An example of a self-deluded false prophecy

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The following off face book, is an offspring of Steve Fletcher, the man who PPSimmons endorsed by giving him a platform on his face book page a few months back. This is what happens when people are not tested within the light of God’s Word. They get to create their own doctrine, usually revolving around self. Which the root is pride. Making themselves greater than God’s Word. Emphasis are mine:

First I declare Comet Ison is the sign of the coming of the Son of Man spoken of in Matthew 24:29. The Rapture of the Church will happen soon after it makes it’s grand appearance after the 28th of this month. (And if not, will this man admit he was wrong?) The Lord has given me (me,me,me… I always cringe when I hear this) the most beautiful gift of confirming it which could only have been revealed over the course of my life. I was just telling my grandma this the day before I discovered this beautiful gifts from our Lord; The following is suppose to be THE criteria that his words are true? That Matthew is my favorite book in the Bible and I think the Lord is guiding me to it. I told her it was no coincidence my middle name is Matthew and that’s what my family has called me since childhood. The passage the Lord has spoken to me about Ison being the sign of the Son of Man is in Matthew 24:29. Well my friends I turned 29 on Nov 1. This was set up before the ages and was perfectly timed by our Lord, as usual, to discover now. And it does not stop there. If we turn to Luke 11:29 you will find the passage that speaks of the sign of Jonah. In case you missed that I turned 29 on the 11th month this year. WOW! He’s actually basing his revelations on his birthday?! I guess that means, because I am 57 years old, I can go through the Bible and look for all the :57 scriptures and they will speak personally for me? Or how about all the ones I missed over the course of my lifetime? Would have loved to know what hidden things of God there was for me was when I turned 15 or 21 or 30. Oh well, I’ll be 60 in three years. Maybe that will be a good time to check it out. What really makes this spectacular is we have received the sign of Jonah and the 40 day warning and it falls on Nov 29 the day after Ison is at its brightest in our sky. i will post a link that describes what the sign of Jonah is and how we received this magnificent sign in the comments. No, I am not saying the Rapture will happen on the 29th just to be clear.
Ok, now I would like to go into deeper waters here. A lot of things about this didn’t make sense to me because of where I thought we were on the timeline of the Tribulation Period. I thought the Tribulation Period had not yet begun. Well my friends I could not have been more wrong. (I think he is still wrong. The Bible speaks of the Tribulation being so great, that everything that we have known throughout history, will look like a pic-nic compared to what those days should be) we We are already halfway through it and the final three and a half years of judgement is about to start right after the Rapture. The 7 year peace treaty was signed by the AC himself which is Obama. Really? When? And I believe there is so much more about THE anti-christ this guy is ignoring of which as of now, obama falls short. The Bible said the AC would be revealed when this happens and he was. What Christians do not understand is that this can only be revealed by the grace of God through the Holy Spirit. You will only see and understand this if He allows you to and blesses you with this knowledge. Whenever you hear that, know that you are being set up. Want to be seen as spiritual? Then you too, must follow the words of the prophet. If your still holding on to your own pride and arrogance you can not see, He will not let you. You are led to believe if you are taking the time to test this deluded man’s words, it is YOUR pride, when in fact, it is HIS very deluded pride speaking. Listen to the Holy Spirit. Blah blah blah, what he’s really saying is “listen to me.” Because a real Berean, one who tests all things, would be testing him at this point, if they haven’t by now.

He goes on, but I stop here…….. All credit of these Revelations go to our Creator and Lord and Savior. These are not things I came to understand by my own intellect, but with what our Lord and Savior has blessed me with to see and understand. Once again, we are to believe that just because he says, we are to believe.

Someone questioned him either here or on another thread. His response: I thought I explained all of that in great detail, but not everyone is suppose to get it. Once again, only the enlightened ones will get it. Enlightened being those who like sheeple will hang on to his every word.

The main point I want to get across to everyone is to TEST everything in the light of God’s Word. Do NOT let anyone make you feel dumb, stupid, unteachable, unsubmissive, rebellious, etc. just because you dare to question.  If something does not feel quite right to you, step back from it and take the time to test it. What happens when you have followed something for so long and then someone tells you to drink the Kool-Aid? What then?

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I guess Jesus forgot to mention this when warning of false prophets?

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that your name must add up to 888 in order to be a prophet. I guess Jesus forgot to tell us that?

