell for the Baptism of the Holy Spirit of which they and their leadership received. Shortly after, they joined a Vineyard church where they began to get involved in all the stuff they are currently into. I have watched these people become more and more deceived and have humbly approached them about it. They want nothing to do with me anymore. Todd was a baby Christian with a testimony when he went into full time ministry. After being touched by Todd and Bob Jones, young people have become oppressed by demon spirits which torment them with intense fear. I have had to pray over and lay hands on a number young people in spiritual bondage. It required deliverance of their minds and a healing of their souls that had been opened up to the evil spiritual realm. I have preached against these antics for years now and have endured much persecution. Bob Jones is said to astral travel into women’s closed rooms when they are undressing. I have had several come to me with that traumatic experience. I could go on and on, but I just want to say “Thank You” for speaking truth and know that you are in my prayers. Some of these people are dangerous, they are known to sending evil curses against those who oppose them, Bob Jones in particular. He has mentored Todd and most of the others also. They became spiritually damaged after traveling with him. Stick to your message and let’s pray that God will bring a true revival of Jesus, the cross, holiness, and repentance to the USA. Thank you for your comments about William Branham. I always discerned his gifts as false, coming from familiar spirits and healing demons. I am 70 years old and have watched this movement grow and grow over the last 40 years. You have been raised up by God for such a time as this. For so long, I did not hear a voice but mine in opposition to this deception, now I am hearing many and you are one. Thank You!”
Rev. Jesse Starr ~ Dallas, Texas Letter used by permission for eternalpath.com.

Pastor Jon Speed:

As of August 2008, the Canadian preacher announced the end of his visits to Lakeland, he told his staff that his marriage is ending. Without blaming the pace of the revival for Bentley’s personal problems, his board released a public statement saying that he and his wife, Shonnah, are separating. The news shocked Bentley’s adoring fans and saddened those who have questioned his credibility since the Lakeland movement erupted in early April 2008. One can only pray that Bentley responds humbly to a process of stepping out of ministry for a season of rehabilitation.

We are weathering an unprecedented season of moral failure and spiritual compromise in our nation today. Those in they way of discerning faith still believe that God desires to visit our nation in supernatural power. We know He wants to heal multitudes, and we must continue to pray for a healing revival to sweep across the United States. But we must contend for the genuine, not an imitation. True revival will be accompanied by brokenness, humility, reverence and repentance—not the arrogance, showmanship and empty hype that often was on display in Lakeland. Let’s pray that God will turn this embarrassing debacle into an opportunity for miraculous restoration.

“Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.” Psalm 119:104

“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.” 1 John 4:1

“Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.” Matthew 7:15

“At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible. See, I have told you ahead of time.” Matthew 24:23-25

“For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.” Jude 1:4

“But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons.” 1 Timothy 4:1

“But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them bringing swift destruction upon themselves. Many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned; and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.” 2 Peter 2:1-3

“I know that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; and from among your own selves men will arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after them.” Acts 20:29-30

“See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ. Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you for the prize. Such a person goes into great detail about what he has seen, and his unspiritual mind puffs him up with idle notions. He has lost connection with the Head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow.” Colossians 2:8, 18-19

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Aping the Practices of Pagan Spirituality

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Please don’t anyone tell me, “Satan has a counterfeit for everything God does” in order to excuse this behavior. Satan very well may have a counterfeit but basically he perverts everything holy and good. So Stacey Campbell shaking her head, hissing like a snake and speaking a prophecy that I found more Luciferic than Godly, only tells me she is possessed not by the Holy Spirit, but by another.

According to today’s typical church standards, the more stupid you behave, the more of the Holy Spirit you have. THIS is another gospel and another spirit. It is not one of God!

Any of us can look spiritual today if we just violently shake our heads, fall on the floor and look like we are having a seizure, bark like dogs, crow like roosters, roar like lions, laugh like a hyena, fall like a slobbering drunk, space out on a make believe joint, slurring our words, etc. ALL THESE THINGS Jesus would have cast out a person but today the Whore calls it the Holy Ghost! Such blasphmey and mockery to the Holy Spirit! And few dare to test it because they have been brain washed into believing they must not question?!  But the Bride of Christ does know the difference.