Apparently to this guy, Steve Fletcher:

http://2fletchdr222.blogspot.mx/2013/11/what-is-steve-fletchers-gematria-number.html Jesus forgot to  tell us about the number 888. John must have forgotten to bring that out in the book of Revelation, as well. The link is NOT one which I endorse in anyway.

Be cautious, very cautious anytime you hear self-induced prophets say this kind of thing: Steve Fletcher Over the last months I have received many Prophetic Revelations from the Lord Jesus Christ. Many have a hard time understanding all that I have been sharing, and things are happening now so very fast. (meaning: if you don’t grasp his nonsense, it’s because you are not as enlightened as Fletcher and you better get on that bandwagon) But there is one thing that has been central to everything else I have received, and it is based on this Revelation that I was given…

the Keys to the Book of Daniel…

a Book Sealed until the Time of the End.

STEVE FLETCHER = BIBLICAL PROPHET = 888

Is this a coincidence? Could be… we will soon know.

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This is the very same guy that PPSimmons (Carl Gallups) was semi-endorsing on his facebook page back in June 2013. I was shocked when I saw that PPSimons was giving this guy an opportunity to speak his nonsense of date setting and that the rapture was going to happen within a few weeks. I, along with some others voiced our concerns only to be treated with a condescending tone,  mocked and ridiculed by PPSimmons in a passive/aggressive manner. PPSimmons has since removed Steve Fletcher’s nonsense from his timeline.

In the meantime, Steve has managed to come up with all kinds of scenarios and prophecies. All based on a comet. Remember Heaven’s Gate?

CNN:

The following is a conversation between Steve Fletcher and a woman (who I do not know) that took place some months ago. She was trying to set him straight. He would not have it.  

http://www.facebook.com/notes/terri-wonder/please-read-possible-false-teaching-
warning/10200933928731622

One of his answers to her: 

wait and see. I am human and make mistakes. When I am wrong i ask forgiveness and move on.

Well, the date came and went. He was wrong. One would think he would STOP, but he hasn’t. He has moved on and STILL is finding ways to predict and verify he is a true prophet. Sadly, many people are hanging onto his every word. The danger in this is that if people have their faith based upon a self-proclaimed prophet and his worthless words, they will be greatly disappointed. And what if the likes of a Fletcher tells them all that God said they must drink the Kool-Aid at some point? 

Steve, in the old days, you would have been stoned for being a false prophet.

More Tod Bently lies

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It’s been a while since I put anything up on this imposter. Thought now was as good time as any.

Looks like even Rick Joyner is getting tired of listening to the bull dung. Oh well, too bad, too sad. Joyner helped bring about this heretic. Enjoy, Rick.

If gold falls in the meeting, do they still take up a collection? Just saying.

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An answer to a Choo Thomas Defender

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I do not know why people keep leaving their comments in defense of Choo Thomas. I have said over and over, I will not allow it and have deleted dozens if not hundreds of comments from those who ignore what has already been exposed here, not only through this blog, but the many Christians who leave their own comments of discernment.  However, I keep receiving them and I keep deleting them. As I have said, there is enough evidence to show she is wrong, and that either she was delusional or a liar.

I am amazed at those who call themselves Christian who are so afraid to test anything, lest they “touch God’s anointed” . It is highly superstitious and breeds fear. You may as well carry a rabbit’s foot with you. The following is one comment that I will address because there are many Christians out there who believe that if someone calls themselves a prophet, it must make them one. But no.

i believe strongly n cho nam’s heaven is so real because when i read it my spiritual eyes opened and i saw heaven myself. All what she described i saw personally i am also a prophet. She is an end time prophet. Where disobedient believers will go the desert is symbolic of hell. Dont misunderstand her please. Jesus said every little title of the law must be fulfilled. He didnt come to abolish the law. Tithing is part of it. Continue to tithe. Where else do you expect pastors to feed their families?

This person said she believes because her “spiritual eyes opened”. To which, I would ask, how does she know? What is the one thing she uses as her plumb line to measure if something is true or not? A feel good feeling, goose bumps, etc.? She wants us to just take her word for it when she says she saw heaven, also, after all, her spiritual eyes opened. She calls herself a prophet, which in her mind, puts her on the same level with Choo Thomas. Therefore, she assumes that will be cause enough for anyone else to believe she is a prophet.

My answer to the question of how pastors are to feed their families: The same as everybody else. By working. By not depending upon the hard earned income of their sheep. Paul was a tent maker and made himself no burden. Tithes were never meant to go to the pastor. If you want to bless someone financially, that is your right. But you are not obligated. Anyone who makes you feel you are, is a lying thieve or ignorant. https://redeemedhippiesplace.wordpress.com/2011/07/26/is-it-biblical-to-tithe/

She said, “He didnt come to abolish the law. Tithing is part of it.” Too which I say, the following shows exactly what is the fulfillment of the law: 

For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not bear false witness,” “You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. — Romans 13:9-11 —

No mention of tithing there.

And this:

But when the Pharisees heard that He had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together. Then one of them, a lawyer, asked Him a question, testing Him, and saying, “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?”

Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.” — Matthew 22:34-40 —

No mention of tithing there, either. Seems to me, love is the most important thing.

I close with this:

If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,

And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;

Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the Lord your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

Ye shall walk after the Lord your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him. — Deuteronomy 13:1-4 —

Choo Thomas has died

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I will not put the following article up. It suggests she went to heaven. I can not say she has and neither can anyone else. Choo Thomas taught doctrines of demons. She either was delusional, led by deceiving spirits or an out right liar. God knows.

I’ll use this time to address all of the books being sold about heaven now days. Everybody has an experience, everybody has something to say. I believe none of it. Not when Paul said he saw things that were unspeakable, concerning his visit to the heavenlies.  But now days, if somebody’s kid has surgery or about dies or whatever, the first thing that happens? The parent wants to write a book about it, making thousands of dollars off the stories the child tells. Anybody can make up a story and sell it to the masses. There are millions of gullible people out there who would buy anything. These stories do not line up with the Bible, nor with the Jesus of the Bible. Over the years, I’ve read enough of them to know. I won’t waste my time trying to defend my position. It is what it is. But if you want to know what heaven is like, you can find it in the Bible.

Information on the death of Choo Thomas is here:

http://www.charismanews.com/us/39358-heaven-is-so-real-author-choo-thomas-passes-away

Pat Robertson’s Bad Advice to women whose husbands cheat

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Pat Robertson needs to retire…from being minister, teacher, prophet, preacher. Whatever titles he goes by. He’s been proven an apostate on many levels, now this — horrible marriage counseling to a woman whose husband has cheated on her.

I am dumbfounded by anyone who call themself Christian who gives this man any kind of credibilty.

I’m not a women’s libber, by any means. Yet, it is easy to see this man is such a …. dare I use the word … what the heck, yes, I’ll say it — he is a chauvenist. There were some things to consider here that Robertson overlooked.

“Stop talking about the cheating.”

From the very beginning he assumes instead of taking the time to figure out where the woman is coming from. How does he even know she is talking about it? Some women do not express everything going on in their hearts.

“He cheated on you, well, he’s a man.” That gives me the impression that just because he is a man she should just overlook it.

He goes on to tell her to focus on what is good about her husband in the first place. He even says is he handsome as if that alone is a quality worthy of putting up with in adultery. Does the husband provide food, shelter, etc? A total psycho could offer that much to a woman. Many women have been trapped by feeling completely dependent upon a man to supply her needs, having to take a man’s abuse in order to survive!

Does he take the kids to sporting events. Do you have a happy family? Obviously not, Pat, if the wife has cause to be suspicious of her husband’s activities! “Fall in love with him all over again.” “Reach out and touch him. Touch his face, hold his hand, look in to his eyes. Talk to him…” If the man has not repented, if he is not sorry, what woman in her right man would want to fall in love with that?!

Then he goes off on some vague understanding he has of what the situation was involving a stripper. “Give him honor instead of worrying about it.” I suspect even Robertson thinks his advice is a bunch of bull as his body language, his facial expressions of looking down are a result of either not treating this serious giving it the attention it needs, or he just plain does not believe what he himself is saying.

But here is the clencher: “Also, like it or not, males have a tendency to wander a little bit.”

SO? And his point is? That it’s the norm and women ought to just suck it up and deal with it? That’s the impression I get. For the record, not ALL males wander. A lot of men are decent who would not even give it a thought. “Like it or not”? Yeah, that pretty much means suck it up, ladies!

“And what you want to do is to make the home so wonderful, that he doesn’t want to wander.”

Oh puleeeease. Tell that to the women who have made their homes an abode for their husbands and their men still are skunks.