Church, greater delusions come. If we can not discern now the holy from the profane, what will we do when greater delusions come? Trust our leaders and teachers of such things to discern for us? Do any of us dare to let another rule over us in such a way that we would not test something BY and THROUGH and WITH the Word of God?

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Written on the sidebar: The first clip is of a well-known Christian speaker, Stacey Campbell. The rest of the following clips show automatic yogic movements induced by Kundalini power, which reminds me exactly of what I have seen in the kinds of churches I’ve gone to all my life. Except for the people standing on their heads (LoL), I don’t see much of a difference between the two, do you?

WHY YOU SHOULD STAY AWAY FROM YOGA

We are bombarded by messages of yoga’s peaceful and healthful benefits, but what we don’t hear, specifically in the United States, is the true origins of this type of lifestyle.

These are postures that are offered to the 330 million Hindu gods. Yoga postures really are; they are offerings to the gods. If you do these postures and you do this breathing technique and this meditation, then you will be accepted by a god, little “g.” That’s the real danger.

In India, people are often seen in the streets doing yoga poses in front of the statues of the gods.

Romans 12:1-2 says we are to offer our bodies as a living sacrifice to God. Here they are doing something very similar with these postures to their 330 million gods, and it is scary. So we abstain from things offered to idols — Acts 15:29.

In yoga they do what they call pranayama breathing. Prana is the Hindu word for life force, the same concept as the word chi in some martial arts. Yoga breathing attempts to manipulate that life energy. That is a dangerous thing, because I think that we are coming out from under the blood of Jesus when we do stuff like that, and we are no match for the enemy in those areas. I think of what Paul said in Ephesians 2:2, that Satan is the prince of the power of the air. We are not talking about oxygen.

A third area of concern in yoga is the concept of emptying the mind, which is contradictory to what Christianity teaches. The Bible says “We are transformed by the renewing of our minds, not the emptying.”

Along with emptying the mind, yoga guides people into astral travel, which is where people actually leave their bodies. As a Christian with the Holy Spirit in there, we are not going to be possessed, I don’t think. But one could easily be oppressed.

Clearly, with this understanding of yoga, Christians should think twice before heading to the local gym for a yoga class. But if you are a Christian who thinks it’s all right to attend yoga classes because you think you are strong enough not to fall prey to the spiritual deception that’s being taught and you enjoy the physical benefits, in all seriousness please consider a younger believer or weaker Christian who is watching your lifestyle. If you go to a yoga class, chances are they might be inspired to go also, and they could fall completely off track in their walk with God.

The ‘Christian Yoga’ Controversy

Can yoga and its religious roots be separated? Some who have been concerned about Eastern influences of yoga have looked to hatha yoga for answers, since hatha yoga is supposed to simply be the flexibility exercises without the spiritual influences. Yoga and Hinduism are inextricably linked, and beyond that, there can be no such thing as Christian yoga.

Christian yoga is an oxymoron. It is like saying someone is a Christian Buddhist or a Christian Hindu. What some people are doing is that they are trying to make yoga Christian. Even Hindus are saying that you cannot do that.

Stacey Campbell, head shaking “prophetess.”

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I have a few things against you, because you suffered that woman Jezebel, which calls herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed to idols. And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. Behold I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. Revelation 2:20-22 (Video below)

Somebody should make this woman sit down. This is a real example of Jezebel at work within the church. All those men on that stage with her and not one had the guts to make her sit down. Or better yet, call her out as a false prophetess. But they do not because it is people like I who are being called the Jezebel. What hypocrisy in this movement! What lying abominable apostates they all are!

I would ask when you read her words below, that if you look upon her words as not coming from God, then from who? It can either be of herself or the enemy. I say the devil makes himself known very well through this woman. Listen carefully to what she says.

A transcript of her words: “And the spirit came on me and said, “Tod because you have asked like very few men on the face of the earth have asked, to see my glory I will begin a revival through you.”

I would have to ask, “Ok Tod, what exactly did you ask? Was it about you and having power? Or was it truly about lives being changed through the Spirit and the Word of God? We already know that was not the case because of the many abominations you brought all through this “revival.”

“That will pass beyond gifts into the very heart that moves god. To release gifts to his children.”

What about repentance? What about changed lives? What about holiness?

“And Jesus filled with compassion healed the sick and Jesus filled with forgiveness said he who is without sin cast the first stone. And Jesus filled with justice and truth threw over tables and took out whips and cleansed the temple of God.”

Yes, Jesus did those things and Satan was there to see it happen. This is a subtle mockery.

It is also a very subtle warning from the enemy not to judge their deeds.

“And Tod I have chosen you because of your background. Because of your background, because of your background. To release my nature when you release my gifts.”

This is it, church. This is the very mouth of Satan speaking through this woman. As those with any discernment from the beginning knew this was not of the One True God, then who is speaking? Satan.
I would paraphrase it as such: Satan says, “Tod, because of your back ground in the occult, because you have not repented, because you love lies greater than the truth, because you desire to be great an not follow the One True God, I have chosen you to release my lying perverse nature; lying signs and wonders that will fool the simple because they do not love the truth, but would rather follow my lies. And the gifts I bring are perverse images of the real Jesus. I will make him look like a hard taskmaster, I will make him look as if He has no true mercy as you kick the sick and as you abuse those who come looking for the real Jesus. They are fools and I delight in taking advantage of the weak, forsaken and the lazy who have not tested things. I delight in showing the world my trickery and cunning ability. I have been so good at it since the beginning of time. And now Tod, now Tod I have you to release my gifts. My gifts of more lies and delusions. More filth and corruption to the Bride of Christ. Come lay with me, Tod. Drink of my fornication and I will raise you up among men and there will be none like you!”

“To become a living epistle like the Word that became flesh.”

Is she saying like Jesus? What an abomination! What a mockery of the One True Jesus!

This is Satan speaking!

“I will use you to father a movement that operates in such revival power that is coming out of the very nature and the heart of God.”

LIAR! What? One that kicks sick people in the stomach? One that tells lies and mocks and blasphemes the true Jesus?!

“And you will teach people how to behold god until they are transformed from glory to glory from compassion to mercy to loving kindness to truth to justice to forgiveness.”

LIAR! Satan wants people to behold HIS glory and power. This transformation thing is occultic and new age, preparing the way for a greater delusion and perhaps anti-christ.

Then she bends down over him and lays her hand on his stomach. Which is kind of perverse in my opinion. Too much closeness here and more releasing of the kundalini spirit at work.

“And a whole generation will move in such signs and wonders and power…”

I can almost see Satan salivating here.

“… but everyone will give glory to god.”

LIAR! No, people will be worshipping an image of Jesus you apostates have created!

“I feel like Tod that when you were 12 years old and I just graduated from Baptist seminary The holy spirit fell on me and he started to speak to me over and over and over again about a generation that would come upon the earth.”

This generation is not of God. If you do not believe me, just do a search on The New Mystics with John Crowder. The generation being brought up has no respect for the pure unadulterated Word of God. They are being equipped for battle against the true saints of God.

“That would do signs and wonders and change society and society would not change them.”

I would have to ask, signs and wonders for what purpose? To get people to believe in God? They have the Word. But rather, is it not, to get the simple to unknowingly follow Satan?

“And you are the first fruits of that generation of nation changers that will release the glory of god and all it’s fullness.”

Tod, the first fruits? Now that is scary. Imagine a whole generations of liars, heretics and apostates. Am I the only one looking forward to the second coming of Christ?

“We give you the keys to eastern Europe. Especially the poor and the rejected, the gypsies. and the Lord says because you have loved his personal presence, there are two annointings that are released on his presence and I just want to release those two annointings on you from the lord. By the way, the lord says you’re a well pleasing son. The father, abba said that to you personally. The first annointing is the pleasure of the Lord.”

He lays his hand on Tod’s stomache and begins to quote scripture that is in regard to Jesus: “Surely he has born our grief. sickness, weakness and carried our sorrow unto pain… you were considered stricken and afflicted by God. but He was bruised for our ininquities…and god is releasing his pleasure of what he did upon to jesus unto you, Tod…2nd annointing he wants to give you is, because you have loved righteousness and delighted in integrity and virtue and uprightness in heart in thought and action and you have hated unjustice and iniquity…the lord has annointed you.”

Nope, can not say God was in this at all!

It bears repeating: Tod, the first fruits? Now that is scary. Imagine a whole generations of liars, heretics and apostates. Am I the only one looking forward to the second coming of Christ?