Then he goes on to tell her to think of the tempations out there. He ends it with this cute little nothing:

“Thank God you live in America and good things are happening.”

Gee, that ought to make everyone of us just have the warm fuzzies all over. In other words, he is saying, don’t complain.

What a crock. What a complete crock of horse dung.

I have never had to deal with a cheating husband. So, I may not have the right to say what my advice would be to women whose husbands are cheating on them, but I will say what is on my heart: has he shown signs of true sorrow and repentence, brokeness for what he has done — not only before you, but towards God — who he had to hurt first, before he hurt you? Is he the one trying to make amends? And if so, are you able to see it? Can you discern his heart? It is just as important to be aware of true repentence as it is infidility.

If he is showing you true repentence, then meet him there. He will understand that trust is something he will have to re-earn and he should have no problem with that. If he has a problem with it, then too bad for him. As for you, ask God to show you this man through HIS (God’s) eyes. Everything about him. Ask that nothing be unreaveled to you, that God would show you what it is HE wants you to see and know. 

If he has not repented and you have been praying, and he still wants to be a cheating little weasle, then ask God how long you are to put up with it. Let’s face it… for one thing, there are sexual diseases out there now, that no one should have to be subjected to. Even the forgivness of a cheating husband would not allow me to risk getting a sexually transmitted disease. That’s just my opinion.  

Back to Pat Robertson. Still not convinced he’s a chauvenist with narrow minded views of women? Then look at this:

https://redeemedhippiesplace.wordpress.com/2013/05/25/what-is-pat-robertson-endorsing-here/

Seems like all the responsibility rests upon the woman who was the victim of adultery. Sorry, but when your spouse or anyone for that matter messes up, it is up to the guilty to gain the trust that was lost.

WeAreTheSavageNation:

What is Pat Robertson endorsing here?

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A man calls in and says his wife does not respect him, etc. Robertson’s very first take on it:

“Well you could become a Muslim and you could beat her.”

To even joke about such a thing — if he was joking in the first place — is not funny. Nor should it even be insinuated from the lips of a man who calls himself a follower of Jesus Christ.

Without knowing any details, Robertson goes on:

“This man’s gotta stand up to her, he can’t let her get away with this stuff.”

“I don’t think we condone wife beating these days, but something’s got to be done to her…”

There are always two sides to every story. My first question would be what is it you do that ticks your wife off so bad? Not that she automatically would have a right to behave a certain way. But there is more going on there than the husband was willing to share. PR did not even address this possibility.

Notice how PR said, something’s got to be done to her. This implies punishment. Not with her, which would be a form of an act of working together, of unity. But to her. Her also implying the woman is completely at fault when her side of the story has not been heard.

Female host ask why the woman would not want to talk about the problems. This in my opinion is a start to real communication. Why would the woman not want to talk to her husband, why does she threaten him? Does she have a possible medical problem, is she a total wack job or is she a woman trying to defend herself from an abusive tyrannical husband? Robertson does not even care to address these possible issues. Instead he assumes:

“She is just totally, uh, she’s rebellious. Chances are she was rebellious with her father. She was a rebellious child.”

Pat knows absolutely nothing about the woman in question. Yet, he assumes. For all we know, the woman may have grown up in an abusive home with an abusive father.

She doesn’t want to submit to any authority.

Once again, he assumes. What is the woman’s husband like? Is he a man of God led by the Spirit of God, a man who loves his wife like Christ loves the Church? Or is he a control freak? Is he abusive?

And she probably had temper tantrums when she was a kid and… you know the little girl, ‘I hate you, I hate you’ and she wants to slap her father.

Again he assumes. He assumes she had temper tantrums. Some children are not allowed to even show certain emotions. Anger may be one. Any tantrums they may have, may show much later in life. In spite of what people would like to thing is the every day norm, some fathers are not always nice to their little girls, and yes there may be times when a child may want to slap a parent, IF there is abuse going on.  

Well, that’s the same kind of thing. She’s transfered the father now…that’s the problem, she does not understand authority. When she was growing up, nobody made her behave and now you’ve got a 13 year old in a 30 year old body and she is acting like a child.

He assumes too much and he knows nothing. It could have been she grew up in a home where discipline went beyond the norm, where authority was not something she could trust. 

What do you do with that? You can’t divorce her according to the scripture… so I say move to saudi arabia.”

My dogs — if possible — are more qualified to offer marriage counseling than Pat Robertson!

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